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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:15 am 
i always take enough green backs. but i do appreciate the info on atms. my last trip at mas x menos, they gave a better exchange rate than the pres . pura vida


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:14 pm 
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On my last trip, I used the ATM at the Del Rey for the first time. When I got back and read my statement, the charge was the same as it is at the corner 7-11,

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:18 pm 
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The ATM by the public computers in the DR gives cash, and has never charged me a fee. My bank charges a $1.50 foreign transaction fee, so I take out 100k colones a pop to save fees.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:32 pm 
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Neither ATM at the DR charges a fee, any charges are by your bank in the States.
The ATM by the elevators dispenses cash, the one by the casino cashier dispenses a receipt you take to the cashier. While sometimes the cashier is closed for a short while the advantage is you can get your cash in any denomination you want rather than a fist full of 10000 colones notes.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:49 am 
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I use a Colonial Bank ATM card without foreign transaction fees.
They have some branches in FL, GA, AL, NV and TX.

It was an unusual experience to be in the lobby of the Santiago, Chile airport and use my ATM card to pull out about $300 in Pesos.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:56 pm 
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7-11...

Suggest you have a long discussion with your US Bank...
looks like they are having a "little $$ intercourse" :roll: with you....

I've been using ATM in Costa Rica for years and NEVER had a ATM charge
on my account.
I do business in US with a small local bank that is very tech advanced in their accounts. Have used Red Ball (airport) , Del Rey, Morazan, Colonial, Scotia, and ATMs in Jaco, El Roble, Liberia and Quepos and never had a
a problem... especially like the ATM you swipe because.... 1) It can NOT eat your card, & 2) if you are absent minded and walk away without taking your receipt, :oops: the machine times out and prevents any other trabnsactions with out swiping the card again....!!!

I believe your problem is in the US not CR....

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:39 pm 
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Vegas7-11 wrote:
every time I drew cash it was about 10% to draw the cash and another $3.00 for every transaction by my Wells Fargo Bank.


I missed that the first time I read your post, Wells Fargo is notorious for adding sneaky fees and percentages, even worse than Bank of America. My friends mortgage got bought by Wells Fargo and he has some fee almost every month they dream up to charge him.

I would seriously shop around for a better US bank, maybe even a credit union, CU's are non profits and member owned generally, so they are not out to screw you every chance they get, unlike banks who are for profit corporations required by law to maximize return for shareholders and board.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:43 am 
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I thank everyone for their help and suggestions, that is why I think this is a great site. Lots of great ideas

What I am talking about though is this:
The ATM at DR on the right side of the front desk the ATM transacts either in English or Spanish.

So I press English, Take out $200 in colones on the Debit Card and when I get home to the states and balance my checkbook, that $200 actually cost's me $216.70, plus a $3.00 bank fee.

In my book that is 10%. The exchange rate must be very high at DR because their dollar is much weaker than ours and yet $200 just cost me $219.70.

The same went for $100 withdrawal that cost $108.64 plus a $3.00 bank fee for about 11% total exchange and fee. If the cost I am talking about is an expected exchange rate then they can kiss my ass next time with their exchange rate to get colones. Everywhere takes American anyway.

I did this at Scotia Bank, Mutual Avienda, DR and the end result every time on my Debit Card was 10 to 11% exchange and fees.

That is why for me the next trip in July will be pure American greenbacks and a good safe in the room, just like having my own bank without the exchange rates, fees or hassles. Where a 10 is a 10 and a 20 is a 20 and etc..etc..


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:45 am 
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Vegas 7-11 wrote:

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The exchange rate must be very high at DR because their dollar is much weaker than ours and yet $200 just cost me $219.70.



Not sure what you mean by the DR $ being weaker than ours. While Rey translates to King they do not have their own $ (yet :lol:)

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I did this at Scotia Bank, Mutual Avienda, DR and the end result every time on my Debit Card was 10 to 11% exchange and fees.



This is your clue to where the problem lies. It happened every place you used your debit card. The rip off is your hometown bank not the ATM. As has been posted here before the exchange rate is determined by your bank the only charge you may see from the company that owns the ATM is a small service fee.

My United States based Credit Union uses an excellent exchange rate and neither they or the ATM's I use in Costa Rica charge me any fees. I think you need to find another bank. I gave up on the commercial banks many years ago and use a Credit Union exclusively, have never regretted that decision.

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Western Union was charged in a class action suit with taking the float of exchange rates and keeping the difference. If you call them now they have a recording that basically tells you that. As if charging $25 per $100 sent wasn't enough of a rip-off.


The story of tracking down the problem with ATM fees reminds me of a story.

Seems this blonde bimbo went to the doctor complaining of pain.
The doctor asked her where it hurt? She touched her leg and said, "When I do this, I feel pain."
Then she touched her arm and said, "And when I touch here I feel pain."
She then touched her head and it was the same thing.

The doctor said, "I've got it, your finger is broken."


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The Credit Card Travel Skewer
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Wednesday, March 9, 2005

Use your credit card while traveling abroad and you'll be hit with a "foreign currency conversion fee." In the past, that roughly 3 percent charge wasn't always spelled out in monthly bills and likely slipped past the notice of many cardholders.

Beginning in April, the fee will be made clearer by banks in response to Visa and MasterCard changing how the conversion system works.

But don't expect a detailed explanation -- or any explanation -- as to why banks add their own fee on top of what the credit card companies are charging.

"Visa and MasterCard are doing all the work," said Linda Sherry, a spokeswoman for Consumer Action in Washington. "The banks aren't doing anything. For them, it's pure profit."

For years, Visa and MasterCard have levied a 1 percent fee for credit card purchases abroad. Buy a $100 sweater in Paris, say, and the companies would charge $1 to convert the transaction for billing purposes from euros to greenbacks.

"We manage hundreds of currencies," explained Sharon Gamsin, a MasterCard vice president. "There are costs to it."

Fair enough. But how do banks issuing MasterCards (or Visa cards, for that matter) justify tacking on another $2 to that $100 sweater purchase, as is typically the case, in the form of an extra 2 percent charge?

"That's something the banks choose to do," Gamsin replied. "We won't comment on it."

Similarly, Rhonda Bentz, a Visa USA vice president, insisted that any charges levied by the banks are the banks' business alone. "I couldn't begin to tell you what the money goes for," she said.

Betty Riess, a spokeswoman for Bank of America, acknowledged that a 2 percent bank fee is added to the 1 percent charged by credit card companies for overseas transactions. But she declined to say why.

"We don't get into specific components of pricing," Riess said. "That would be proprietary."

Citibank also charges an additional 2 percent for using your plastic abroad. But Janis Tarter, a spokeswoman for the bank, was unable to say what exactly that fee covers.

As for Wells Fargo, it too cuts itself in for 2 percent of the action when cardholders roam the world. But the bank is as reticent as its peers when it comes to what customers get in return.

"As a normal course of business, Wells Fargo evaluates its pricing and rate structures from time to time," a spokeswoman offered by e-mail. "Market conditions and changes in the cost of doing business have a bearing on when we adjust our prices and rates."

Um, OK.

Beginning next month, Visa is switching from charging 1 percent above and beyond any currency conversion costs to charging 1 percent simply for using your credit card in another country.

Visa's Bentz explained that this will ensure that all participating financial institutions are supporting the international payment system.

It just so happens, though, that the change will allow Visa to also reap its fee even when a transaction abroad is denominated in dollars, without any currency conversion involved.

For its part, MasterCard will begin separating its conversion fee from the purchase price, rather than coupling them together, so that banks (and, in theory, cardholders) will have a better sense of how much they're really paying.

But don't expect your monthly bill to specify anything other than that a fee was charged. (And even then, you might have to look closely. Citibank's statements, for example, will have a line indicating "Purchases*Finance charge*Foreign trans.")

"The fee either provides a service for consumers or it doesn't provide a service," said Consumer Action's Sherry. "It's a real mystery what the banks' fee does."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... e=business


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:59 pm 
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Very interesting article indeed. Being a frequent traveler abroad and having talked with other travelers, we kind of suspect that the banking industry has so many hidden fees that the general public are not aware of. (no offense to those who work for the banking institutions, but you know it's true). Sadly we can't live without them so we must chose the lesser of the evil ones. :roll: :twisted:

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As for Wells Fargo, it too cuts itself in for 2 percent of the action when cardholders roam the world. But the bank is as reticent as its peers when it comes to what customers get in return.

"As a normal course of business, Wells Fargo evaluates its pricing and rate structures from time to time," a spokeswoman offered by e-mail. "Market conditions and changes in the cost of doing business have a bearing on when we adjust our prices and rates."



Based on the costs and lousy exchange rate Wells Fargo nailed Vegas 7-11 for is it any wonder that they are reticent to discuss their charges. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:37 pm 
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I have travelled with nothing but cash with TVCs and CC as emergency funds. I only use my atm card in MX. In Dom Rep, I only take cash, and use a CC for the hotel. Cash is king, if you securely isolate it from undesirables.If you cannot do that...do not leave your home. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:48 am 
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Ding Dong you are absolutely right, it is the Wells Fargo bank. Next time pure USA before I leave the states and no exchange fees or extra charges.


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