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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:50 am 
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steven H. Mekuly Has Passed

a few weeks ago while jogging in the AM in sabana park steve was stabbed by a few robbers which took no more than his cell phone.

it was initially not a fatal stabbing but due to an infection that he had gotten in the hospital. he passed away


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:53 am 
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it was initially not a fatal stabbing but due to an infection that he had gotten in the hospital. he passed away

This is the kind of shit that scares me about healthcare in a 3rd world country.

Sabana Park is west of the gulch, by the highway to the airport. You pass it on the right coming into the city from the airport, just as you are turning onto Paseo Colon.


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Sadly, it's an international problem. People going in for even minor procedures catching MRSA or VRSA, hospital born infections, and wind up staying for months or dying. Horror story after horror story. This is true even in the best of hospitals to the worst places of high incidents: Nursing Homes and Wound Weaning Centers. The cause is the over prescription of anti-biotics over the years needlessly (like for a cold or what not) to the point where the drugs don't work(the R stands for resistant) Google MRSA and VRSA, and there's another drug resistant super-bug now being diagnosed, name eludes me. If you want to stay alive, stay out of the hospital. And make sure you don't ake anti-biotics unless you really need them. The literature suggests that the Scandinavian countries supposedly have a handle on it because they recognized the potential problems decades ago and cracked down on rx for anti-biotics.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:25 am 
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it was initially not a fatal stabbing but due to an infection that he had gotten in the hospital. he passed away


This is the kind of shit that scares me about healthcare in a 3rd world country.



If you believe you are safe from contracting a fatal infection in a hospital anywhere in the world you have a false sense of security. I know that anecdotal evidence will be presented to show that third world countries have a higher rate of infection but you cannot lump all third world countries in a single pile. Costa Rica has some great hospitals, some average hospitals and some not as good hospitals just as the U.S. does. Most likely your chance of contracting a fatal infection varies widely between which hospitals you are in no matter what country you have the misfortune to need hospital admittance.

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A nosocomial infection (nos-oh-koh-mi-al), also known as a hospital-acquired infection or HAI, is an infection whose development is favoured by a hospital environment, such as one acquired by a patient during a hospital visit or one developing among hospital staff. Such infections include fungal and bacterial infections and are aggravated by the reduced resistance of individual patients.[1]

In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of microorganisms, including bacteria, combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.[2] In Europe, where hospital surveys have been conducted, the category of Gram-negative infections are estimated to account for two-thirds of the 25,000 deaths each year. Nosocomial infections can cause severe pneumonia and infections of the urinary tract, bloodstream and other parts of the body. Many types are difficult to attack with antibiotics, and antibiotic resistance is spreading to Gram-negative bacteria that can

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Actually CR is not a Third World country.iirrc


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Actually CR is not a Third World country.iirrc

You are right, it's closer to 4th.


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I read medical journals at least bi-weekly as part of my profession, must do, not fun. There's alot of lit out there about MRSA and VRSA and other bacterial hospital born infections. Tons in fact.

It's now widely known that physicians neck ties are very often colonized with these germs, as are their pagers, scopes, and lab coats which patients are exposed to as the docs do their daily rounds. I know that sounds crazy but Google "doctor physician neck ties pagers lab coats bacteria germs ".

Other thing is make sure the doc/nurses/support staff always wash their hands upon entry; if not you have to have the nerve to ask them. It's policy now so they shouldn't mind. I know some hospitals are covering the drywall with stainless, easier to clean. Every time a patient gets sick with a hospital born infection, major expensive clean-up in that room.

In 2010, my friend went to the VA (and I am not singling out the VA) for gall bladder which is no big surgery anymore, they suck it out and it can be day surgery. The VA uses surgeons from nearby major hospitals now, at least at my VA, they use Loyola's docs which shares a campus with the VA Hospital. Yep, he caught VRSA, 11 months later he went home, 3 months at a nursing home. Not the same person either.


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Actually CR is not a Third World country.iirrc

You are right, it's closer to 4th.



Using established parameters Costa Rica is clearly a Third World country. However, considering that China, South Korea and Russia as well as other developed counties are classified Third World the designation is hardly the denigrating description that most associate with the term "Third World". Seeing as how there are no Second World countries anymore and Fourth World countries are almost without industrialization with little chance of developing any the reality is that the gap between first tier Third World Countries and lower tier Third World countries is so broad the term Third World is basically meaningless.
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The First World is the developed world - US, Canada, western Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand, etc.. The Second World was the Communist world led by the USSR. With the demise of the USSR and the communist block, there is no longer a Second World. The Third World is the underdeveloped world - agrarian, rural and poor. Many Third World countries have one or two developed cities, but the rest of the country is poor, rural and agrarian. Eastern Europe should probably be considered Third World. Russia should also be considered a Third World country with nuclear weapons. China, has always been considered Third World, and still is. In general, Latin America, including Mexico, Africa, and most of Asia are still considered Third World. The Asian tigers - South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, except for their big cities, their maquiladora-type production facilities, a small middle class and a much smaller ruling elite should probably be considered Third World countries as well, since their populations are overwhelmingly rural, agrarian and poor.
Some of the very poorest countries, especially in Africa, that have no industrialization, are almost entirely agrarian (subsistence farming), and have little or no hope of industrializing and competing in the world "marketplace", are sometimes termed the "Fourth World".
The term "Third World" is not universally accepted. Some prefer other terms such as - the South, non-industrialized countries, underdeveloped countries, undeveloped countries, mal-developed countries, and emerging nations. The term "Third World" is probably the one most widely used in the media today.
No term describes all non-"First World", non-industrialized, non-developed, non -"Western" countries accurately. In comparison, the United States has been categorized as being part of : the West, the First World, the industrialized world, the developed world, the North.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:18 pm 
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I totally agree ID that people die of infections everywhere! Hospitals regardless of location scare the shit out of me just because of that reason. 1st world, 3rd world, whatever, infections in hospitals kill more people than you would ever imagine.


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And always buy the med evac insurance in case you do get hurt bad, it's cheap, as well as the repatriation insurance--in case your dead--both fly you back to the US or wherever. Without it it'll cost your family at least $12-15k to fly your corpse home, and a ton more for med evac. Comes with travel insurance packages you can buy on line with alot of other coverages--$30-40.


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We have mentioned this before, but check out the insurance offered by DAN-Divers Alert Network. They also provide repatriation of remains benefits. Although for my final blowjob I would like the girls at the Blue Marlin to blow my ashes across the bar. You can keep the urn. :D

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