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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:25 am 
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It's certainly something to consider; particularly if one is spending longer than a week-end in Whoreland. Policies are relative cheap and can be pretty much tailored to your needs. If you're the "adventure tourist" (zip lines, ATV, etc.), make certain to select the rider for such activities. Really, do you want to risk your self on the CR medical system? I don't want to come off as a jingoist.....but give me a break. For a few bucks you can get "stabalized" and have your ass med ambulanced back to the hospital of your choice. There are idiots in San Jose riding around on 125cc dirt bikes that'll strike out at you with poles and wands; knock your ass silly; take your stuff and then beat ya up just for the fun of it. I shiit you not. (Typically, when purchasing airline tickets on line one is offerred a limp wristed policy. Be forewarned.

Here is some data.

Fellow poster Puravidatransport provides a most excellent link: http://www.independenttraveler.com/trav ... -insurance as well as http://www.squaremouth.com/travel-insur ... ?aid=20072 all located at this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41072&p=467509#p467509

The joint at http://www.travelguard.com/travelinsura ... edical.asp offers short term policies which also cover trip interruption; baggage delays, blah, blah, blah. In fact, they actually honored a claim I filed on a busted iPod (it got dropped by a dope and the hard drive failed.....TravelGuard paid to have the hard drive replaced as it is considered a piece of luggage!).

Too, outfits like http://www.travelguard.com/travelinsura ... edical.asp offer a far more comprehensive coverage than the jive sold by the airlines just as you are purchasing/paying for your ticket. Far more cost effective and inclusive than the junk the airlines market.

To be med jetted back to the USA ain't cheap and one needs to take care of business BEFORE stuff happens. Most of these policies will require that the doctor in the country you're in state you need to be sent back to the USA. Right. Uh huh. Like a CR doctor is gonna admit inferiority....so you gots to have stuff set up and in place to fix that non-sense. Too, for a few extra bucks YOU pick where you're gonna be flown to. I don't want to be flown back to where I'm from! The hospital here'll kill you faster than the Caja! My stuff is all arranged such that I'll be flown to Mayo in Rochester, MN. The record is all established; admission is pre-authorized; and even if unconscious the orders are set in stone.

On one flight to SJO, I was sitting next to two doctors who were unaware of blood transfusion pumps. "Pumps? We just rely on the gravity method for blood transfusions." :shock:

PS: Bear in mind most, if not all of these policies run SECONDARY to your primary health insurance UNLESS you purchase the travel policy as the PRIMARY....costs a bit more, but big deal......

http://www.tilloglobe.com/ is a web site that MAY suite the needs of both perpetual tourists; frequent visitors; residents; etc. check it out http://www.tilloglobe.com/short_term.php is for short term trips


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Shopping for International Medical Insurance and Air Ambulance?

Important Issues to Consider and Questions to Ask - June 2012

Reinsurance - make sure the proposed international insurance products are underwritten by a strong re-insurer, this is very important ( Lloyd’s of London, Sirus, ACE, etc). Re-Insurers often audit corresponding companies who sell their products. Also, a strong re-insurer should have strict guidelines in place related to Underwriting, Claim Reimbursement, Customer Service, Annual Renewals,

Pre-existing Conditions and Product Design.

Annual Renewals - make sure the international insurance plan that you are considering guarantees an annual renewal each year. Also, make sure that you are not penalized too harshly for poor claim experience. A strong insurance company pools its members by using “age-banded” rating and does not base the annual renewal rate solely on one’s claim experience for the year. This is one of the most important issues related to annual renewals. Many international carriers weigh in a member’s annual claims experience over many other factors. Also, make sure that the international carrier’s international pool of members does not include people who live in the USA for more than 6 months out of any year (may vary). This drives up the rates big time.

Claims Reimbursement - make sure that a reimbursement check can be cut and mailed out within 2-6 weeks after a claim filing, and that the member is not penalized with miscalculated exchange rates. DHL or UPS are the preferred carriers for international mailing. On many occasions, monies can be wired to a foreign bank account or directly to a hospital.

Direct Payment & Wire Transfers - make sure that the international carrier can pay via “direct wire” or “guarantee of payment” for costly or expensive procedures. Many carriers require the member to pay for large medical expenses upfront; this is not good, especially for care in the USA. A quality international broker and carrier can get on the phone and make things happen and help you with a direct pay to a hospital or provider. You need to deal organizations who will talk over the telephone or in person, as opposed to relying on faxes or e-mails with no or limited follow up. Please note that there are hospitals, clinics and providers abroad which simply do not accept insurance and will require payment ahead of time by a patient. It is good to have a credit card when you travel in case of an emergency.

5. Brokers - make sure your international broker or consultant has an insurance license. Many brokers outside of the USA do not have licenses and many international carriers do not require it. Also, make sure that your broker or consultant has experience in international benefits. International insurance companies often market to domestic brokers who mainly sell in the USA, and dabble in international, as prospects pop-up on their radar screens. My company, Offshore Health Benefits LTD, has been thriving for 10 years, adding new clients each year. Also, we pride ourselves with a very high annual client retention rate. Experience in international benefit planning is everything, especially in a time of crises. Approximately, 60% of our business comes from client referrals.

Brokers Fees - make sure your broker or agent is not embedding extra commissions into your rates or charging processing fees. Some brokers add hidden fees and do not mention this to prospective customers. The international carriers pay out commission percentages based on the carrier’s advertised book and annual renewal rates and volume. You should never pay more than the published book rate during your first year of coverage. Many book rates are available on the internet. Beware of “application” fees, it is not necessary to pay these.

Medical Air Evacuation and Assistance - make sure that your prospective international carrier has a strong relationship with their Medical Air Evacuation and Assistance partner. Many carriers contract this service out and do not have a solid communication system in place, this is very important. Handling a crises situation correctly and in a timely manner can mean the difference between life and death in some serious situations.

Broker Communication - make sure your international broker or consultant can be reached 365 days a year. All of our clients have our company cellular telephone number and we welcome calls 24-7, and 365 days a year. I personally have dealt with many life threatening emergencies in since 2002. Many brokers take days to respond, and some cases, unfortunately, simply do not respond after a sale has been made. This is unacceptable.

Coverage in the USA - make sure that the international carrier’s PPO (preferred provider organization) partner in the USA honors the member’s insurance card at the time of admission or appointment, and has a direct billing relationship. Also, make sure that carrier has provider internet search capabilities that are updated monthly for the members. Members should be free to go to any “western trained” provider of your liking outside of the USA. Many PPO networks offered by international insurance companies in the USA are limited, very limited. Check to see if your current domestic doctor or hospital is in the network prior to joining. If your USA provider is not in the network, ask to see what it would take to have the provider or hospital added. You may consider going out of network, if this is the case, check to see what percentage of the medical visit would be covered. You may also consider changing your provider in the USA. A few international carriers allow the members to “opt out of coverage” and save 20-50% off annual visits; this is good situation for expatriates who have national coverage in their home country or Medicare in the USA. Not every member needs access to medical care in the USA. Don’t waist your annual premium on unnecessary benefits. If you are not from the USA, you may want to “opt” of coverage in the USA.

Annual Deductible and Co-payments - make sure that the international carrier is not imposing a higher deductible for care in the USA. Many international insurance companies out of Latin America and Europe increase deductibles for care in the USA and offer sub par networks. This is not the industry standard. Your overall benefit may be lower in the USA (standard), but your deductible should not change once you return the USA or your home country.

Plan Limitations - always read the plan Exclusions & Limitation Section and ask questions. Please understand that each international carrier has various limitations, especially for pregnancy, organ transplant, mental health, pre-existing conditions, preventive care, RX, air ambulance, and the first 180 days of coverage. There is no such thing as a 100% perfect plan.

Internet Purchase - do not purchase an international insurance plan off the internet without speaking to knowledgeable representative first. You may not be buying what you think you are! Some countries are off limits to certain insurers.

Coverage & Benefits - review the various plan offered by each carrier, many plans do not reimburse on a “Reasonable & Customary” model. Be aware of this. Also, Outpatient RX Reimbursement, Preventive Care, Organ Transplants, and Pregnancy coverage may not be included with all plans.

Lifetime Coverage Limits - make sure that you review plans that at least offer $1,000,000 of coverage per lifetime (for long term 12- month renewable plans). The standard is $1,000,000 - $5,000,000 per policy, per lifetime.

Choosing Annual Deductibles - check to see if there are limits with annual deductible options. Many carriers do not allow the members to lower their annual deductibles at time of annual renewal or during the contracted year. You may increase it in most cases.

Our consulting team would be glad to assist you, your family, or your business group. Remember, domestic health insurance and international health insurance is very different. Many “domestic brokers” or “domestic agents” and so called “international brokers” offering international plans, simply do not have the international experience that is required to handle emergencies, assist with claim management and wire transfers, translate with foreign providers, negotiate renewals, evaluate plans, and assist with air and ground evacuations.

My team only works with expatriates, third country nationals, and foreign locals. We work directly with our clients and not through brokers. You do not need to pay “override” fees or commissions to a “middle-man” broker or consultant. Coverage in the USA can be very expensive and usually only covers a member living or traveling outside of their home country in case of an emergency or “life threatening emergency” if you are lucky. Many expatriates often move out of their home countries and maintain their home country health insurance plan for an extended period of time or simply try to “beat the system.” This could result in a denial of claims and could cost you hundreds, if not thousands of dollars while jeopardizing your health.

Thank you for taking the time to read these tips.

We look forward to your questions and thoughts. Safe travels to you!

Robert Tillotson

Offshore Health Benefits, LTD

cell: 512.296.4976

http://www.tilloglobe.com

http://www.tilloglobe.com/short_term.php

DISCLAIMER: I do NOT know Robert Tillotson or the company he operates. He's just a broker I found. However, he appears to represent viable outfits. As well, I personally HAVE purchased policies from TravelGuard and they've been straight out helpful and upfront.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:13 am 
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I thought we had a classifieds section for stuff like this?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:58 am 
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BonePony wrote:
I thought we had a classifieds section foe stuff like this?


Be sure to post your experience(s) with the Costa Rican medical industry for the group, BonePoney, should you ever require emergency medical assistance in a country which has no blood bank and also a country where the public hospitals don't share blood supplies with the more exlcusive and "certified" private hospitals. It ought to be pretty comical reading. :roll: :lol: :P

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:16 am 
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What S1 did was combine three or four posts in the 'Pops' thread and put them in a separate thread on a suggestion by Thirdworld I think... Lot of good info a lot of guys should read and consider IMHO. Classifieds are for people selling stuff and S1 is just trying to inform us, not actually selling anything himself...

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S1, thanks for the flame, but it reads like an infomercial.

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S1, thanks for the flame, but it reads like an infomercial.

Really not trying to start something here but I believe Brother Steven1's message is getting lost in your critique of his writing style.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:36 pm 
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The $109 a year I spend on AMEX's emergency travel insurance, the policy gives me up to $100K worth of medical insurance in foreign countries. If the need arises, it will cover emergency treatment to get me stabilized and medivaced out fo the country. Not a bad investment in my book.


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The $109 a year I spend on AMEX's emergency travel insurance, the policy gives me up to $100K worth of medical insurance in foreign countries. If the need arises, it will cover emergency treatment to get me stabilized and medivaced out fo the country. Not a bad investment in my book.


Smart; and in the other thread it was noted that some credit card companies such as AMEX do provide the insurance. A problem however is that AMEX won't offer the coverage in any number of states due to those states' insurance "regulations": They compel one to purchase on a "per trip" basis. Sadly, my legal residence is in such a state. Lucky (and smart!) BlueDevil.

I recognize emergency medical trip insurance isn't something the MacDaddy's of the message board give a single thought to....after all, they're bullet proof. I ain't. *shrug*

However, the issue that board member "Pops" confronts....having to return to the USA due to botched emergency work in Costa Rica, is a sobering and thought provoking matter. The guys who stop pain are on strike (anesthesiologists), so surgery is delayed....in Costa Rica.....surgery finally takes place....and problems come into play as a result of the delay or as a result of butchery. Who knows? I, personally, choose to not find out. Hell, I'll ride on the skids of a Huey again. :shock: Anytime to get the hey out of dodge and up to the Mayo Clinic. Buy the best and weep once

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The old and annoying axiom goes like this "Don't get sick" and I add "anywhere on earth"!


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Its been my unlucky experience that most travel insurance is useless, particularly purchased from the airlines, AA for one, so much fine print, they really don't cover anything. Just Google "Travel Insurance Reviews" the joke is, the only way to collect is to die. American Express has one of the better policies. I know very little about insurance period, I would suggest talk to a travel agent, THAT YOU TRUST, and get recommendations. I'm getting to that age where If I continue to travel ,medical evacuation and getting sick is a concern.

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Medex, online, high marks, for about $40 for 2-3 weeks covers the main things, local hospital, med evac (to the states or north, most costly of all your problems for you and family) and repatriation (send your dead butt home--$15k?). Be sure you leave the policy number and their 800# with someone who can help you if you are non compes mentes, or dead.

Also covers the usual trip interruption, lost/damaged baggage, cancellations, and the other garden variety stuff.


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http://www.medexassist.com/ is a weblink to the company DGD refers to.

There is no question that "...buyer beware...." is in place when one makes a purchase of any insurance product.

I had noted earlier that the plans sold by the airlines and "check out time" are pretty bare bones if useful at all. Again, I personally have had good luck with TravelGuard....but only because an iPod was busted.

Getting mugged; hit by a car; even stepping out of a SJO cab onto what I'm thinking is a curbing, falling, and busting my ankle (at best) is a risk a guy has to be worried about.

Medical evacuation is something that needs to be taken seriously in my view.....particularly after the data that came in following Pops busted hip(s); the "strike" by the doctors; the delayed surgery; all leading to complications which sent him packing back to the US of A.

Do what you want to do.....it's your thing......*shrug* 8)
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Medex, online, high marks, for about $40 for 2-3 weeks covers the main things, local hospital, med evac (to the states or north, most costly of all your problems for you and family) and repatriation (send your dead butt home--$15k?). Be sure you leave the policy number and their 800# with someone who can help you if you are non compes mentes, or dead.

Also covers the usual trip interruption, lost/damaged baggage, cancellations, and the other garden variety stuff.

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Thanks to Steven1 for the comprehensive report. It had to take him every bit of an hour or more to spooon feed the board of what he has learned after what had to be hours of reading about a complex purchase. We have become conditioned to get info in 30-60 second soundbites. Some issues can't be meaningfully addressed like that.

We all think we are immortal, bullet proof, but it does happen. We see enough stories of Gringo's getting hurt or worse in the CR rags every other day or so. And those are only the ones that make the papers. Stansfield Turner, Jimmy Carter's former CIA director, crashed in a small plane with a handful of others, including his wife about 13? years ago taking off from Balanos. She died. I am sure he got evac'd and she on the next flight. But for the rest of us peons who get hurt or worse, I always wonder how they made out in CR, did they have the coverage to get back, dead or alive. Or did they languish in a SJ hospital or get cremated and buried in an unmarked crypt space in CR. And more often than not, it's our people back home who pay the heavy price. I doubt many families can afford a med evac, huge dollars for a private jet, pilots, a doc, a nurse, medical equipment, two ambulances, etc. $150-200,000 would not shock me. And I know to ship a dead person back is about $10-15k.

That's his point about being sure you are getting the right insurer/insurance. I like that AmEx plan but I don't AmEx. I did a ton of looking around before I started buying MedEx for $40. Crucial to leave the policy# and 800# with somebody who cares about you. Highly advisable to check in (on line) with the US Embassy in CR which asks for contact info, unless you are worried about Uncle or someone, but Uncle knows you are there anyway, the marvels of Immigration data.


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I doubt many families can afford a med evac, huge dollars for a private jet, pilots, a doc and a nurse, medical equipment, two ambulances, etc. $150-200,000 would not shock me. And I know to ship a dead person back is about $10-15k.



While I certainly agree that medical insurance is a very smart move for travelers and can save you a ton of money if something unforeseen happens I have to question where you are getting your numbers.

When people, without the necessary insurance, find themselves needing medevac it is often reported in the local press that they are attempting to raise the $50,000 necessary to cover the costs. The Consul of the U.S. Embassy in San Jose published a report less then a year ago where he stated concerning repatriation of a corpse from San Jose to the states " The total cost for preparation and air shipment is approximately $2000 to $3000." Certainly not cheap but a far cry from what you posted.

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http://www.travelinsurancereview.net

Just checked the reviews AccessAmerica, now renamed Allianz, sold by American Airlines still getting bad reviews. The editors ranking was number 9 out of 9.(Last of 9 rated companies.)Total waste of money


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