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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:32 am 
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You guys should read Thirdworld's post about pricing right now...... Slow time the girls are hungry. So don't worry about cien, worry about something else now......


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These days, when you get quoted cien, you just have to give the chica an eye roll or a little laugh, and the price drops faster the their gut when they unzip their jeans. :lol:



HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats a GREAT ONE!! And its SOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE!!!

Last year was my FIRST Visit to CR./ I have THIS Board to thank for what I call being "ahead of the curve" by just a SMALL BIT!! The nice thing for a NewB reading this board, and then going to CR for the forst time is the fact that NAMES Stand out You KNOW WHere you are "SUPPOSED" To go...

For Example, I wound up on a street corner after being checked in with ( I hate to admit it my MOTHER) at the Holiday Inn. SO I went for a wlak, and then after referring to my Handy CRT Printouts, I asked, Por Favor Donde Esta Hotel Del Ray.. The nice gentleman, simply POINTED, and THERE I WAS... In HEAVEN! It was early afternoon, got a "lay of the land" adn Left to go across teh street to check out that casino there - You know the one right guys?? the Kitty corner to HDR. ANYWAYS< they had a Craps Table, which I enjoy, and I wind up winning somewhere in the neighborhood of $1500.00 USD.. I was tickled Pink.. THEN I checked INTO the DR, got a Walk In Rate of $100- And decided tpo "play Small" at the BlackJack - or (Rummy) table" and waited for things to "get going-

Met a Very nice Older gentleman, and I could NOT Take my EYES off this STUNNING! Blonde(s) Im generally a guy who always leans towards Blondes! ANYWAYS, So I was aksing more question while I was doing well playing rummy, on a Rather small scaled - wasnt prepared to giove back my initial win across teh street, and figured, if I take things easy, that WIN, will "Take care of me" for my week, of course including the money I had brought down, but Everyone Ims uire can agbree that with an ADITIONAL Win of $1500 its GREAT! to have especially as a Reserve. Right??

Back to thsi gentleman, he spoke fluent both english & Spanish, As I speak pretty good Spanish Mysellf, - at least can put words together... SO this guy, what a GREAT wealth of Info, and So a few of his "Quotes" and or Informatuive Information - was "all it takes is 4 of them Green chips in your hand" "ANYONE Here thats ALL it takes" Basically advising me of the CIEN Rule, and that 4 of my 25$ Green chips would handle any one of the 40 or so Chicas there" LoL!! And then either I was Literalluy DROOLING Just STARRING (Rather UN Appropriatley - I would say) at the Blondy walking around like she owned the joint, and when I simply aske dthis gentleman about her, his reply was GREAT and VERY INFORMATIVE it went something like this " OH, the Boxy Twins, theyll have You in and out in 10 Minutes, Wham Bam Thankyou por tu Cien Dollares, NO loving there, NO Fun there, MJust in and out.. Trust me K*D, Theres MUCH better round here" I reply "Really R U Serious, I mean she is STUNNING!!!," His reply " Trust me, on this one" then went on to say "You want a LOVER, a REAL GIRL, a TRUE Lady?" Im like sure, but still cant get the Barby look a like out of my mind.. He goe son to say this girl took care of him while he was sick, didnt ask fro a dollar etc etc... he says " OK Im gonna call this girl over here, and when she starts talkin to me, you just grab her ass" Dontfoget this is my FIRST DAY IN CR, Im thinking to Myslef, WHAT!! May get slapped or something! LOL!:):):)!!! Anyways, I do as he says, and later on I travel up to my room with her - Sorry guys dont remember teh name -- ANYWAYS As he said, She WAS INDEED A "LOVER" No Mechanicall BS, Aimed to Please., and as mentionmed HERE NEVER Asked for the MONEY!!!, I Think she ALMOST FORGOT To ask for teh MOney.. Lol!!! :) I have a lot to thankyou to that man for...

At the end, near the end of my rtrip after returning from Jaco Beach, Where I got "SCHOOLED" In THEIR Multiple Chicken Shit Casions, and etc etc... PLS. I DOnt EVER Want to think of THAT Casino experince again - The MARRIOT! ( I Think) After winning at the Cocal, donated EVERYTHING back.. ANYWAYS... Long story short when I returned to teh HDR 2-3 days before I was to depart, I said to myself, I MUST at all costs have time with The BARBIE ( Boxy Twin) Look a like! I mean HOW could I NOT!!!! Im sure you have ALL Seen her there!! and ( Had I Had her FIRST, My whole trip, and impressions of the Chicas TO THIS DAY< would ALL be Compromised) And it was JUST As he Said... Money up front, CBJ, she got a 15 out of a possible 10 for MEchanical, and she had so many rules, I basically paid her Cien to LEAVE!!! Taht was my Barbie Look a like story!!

THIS YEAR! -- It is My PLAN! and or GOAL! To TRY (MY BEST) To first Drive my Father TO FLA, when he wants to go,a nd when My Schedule perm its,a dn from There, I will Fly out on my own for a Quick 10 Day visit, that SPIRIT AIR, is a GREAT FARE if You book early enough and are flexible on the times... I also have a Friedn there, she owns a House, Near one of the Embassies... SO, I will just go from Ft. Lauderdale, to SJO, spend ALL my time there, THIS Time try the MP's that I have been doing LOTS of reading here on CRT, and I find Them to be QUITE APPEALING! I Would like to understand more of it, And I HAVE REad a lot of posts... Just dont FULLY Understand, but as Last time at least I will have a WORKING KNOWLEDGE Of things, and i really look forward to try the MPS Out... Then check into the DR, or evenm some Slummier dump, where its chea;per, I dont know just play it by year, and just spend my time in SJO.

THEN After I complete some of my business here in Toronto, where I LIve... Again My PLAN IS!!! ( I Mean I used to go to ACAPULCO, MEX, ALL THE TIME< whjere my family has Condoes... After visiting CR Last year.. ACAPULCO< is fort teh BIRDS!! FU&K Mexico, altogether!!! After CR... Much Safer, Much more Picturesque, Much more STuff to do, and DEFINATLEY Much more exciting, and Much more M<onger Friendly!

BY THE WAY! WHERE Would be some good "Discos" to go to on my own, when I DO gom, to SJO. I had a Bad experiuence in one in JAco Beach, a Tranvestite tried SOOO hard to pick me up, and Would NOT LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! I had to RUN to my Hotel..LOL!!! (Funny thing is U NEVER Woulda known it, unless the bouncer told me, etc etgc...LOL)

SO WHERE Would You Fellow CRT's Reccomend a single, ALOEN Guy to go for some nice Music, Dance, House, AND Possibly some chicas "Hanging Arpound" Please advise, would be a great help! - Last time i never DID make it to teh Sportsmens Lodge.. Can I get some feedback on comparison issues RE: HDR Vs. Sportsmens Lodge, and distance apart??

Anyways, after I do my business here at home, Im goin to set it up, where I go foran ENTIRE MONTH JUST After New Years - IS that Stiull a Good time, or is it kind of DEAD?? Last time I went was MIddle to end of MArch... How is January say around the 10th of Jan, until Feb 1st?? "Action wise" Busy" Has Everything been So QUIET Up until that point that Everyone is looking for as much cash as they can get those days????

Anywayhs, Not sure if this wa steh correct place to post -- I STARTED by Laughing So Long at the post mentioned earlier, and I then rambled onto this!

Thanks fro reading, and ALL of your help--

Right now I Ask you again for Nice "Discos" where I could go, enjoy some House, Dance Musica
How is the "Action" as in People etc etc, during the Month of JANUARY
And the List of teh MP's well I can print off a copy from earlier threads I came across
OH And opinions in Difference between SL vs HDR
Any anything else... Would love to Actually MEET Some of you there, and truly Hope to do SO!!!

Untill then

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:33 am 
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Nice Trip Report. Here's a list of bars and events in SJ and surrounding area:
http://www.ticoparty.com/
For a list of MPs and other venues, and access to all the rest of the Board including our great Monger Map, seriously consider joining us as a paid Member, which you can do in CR at the Dunn Inn.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:39 pm 
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If anyone here is paying cien please don't tell anyone. Just go home and realize you are f***ing things up for everyone else.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:58 pm 
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I would like to find a $175 overnight, but that is wishing I think.
Actually no, it isn't. Cien overnights are not unheard of.

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shop late (after 2am) at the top bar at DR , GO SOLO and let the party come to you !!! cant tell you what you might find being in the mouth of party ....any night the odds are on your side .....rules to follow ....1. dont get there to early .....you want the ones that are either out to party or looking late 2. find a seat where you can watch everything going on (dont want to miss something good or crazy) 3. dont be in a rush ...relax have a few beers 4. again go solo as a wing will want to leave and to many pairs of girls will hit on you ...you are there to find the different one 5. its late and chances are the one you take ..since its late will want to stay and get some sleep anyway6. $50 isnt hard to sell ...$60 is game over 7, I want back to this plan on my last few nights of my last trip ,,,,and had a great time and found great girls .....


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Once again - lots of talk about CIEN lately. *Bump* for the newer members :arrow:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:44 am 
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Muchas Gracias to Mucho Gusto for writing the thread - very insightful & well written!

<Bump!>

Thanks to MiamiHeller for pointing me to it.

This thread has so much good info and I have a lot less experience than most of you guys, so I don't mean to come across as someone with all the answers, but I would like to add a couple guidelines that I try to use and get the opinions of the board:

* Have an understanding of "fair market value".

That way, if you happen to go over it, you do so consciously, rather than figuring it out much later and feeling like an idiot. For example she's asking for $20 more than it really should be, but you are still really into it and $20 extra doesn't really bother you, then maybe you go for it. Which brings up another guideline:

* If you do over-pay or have a bad experience or whatever, don't dwell on it and let it ruin your time in paradise. The next 5 will probably be MUCH better.

This notion of fair market value (I'm sure another subject that has been talked to death here) is one that has me thinking of graphs and charts... or cheat sheets like the playing cards that show the correct action on any given hand of Black Jack. I know that this whole negotiation thing is part art and part science, and the art aspect doesn't fit on a graph. However, it feels like there are some things that are "relatively" quantifiable.

For example, maybe this is a relative guideline for a certain scenario -

Scenario: You're in your 40's; average looking; it's Saturday night, 8pm, at SL. You're looking for 1 hour, 1 leche. A girl who scores this on a scale of 1-10 has a fair market value of this:

Girl 1-5 / fmv $50
6 / $60
7 / $70
8 / $80
9 / $90
10 / $100

Then maybe there's some factor for getting a certain number of "extras" from the a la carte menu mentioned earlier in the thread. Like if you want to add "dos leches", maybe that's $20 extra to the price above. Maybe BBBJ is $10 extra?

Maybe if you want 2 extras it's $30, etc...although maybe if you buy 2 extras you should get a 3rd free?

Maybe if it's daytime on a Tuesday at SL you subtract 10 or so from the chart above.

Opinions please. Sorry if I'm hijacking this classic thread.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:00 am 
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7Costanza wrote:
Muchas Gracias to Mucho Gusto for writing the thread - very insightful & well written!

<Bump!>

Thanks to MiamiHeller for pointing me to it.

This thread has so much good info and I have a lot less experience than most of you guys, so I don't mean to come across as someone with all the answers, but I would like to add a couple guidelines that I try to use and get the opinions of the board:

* Have an understanding of "fair market value".

That way, if you happen to go over it, you do so consciously, rather than figuring it out much later and feeling like an idiot. For example she's asking for $20 more than it really should be, but you are still really into it and $20 extra doesn't really bother you, then maybe you go for it. Which brings up another guideline:

* If you do over-pay or have a bad experience or whatever, don't dwell on it and let it ruin your time in paradise. The next 5 will probably be MUCH better.

This notion of fair market value (I'm sure another subject that has been talked to death here) is one that has me thinking of graphs and charts... or cheat sheets like the playing cards that show the correct action on any given hand of Black Jack. I know that this whole negotiation thing is part art and part science, and the art aspect doesn't fit on a graph. However, it feels like there are some things that are "relatively" quantifiable.

For example, maybe this is a relative guideline for a certain scenario -

Scenario: You're in your 40's; average looking; it's Saturday night, 8pm, at SL. You're looking for 1 hour, 1 leche. A girl who scores this on a scale of 1-10 has a fair market value of this:

Girl 1-5 / fmv $50
6 / $60
7 / $70
8 / $80
9 / $90
10 / $100

Then maybe there's some factor for getting a certain number of "extras" from the a la carte menu mentioned earlier in the thread. Like if you want to add "dos leches", maybe that's $20 extra to the price above. Maybe BBBJ is $10 extra?

Maybe if you want 2 extras it's $30, etc...although maybe if you buy 2 extras you should get a 3rd free?

Maybe if it's daytime on a Tuesday at SL you subtract 10 or so from the chart above.

Opinions please. Sorry if I'm hijacking this classic thread.

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You're not hijacking anything but I think you're over thinking this.

Do the interview and find out if she does what you like (and how many times :shock: :mrgreen: ). If she qualifies (we already know you like how she looks or you wouldn't be having the conversation in the first place) have a "max" figure in your head and then ask her how much.

From there on closing the deal (or not) shouldn't be too difficult. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:53 am 
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I'm glad to see 7Costanza threw a scale in there. This price thing is always kicked around, but is one price fits all. I mean some of these chicas DON'T deserve the same money for x amount of time as an attractive one. I was a little intoxicated at the SL a couple of weeks back. Chicas were trying to pick me off, but I've learned in the past I don't make good decisions when drinking. I got several pitches and the fuglies were asking the same money as the hot chicas. One who was rather unattractive propositioned me and I actually couldn't hold back at little laugh at her offer. I've learned to trust my instinct with chicas. If you talk with them for half an hour you generally can get a feel for them. I guess I've been fairly lucky overall. Have had good times with some really hot chicas. I don't go with the "broken down" because of "performance".


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:42 pm 
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7Costanza wrote:

This notion of fair market value (I'm sure another subject that has been talked to death here) is one that has me thinking of graphs and charts... or cheat sheets like the playing cards that show the correct action on any given hand of Black Jack. I know that this whole negotiation thing is part art and part science, and the art aspect doesn't fit on a graph. However, it feels like there are some things that are "relatively" quantifiable.

For example, maybe this is a relative guideline for a certain scenario -

Scenario: You're in your 40's; average looking; it's Saturday night, 8pm, at SL. You're looking for 1 hour, 1 leche. A girl who scores this on a scale of 1-10 has a fair market value of this:

Girl 1-5 / fmv $50
6 / $60
7 / $70
8 / $80
9 / $90
10 / $100

Then maybe there's some factor for getting a certain number of "extras" from the a la carte menu mentioned earlier in the thread. Like if you want to add "dos leches", maybe that's $20 extra to the price above. Maybe BBBJ is $10 extra?

Maybe if you want 2 extras it's $30, etc...although maybe if you buy 2 extras you should get a 3rd free?

Maybe if it's daytime on a Tuesday at SL you subtract 10 or so from the chart above.

Opinions please. Sorry if I'm hijacking this classic thread.


I'm an econometrician by training, and even I think you over-quantified this. But I would add that your pricing scale is linear where it shouldn't be. the 5 and under chicas are probably worth A LOT less than 50, and a true 10 would be worth a lot MORE than 100. at best, the scale should be reasonably linear between on chicas between 6-8, with 9s commanding a steeper price premium due to scarcity, and 5s and below being essentially in an over-supply glut relative to demand. And BBBJ and DATY is certainly worth more of a premium with a 9 hottie than a 5 fugly.

My point is, I can see why someone would pay more for the genuine hotties who are 9s or better, but there is no excuse for paying even $60 for a fugly who gives BBBJ - and fuglies should pay you for DATY.

There is, of course, SOME uncertainty in the rankings, because someone's 7.5 might be someone else's 9, but fat is fat in anyone's eyes.


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7Costanza wrote:
For example, maybe this is a relative guideline for a certain scenario -

Scenario: You're in your 40's; average looking; it's Saturday night, 8pm, at SL. You're looking for 1 hour, 1 leche. A girl who scores this on a scale of 1-10 has a fair market value of this:

Girl 1-5 / fmv $50
6 / $60
7 / $70
8 / $80
9 / $90
10 / $100

Then maybe there's some factor for getting a certain number of "extras" from the a la carte menu mentioned earlier in the thread. Like if you want to add "dos leches", maybe that's $20 extra to the price above. Maybe BBBJ is $10 extra?

Maybe if you want 2 extras it's $30, etc...although maybe if you buy 2 extras you should get a 3rd free?

Maybe if it's daytime on a Tuesday at SL you subtract 10 or so from the chart above.

Opinions please. Sorry if I'm hijacking this classic thread.

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This is not science. This should be less quantitative/business and more about human relations. :idea: Unless you are actually looking for a non-GFE assembly line Phuck.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:45 pm 
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CIEN sounds reasonable to me if....

I will not speak exclusively to CR as I will be embarking on my virgin journey in 3 months. However I have been to LOS, PI and MX hundreds of times. There are no steadfast rules in any negotiation ....especially these kind. Each venue obviously varies in price however many general rules do apply.

I always believe in creating incentive. Therefore I assure a hot girl that I am very generous completely depending on her performance. I give her a RANGE (ie. $80-$120) totally depending on performance. I have found the ones that know they will "step up" have no problem trusting that I am not out to con them. If they don't believe that I am a nice and generous guy and will treat them more than fairly, then they're either old experienced pro's, scammers, or malcontents and not right for me.

I believe this strategy has often yielded me tremendous GFE from girls that normally provide only the minimum required.


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Sounds like a good tactic Shark.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:08 pm 
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Platinum shark wrote:
CIEN sounds reasonable to me if....

I will not speak exclusively to CR as I will be embarking on my virgin journey in 3 months. However I have been to LOS, PI and MX hundreds of times. There are no steadfast rules in any negotiation ....especially these kind. Each venue obviously varies in price however many general rules do apply.

I always believe in creating incentive. Therefore I assure a hot girl that I am very generous completely depending on her performance. I give her a RANGE (ie. $80-$120) totally depending on performance. I have found the ones that know they will "step up" have no problem trusting that I am not out to con them. If they don't believe that I am a nice and generous guy and will treat them more than fairly, then they're either old experienced pro's, scammers, or malcontents and not right for me.

I believe this strategy has often yielded me tremendous GFE from girls that normally provide only the minimum required.
Plat, this is good advice. I will try the incentive "range" technique. And I hope you find the upscale hotel that fits your needs. Please report back with your findings.

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