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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:02 pm 
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The apparent advantage of Ristorante Machu Picchu is that it is across the street from Oasis “massage” parlor, one of my favorites (Calle 32, 150 meters north of Paseo Colon). A week ago in the early afternoon, I enjoyed a great session with a gorgeous, young, hard-body, multiorgasmic red-head (dyed of course) who claimed it was her third day in this line of work after quitting a job at the Internet Casino. At 17,000 colones for one hour, I remembered why I go to Costa Rica – she was surprised by her own hotness. So I was in a very good mood and well-showered when I went across the street to Machu Picchu, which was full of families, daters, and groups of friends (no other foreigners). I always seem to get the same waiter, perhaps because he speaks English. I ordered a half-liter of wine off the menu, but he insisted multiple times that I try a full bottle of the house wine for the same price. I repeatedly said that the price was not the same – 9,300 does not equal 12,000. But he insisted that the tax on the half-liter bottle would make the price equal to the full bottle. So I finally gave in on his wine recommendation (a Chilean, not bad), and ordered the brochetas (grilled skewers) of beef, chicken, and shrimp with some veggies. I then drank wine, ate a little bread, and waited-waited-waited for the disappeared waiter to re-appear. People who came in after me were served complex courses of food while I waited. Finally in my broken Spanish I asked another waiter to find my waiter and food. In a few minutes my waiter re-appeared with the food and complained that the cooks had taken too long. The food was hot but obviously overcooked, so that the shrimp was tough and the beef was dry and black. My theory is that my waiter took a break, returned to find my cooked food cold, and asked the cooks to nuke it. To top things off, the bill stated that the wine cost 12,500 colones not 12,000, and (you guessed it), tax was added on top of that, as well as a 10% “service” fee. I told the guy I would call the police if he didn’t reduce the price, and he did, while complaining.

Overall, this is the kind of gringo-ripoff game that turns me off to Costa Rica. Clearly this place with its substantial prices would not be full of Costa Ricans unless they were treated well, with great food. But the gringo gets the shaft. These moments remind me of the C. R. cops who shook me down on the highway while waving the locals by, of the girl at New Fantasy who gave me 2,000 in change when she owed me $5, of the taxi driver who claimed to know where Hostel Marruecos was and drove the wrong way to a place that pays him a fee, and the list goes on and on (e.g., the new pricing and rules at Pantera Rosa). It’s impossible to feel secure from being ripped off unless you stay on the grounds of the Sportsmen’s for the entire trip, with transportation supplied. I say all this while knowing that I have been well-treated in many places by many people in Costa Rica (and that includes the red-head, the Hotel Castillo, and the dancers at Key Largo). One final clarification: because of the Machu Picchu set-up with covered windows and empty doorway, no one saw me come out of un-marked Oasis, so the bad treatment did not have to do with negative feelings about prostitution or johns (maybe I could understand this). No, this particular waiter simply hates Americans, and he is the guy who is going to wait on you if don’t heed my recommendation to go elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:50 pm 
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There are plenty of Americans who treat foreigners like shit. I know that for a fact as I was married for a long time to a foreigner. I can't list how many times she got cheated and treated like shit, then I would call up and talk to someone and oops, that xenophobe found out she has an American husband and they're gonna get called out on their bullshit.

So Costa Rica is not unique in this regard. It's something you just have to accept and keep an eye out for - xenophobia is prevalent in most countries.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:15 pm 
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Been there many times and have always enjoyed good food and service. it really helps if you speak the language fluently. If not, you will always be subject to some level of BS. Not just in CR but in many countries. That being said - a wise man once told me to "tropicalize" my expectations and I will be much happier in Latin America. So in addition to learning the language and the culture, I have also become willing to accept standard Tico services which is far below what we have come to expect in finer establishments.

I understand your frustration - don't give up 1) chill out a bit and learn the culture 2) if you really plan to be a regular visitor to CR or other Latin countries, lean the language (at the least the basics) and 3) when someone is screwing you - just be polite and persistant and usually they will give in.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:52 am 
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I always like to treat myself to a lunch or dinner at Machu Picchu. The food is superb, but somewhat pricier than the local sodas I usually frequent. I'm willing to pay extra for the treat. I've never ran into any glitches with the wait staff... I find them courteous and accommodating. When I am making a request, I take my time, and make sure it is understood. I can appreciate how the language and culture may be a barrier for some... but then again, whose fault is that? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:38 pm 
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I always like to treat myself to a lunch or dinner at Machu Picchu. The food is superb, but somewhat pricier than the local sodas I usually frequent. I'm willing to pay extra for the treat. I've never ran into any glitches with the wait staff... I find them courteous and accommodating. When I am making a request, I take my time, and make sure it is understood. I can appreciate how the language and culture may be a barrier for some... but then again, whose fault is that? :roll:



The Parilla Mixto (mixed grill) is my favorite and cost about $50.00 bucks. The upside is it will feed 3 people (big gringos) easily.

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As a big fan of Peruvian food and a frequent traveler to Peru, I would say the food is average. I also used to like to go there after sessions at Oasis or other Paseo Colon places, but it really was mostly part of the ritual and the love of the cuisine that made it special for me. Frankly, Soda Peru is much better, and less than half the price. The services is also far more attentive and "honest"- they treat you well.

I do also agree with the poster that spoke about the prevalence of xenophobia in many countries- frankly, it is far worse for Latinos in many US cities than for us in Costa Rica.


Now, the next post is not in response to the original poster, but a general comment.

With some many gringos believing that much of their culture is "muy Tico" (read, foolish and idiotic), don't you think that such an attitude comes across subtly (or not so subtly). Of course it does, and so what is the response? Screw the gringo....Of course, it is displaced on those who do not deserve it, and therefore many start to feel the anti-gringo attitude.

We have lost some of our appeal to them, and visa versa.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:06 pm 
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The Parilla Mixto (mixed grill) is my favorite and cost about $50.00 bucks. The upside is it will feed 3 people (big gringos) easily.


The seafood parilla entrees are what keep me coming back to Machu Picchu. And when the price is whacked up between two or three seafood lovers, it takes the sting out of the pricing.

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Frankly, Soda Peru is much better, and less than half the price. The services is also far more attentive and "honest"- they treat you well.


Yes, Soda Peru is a mariscos favorite of mine as well. This little hole in the wall offers excellent Peruvian seafood cuisine at very reasonable prices. I only wish it offered the Machu Picchu-style parillas.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:59 pm 
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I agree that Soda Peru is great and inexpensive. It was a major bummer that they closed for almost month and that coincided with my last trip in April.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:30 pm 
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The Parilla Mixto (mixed grill) is my favorite and cost about $50.00 bucks. The upside is it will feed 3 people (big gringos) easily.


The seafood parilla entrees are what keep me coming back to Machu Picchu. And when the price is whacked up between two or three seafood lovers, it takes the sting out of the pricing.

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Frankly, Soda Peru is much better, and less than half the price. The services is also far more attentive and "honest"- they treat you well.


Yes, Soda Peru is a mariscos favorite of mine as well. This little hole in the wall offers excellent Peruvian seafood cuisine at very reasonable prices. I only wish it offered the Machu Picchu-style parillas.


Tried Soda Peru on a recommendation from Pops and was very pleased. Best ceviche mixto (huge portion) for next to nothing in price. I go to Machu Pichu for the Parilla. I can also tell you that I enjoy Inka Grill for a good selection of everything but it is even pricier than Machu Pichu!.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:07 am 
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.theyre programmed to accept minimized expectation and mediocrity ...with a large portion of bravado instilled by the fear of confronting a reality filled with decisions to be made outside the parameters of passive aggressive socialist programming..


Exactly, took 20 minutes to convince the waiter at Soda Tapia that he wouldn't lose his job if he asked the cook for breakfast cheese that wasn't fried to charcoal.

He kept telling us that is how they cook it, black and burnt. We havn't been back.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:32 pm 
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I appreciate the replies, whether in support of this restaurant or not. Actually, I can communicate reasonably well in Spanish; indeed I tend to avoid chicas who speak English. But if a waiter starts out the conversation with understandable English, I'm not going to embarrass him by switching to Spanish. Also, I don't mind service that is a little slow -- see my review of Balcon de Europa. I just thought I'd report on M. P.'s very badly overcooked grilled food, a waiter who must have been lost for at least 15 minutes, and outright fraud on the wine bill. For the sake of balance, it is good that others report good experiences at the same restaurant where I happened to have bad luck.

I'll definitely try Soda Peru on my next and 15th trip to Costa Rica. But before that I'm going to Paraguay this summer to see if people treat gringos just a little different when they don't deal with them every day.

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The Parilla Mixto (mixed grill) is my favorite and cost about $50.00 bucks. The upside is it will feed 3 people (big gringos) easily.


The seafood parilla entrees are what keep me coming back to Machu Picchu. And when the price is whacked up between two or three seafood lovers, it takes the sting out of the pricing.

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Frankly, Soda Peru is much better, and less than half the price. The services is also far more attentive and "honest"- they treat you well.


Yes, Soda Peru is a mariscos favorite of mine as well. This little hole in the wall offers excellent Peruvian seafood cuisine at very reasonable prices. I only wish it offered the Machu Picchu-style parillas.



My dos colonies - its not bad, but waaaay overpriced(Machu Picchu) - and while the atmosphere at Soda Peru is not even close, the food - IMO - is better and much less expensive.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:47 pm 
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It seems like in the last few years the Ticos like to play screw the gringo, not that there was'nt the always the game, just more prevalent now. As far as Machu_Picchu, went there several years ago. It was good ,but I thought it was pricey. I rather eat at local places then get invovled in playing lets screw the gringo. I also speak spanish fluently but it doesn't stop the game.
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