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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:26 pm 
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New Jersey Legislators Take on the TSA

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TSA Do Sex To Me.avi

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Warning to TSA Agents in San Mateo: If You Touch Our Junk You'll Be Prosecuted
SAN MATEO COUNTY, Calif. (KGO) -- The San Mateo district attorney's office has a warning for all TSA personnel at SFO -- anyone inappropriately touching a passenger during a security pat down will be prosecuted.

Incoming San Mateo DA Steve Wagstaffe says any complaints of inappropriate touching during an airport security pat down will land on his desk.

"The case would be reviewed and if we could prove the elements of it, that it was inappropriately done with a sexual or lewd intent, that person would be prosecuted," he said.

The charge -- sexual battery.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...ula&id=7793386


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:44 pm 
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Ok, I can feel where you are coming from with that one LaDiablo. I don't have any K*ds but can imagine I would go psycho under those circumstances. Seeing as they aren't actual law enforcement, surprised someone hasn't had enough and waited for an agent to get off work.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:08 pm 
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This article about Israelification is from a year ago but some may find it interesting; it discusses how Israel manages airport security.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:30 pm 
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Most TSA employees are otherwise unemployable morons, in other words perfectly suited to work under Janet Napolitano- an incompetent idiot that has been a failure from the start.


Stop mincing words, Paco.... :lol: :lol: :lol:





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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Look I travel once every 4 to 6 weeks and I am not trying to be insenstive to any guy who has a 15 year daughter going thru the line. But frankly I have not seen any security dude gropping a young girl or a dude for that matter. out of 100's of times. I really think that is so far the exception than the rule. What I see in the 8 security checks each month is, I wait in line for is some, no several idiots, ahead of me not knowing that you need to get your metal sh@t out of your pockets and your belt, jacket and your shoes off BEFORE you get to the scanning decvice. That the large bottle of water or juice is not going to make it. Why because this is new since 3 yeras ago??????? That my friend is a WTF moment. You need to only wacth the sheep ahead of you. But NO, they wait until the last ,minute and then start the process. WTF, that is why I ask about the 1st rodeo.

If I was a security dude and I had to face the onslot of idiots everyday I would pretend I dont speak or read. We are the dumb a$$es not them. Watch the next time you are in line and listen to how many times the security person say have your ID and boarding pass out and then look how many times you have to wait 10 more seconds for the dummy in front of you to pull it out. Now multiply that times the 1,000's they see each day.

I understand all the hoop la about rights. But what I see is that in most places Americans still dont see that security is more important, than your individual rights. I am flying with/next to you if you dont want to show that you are clean or want to go, go F' yourself and fly on your own private jet. For me I have no issue with the rules no matter how much they change. I am not for posting a rule book for the ones that break the rules. Let them be surprised, not me mid flight!!!! Grab me, search me, xray me as they do leaving Cartagena. I would rather arrive alive than defend some BS right that those against us dont respesct anyway. Now pull you head out and choose.

What I see in the lines is a guy who is told to search you and looks at me and says sorry dude it is my job. Dont like it but at least give me the attaboy for trying.

They have never come close to my junk and I doubt its coming to me in the future. Is there the odd ball out there????? yes, and the rules dont matter to him so lets move on and prosecute the few prev's, not the norm.

And lets look at my rights to arrive alive. If that means your K*D gets frisked????? and subjected to something uncomfortable, send them on a train or bus. Then they will learn about prev's. Am I right or wrong to want to arrive alive? Are your K*ds or me more important? Not to me. Remember they are recuiting young dumb K*ds?!!!? Whos rights are more valuable? Mine to arrive alive or your basemnet K*D to be not molested? Stuff sucks.....

Bring it on....... I am still the most important person to me.!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:34 pm 
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Goingsouthsoon wrote:
I understand all the hoop la about rights.
I don't think you do.
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But what I see is that in most places Americans still dont see that security is more important, than your individual rights.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

-- Benjamin Franklin


Good ol' Ben was spot on about this one.

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I bow to the man from Miami and Ben. I am a frequent qouter of Mr. Franklin in my real life

But still feel there is some small value to my comment about the "stupid" people in front of me. I guess my question becomes ..... Are thier rights more valuable, than mine?


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Goingsouthsoon wrote:
I bow to the man from Miami and Ben. I am a frequent qouter of Mr. Franklin in my real life

But still feel there is some small value to my comment about the "stupid" people in front of me.

No doubt!! There are dumb people everywhere.

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I went to an airport in the US and they directed me to the super-scanner. I told them I wasn’t going to go in there so they said I would be given the super-pat down. No problem I said, but I don’t want that guy giving me the pat down; pointing to a fairly hot T-chick, I said I wanted her to give the pat down. :lol: :lol:

My guess is that this flap and the switch in the make-up of the Congress is going to lead to some major changes at TSA over the next year. My guess is there will be a significant move to contract private security companies to take over the screening process at some airports.

At this time, the only airport I know of that has private security instead of TSA is Kansas City, MO (MCI). To my knowledge they have never had T-S-A but I always had private security.


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I went to an airport in the US and they directed me to the super-scanner. I told them I wasn’t going to go in there so they said I would be given the super-pat down. No problem I said, but I don’t want that guy giving me the pat down; pointing to a fairly hot T-chick, I said I wanted her to give the pat down. :lol: :lol:

My guess is that this flap and the switch in the make-up of the Congress is going to lead to some major changes at TSA over the next year. My guess is there will be a significant move to contract private security companies to take over the screening process at some airports.

At this time, the only airport I know of that has private security instead of TSA is Kansas City, MO (MCI). To my knowledge they have never had T-S-A but I always had private security.


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My guess is that this flap and the switch in the make-up of the Congress is going to lead to some major changes at TSA over the next year.

GOP will make major changes? Isn't the GOP largely responsible fot the current situation?

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My guess is there will be a significant move to contract private security companies to take over the screening process at some airports.

Privatization - from the frying pan to the fire: "No security check! No lines! No waiting! Just sign up for our A+++ corporate traveler program for an annual fee!"

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I am flying tomorrow, I cant wait for someone to touch my junk, for FREE!!! I usually pay at least $50 for that =) get it while its hot

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Goingsouthsoon wrote:
Look I travel once every 4 to 6 weeks and I am not trying to be insenstive to any guy who has a 15 year daughter going thru the line. But frankly I have not seen any security dude gropping a young girl or a dude for that matter. out of 100's of times. I really think that is so far the exception than the rule. What I see in the 8 security checks each month is, I wait in line for is some, no several idiots, ahead of me not knowing that you need to get your metal sh@t out of your pockets and your belt, jacket and your shoes off BEFORE you get to the scanning decvice. That the large bottle of water or juice is not going to make it. Why because this is new since 3 yeras ago??????? That my friend is a WTF moment. You need to only wacth the sheep ahead of you. But NO, they wait until the last ,minute and then start the process. WTF, that is why I ask about the 1st rodeo.

If I was a security dude and I had to face the onslot of idiots everyday I would pretend I dont speak or read. We are the dumb a$$es not them. Watch the next time you are in line and listen to how many times the security person say have your ID and boarding pass out and then look how many times you have to wait 10 more seconds for the dummy in front of you to pull it out. Now multiply that times the 1,000's they see each day.

I understand all the hoop la about rights. But what I see is that in most places Americans still dont see that security is more important, than your individual rights. I am flying with/next to you if you dont want to show that you are clean or want to go, go F' yourself and fly on your own private jet. For me I have no issue with the rules no matter how much they change. I am not for posting a rule book for the ones that break the rules. Let them be surprised, not me mid flight!!!! Grab me, search me, xray me as they do leaving Cartagena. I would rather arrive alive than defend some BS right that those against us dont respesct anyway. Now pull you head out and choose.

What I see in the lines is a guy who is told to search you and looks at me and says sorry dude it is my job. Dont like it but at least give me the attaboy for trying.

They have never come close to my junk and I doubt its coming to me in the future. Is there the odd ball out there????? yes, and the rules dont matter to him so lets move on and prosecute the few prev's, not the norm.

And lets look at my rights to arrive alive. If that means your K*D gets frisked????? and subjected to something uncomfortable, send them on a train or bus. Then they will learn about prev's. Am I right or wrong to want to arrive alive? Are your K*ds or me more important? Not to me. Remember they are recuiting young dumb K*ds?!!!? Whos rights are more valuable? Mine to arrive alive or your basemnet K*D to be not molested? Stuff sucks.....

Bring it on....... I am still the most important person to me.!!!!


Yeah, people with no individual liberty have lots of personal security, just ask anyone in North Korea. Oh, wait, you can't. They have so much personal security, they are not allowed to talk to anyone. Just messing with you man, but seriously, there are a lot less intrusive ways to insure your security; profile. All Muslims aren't international terrorists, but unfortunately, all international terrorists in at least the last 10 years have been Muslims. :Look to the Israeli who have to do it right the 1st and every time. be :D Otherwise, the next time a Muslim terrorist hides C4 in his ass and smuggles it thru an airport TSA will institute body cavity searches. :lol:



NAPOLITANO: THE BALL’S IN MY COURT NOW
by Ann Coulter
November 17, 2010

After the 9/11 attacks, when 19 Muslim terrorists -- 15 from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates and one each from Egypt and Lebanon, 14 with "al" in their names -- took over commercial aircraft with box-cutters, the government banned sharp objects from planes.

Airport security began confiscating little old ladies' knitting needles and breaking the mouse-sized nail files off of passengers' nail clippers. Surprisingly, no decrease in the number of hijacking attempts by little old ladies and manicurists was noted.

After another Muslim terrorist, Richard Reid, AKA Tariq Raja, AKA Abdel Rahim, AKA Abdul Raheem, AKA Abu Ibrahim, AKA Sammy Cohen (which was only his eHarmony alias), tried to blow up a commercial aircraft with explosive-laden sneakers, the government prohibited more than 3 ounces of liquid from being carried on airplanes.

All passengers were required to take off their shoes for special security screening, which did not thwart a single terrorist attack, but made airport security checkpoints a lot smellier.

After Muslim terrorist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab of Nigeria tried to detonate explosive material in his underwear over Detroit last Christmas, the government began requiring nude body scans at airports.

The machines, which cannot detect chemicals or plastic, would not have caught the diaper bomber. So, again, no hijackers were stopped, but being able to see passengers in the nude boosted the morale of airport security personnel by 22 percent.

After explosives were inserted in two ink cartridges and placed on a plane headed to the United States from the Muslim nation of Yemen, the government banned printer cartridges from all domestic flights, resulting in no improvement in airport security, while requiring ink cartridges who traveled to take Amtrak.

So when the next Muslim terrorist, probably named Abdul Ahmed al Shehri, places explosives in his anal cavity, what is the government going to require then? (If you're looking for a good investment opportunity, might I suggest rubber gloves?)

Last year, a Muslim attempting to murder Prince Mohammed bin Nayef of Saudi Arabia blew himself up with a bomb stuck up his anus. Fortunately, this didn't happen near an airport, or Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano would now be requiring full body cavity searches to fly.

You can't stop a terrorist attack by searching for the explosives any more than you can stop crime by taking away everyone's guns.

In the 1970s, liberal ideas on crime swept the country. Gun owners were treated like criminals while actual criminals were coddled and released. If only we treated criminals with dignity and respect and showed them the system was fair, liberals told us, criminals would reward us with good behavior.

As is now well known, crime exploded in the '70s. It took decades of conservative law-and-order policies to get crime back to near-1950s levels.

It's similarly pointless to treat all Americans as if they're potential terrorists while trying to find and confiscate anything that could be used as a weapon. We can't search all passengers for explosives because Muslims stick explosives up their anuses. (Talk about jobs Americans just won't do.)

You have to search for the terrorists.

Fortunately, that's the one advantage we have in this war. In a lucky stroke, all the terrorists are swarthy, foreign-born, Muslim males. (Think: "Guys Madonna would date.")

This would give us a major leg up -- if only the country weren't insane.

Is there any question that we'd be looking for Swedes if the 9/11 terrorists, the shoe bomber, the diaper bomber and the printer cartridge bomber had all been Swedish? If the Irish Republican Army were bombing our planes, wouldn't we be looking for people with Irish surnames and an Irish appearance?

Only because the terrorists are Muslims do we pretend not to notice who keeps trying to blow up our planes.

It would be harder to find Swedes or Irish boarding commercial airliners in the U.S. than Muslims. Swarthy foreigners stand out like a sore thumb in an airport. The American domestic flying population is remarkably homogenous. An airport is not a Sears department store.

Only about a third of all Americans flew even once in the last year, and only 7 percent took more than four round trips. The majority of airline passengers are middle-aged, middle-class, white businessmen with about a million frequent flier miles. I'd wager that more than 90 percent of domestic air travelers were born in the U.S.

If the government did nothing more than have a five-minute conversation with the one passenger per flight born outside the U.S., you'd need 90 percent fewer Transportation Security Administration agents and airlines would be far safer than they are now.

Instead, Napolitano just keeps ordering more invasive searches of all passengers, without exception -- except members of Congress and government officials, who get VIP treatment, so they never know what she's doing to the rest of us.

Two weeks ago, Napolitano ordered TSA agents to start groping women's breasts and all passengers' genitalia -- Ch*ldren, nuns and rape victims, everyone except government officials and members of Congress. (Which is weird because Dennis Kucinich would like it.)

"Please have your genitalia out and ready to be fondled when you approach the security checkpoint."

This is the punishment for refusing the nude body scan for passengers who don't want to appear nude on live video or are worried about the skin cancer risk of the machines -- risks acknowledged by the very Johns Hopkins study touted by the government.

It is becoming increasingly obvious that we need to keep the government as far away from airport security as possible, and not only because Janet Napolitano did her graduate work in North Korea.

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Srilm wrote:
So the point is:

Nobody sane and non-terroristific is opposed to security measures that WORK. There are some minor privacy issues that are overidden by public security, but we've gone overboard.

STOP fondling little girls
START Israelizing security in the USA -- look for suspicious people
STOP doing the Secret Service's and CBP's job
START doing YOUR (TSA's) job -- secure transport

To those who say we need to get over our privacy concerns -- I say get over your PC concerns

If you're willing to let a little girl go through the nude-o-scope, then you should be equally willing to let a single male arab-looking traveler whose name has "al" in it to be profiled. After all, his privacy is nothing compared to your personal security, right?

When's the last time El-Al had a successful terror event on one of their aircraft? Their system WORKS.

It's the PERSON that is the problem -- not his pocketknife, not his shampoo, not his gummy bears

SR

Well said SR. Profiling doesn't mean targeting only by race or religion but by travel history & habits, background, age, behavior, etc. Instead of looking only for bombs and weapons they look for bad guys. Even airport janitors are trained to watch people and their behavior.

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You have to search for the terrorists.
D'oh!

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You can't stop a terrorist attack by searching for the explosives any more than you can stop crime by taking away everyone's guns.
D'oh!


And the Second Amendment zealots make an appearance... :)

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