D2864 wrote:
My friend is 43, she has a 23 year old beautiful niece too. I do know without even asking that she would not want her niece phucking or touching any 43 year old man.
That is a HUGELY westernized idea that is not replicated much outside of the USA. Outside of the USA, an older man is viewed as more stable, less horn-doggy, and more considerate. Your friend is here in CA -- OF COURSE she will not think, and color her niece's opinion not to be with a 43-year-old. She is Americanized, and has probably twisted her niece to the same ideas. Hopefully her niece won't end up with a 23-year-old LA gangsta punk, but HEY, if they're the same age, it must be a match made in heaven! Here in the USA, a 43-year-old with a 20-something is worse than a murderer -- I wrote about this earlier.
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I'm curious about the etc. and the flag down parts. what's your opinion of non-pros in England, France, Germany, Spain, Canada, Japan, Korea, Italy? What do you think their attitude is toward their own countrymen.... flag them down, ask them if they'd like dinner and a few drinks then off to bed with them? Is it that easy in those countries as well?
England, France, Germany(?), Spain(?), Canada(?), Italy are pretty much the same attitude as the USA, Western Europe has the same attitude as the USA. Women view men with total disdain. What can you do for me? Can you pass my test? What makes you so special? You had better take me out on 5 or 6 dates, you had better be hot, you had better spend a lot of money on me -- then, I'll roll the dice... if it's a 2 or 12, I'll think about letting you sleep with me. Korea is OK, actually. Japan is 50/50, there are a lot of social issues there.
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i lived in Europe for 5 years and I know non pros are the same there as they are in the USA. i might get some because they are infatuated with a foreigner, but other than that, I had to work my way into their pants just like any American woman.
You missed out. Eastern european are not like that at all, and I have had great luck there, just by acting like a civilized gentleman. I never had to "work my way" into their pants. They simply responded with intense attraction to a decent guy who treated them well.
Srilm wrote:
in the Hotel Ukraina in Moscow there is a bar off the lobby. There is no door, just about a 10-foot wide opening that you can see directly through into the bar from the check-in desk. It's a fully functioning strip club after 8pm at night. This is not a monger hotel. It's an upscale, elegant hotel that caters to western tourists and business-people. This is common in other hotels around the world as well.
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caters to westerns so not a hotel for regular homeland folks, strip club after 8pm and you don't think it is a mongering hotel. Really? the strippers on the stage and the other women that frequent the bar after 8pm are there for what, just a good time? The women's attitude is "buy me a couple drinks and i'll Phuck you all night all in your room for nothing?" Really? You serious?
Absolutely. They don't put these clubs in the locals hotels because the locals treat their women like shit. These girls want to be in these hotels, they are not looking for mongers, they are looking for decent guys that want to be with a decent woman. I actually freaked the first time I saw it, but my girlfriend at the time was like "no, it's normal, guys want to look at a beautiful woman". We sat down and had a few drinks, watched the show. Your attitude (no offense) shows a completely american-woman-programmed attitude, an artificial assumption based on an entirely americanized idea -- an idea forced into your head by american women to program you to view women as they think that you should.
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what makes this a confusing conversation is that i'm not sure you are saying non p4p are super easy to everyone including their own countrymen or to the foreigner who is flagging them down for lunch, club visit and then hot sex at the end of the night.
they are super-easy. most of these girls i tell we are not going on a date until after we have sex. zero or one dates is my limit. after that she is not getting any more of my attention. but it's not "user" sex. it's about 2 people having a good time together. again, you got to get rid of that dumb-ass american puritanical idea that sex is a bad thing. i simply am not going to be used in the opposite direction. it's good sex, for both parties.
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Foreigner or countrymen, if getting laid were so easy with non-p4p types in these countries you speak of why in the Phuck is there a p4p industry? It makes no sense.
the p4p industry exists for fantasy only. even in CR, the tico can have sex any time that he wants. the p4p is there so that he can go out on his lunch break and just Phuck a nameless girl. this exists everywhere.
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Seems to me you just need more income and then that "repressive" thing would be a thing in the past.
Exactly! Rich people in the USA would not see it as repressed at all. Here it is all "what can you do for me?" You have enough cash? The sex thing becomes a non-issue. The USA is all about repressed, illegal, have-enough-cash, sex.
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You say you lived in these countries for a while. I think you should have immersed yourself in the locals' culture. I have spent the past 20 years living 150+ days per year on foreign soil, and I DO NOT try to live like an American there. I live like the locals. USA culture is INFERIOR in SO MANY ways to the rest of the world. Immerse yourself and embrace the world culture. It is far better than ours, in most cases.
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if i gave "Srlim" 2 million dollars, and a car that cost 400,000 dollars, i doubt you would be thinking the US is sexually repressed. After one trip to a vegas strip club that officially isn't a p4p club, you'd have no problem leaving with one of those hot 19 year olds that dance in the clubs there.
srilm is worth far more than 2 million dollars (and here are the cars:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14468&p=398992&hilit=f430#p398992 -- just added a mclaren) and he thinks vegas strip clubs are some of the worst on the planet -- phony girls, lackluster performance, abysmal personalities -- i live in san diego and go to vegas at least once a month. The 19-year-olds in the non-p4p clubs there are worthless. This is exactly the point I'm making -- in the USA you NEED that 2 mil and $400K car to think the USA is not sexually repressed. You can't just be a decent human being and be swarmed by 20-somethings for that, unlike many other countries.
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