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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:32 pm 
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MrLasVegas wrote:
Your negotiation strategy is lacking a bit. I learned to negotiate years ago working in China. This strategy works wonders as well with chicas as anything else you purchase or rent. It did great for me in Beijing, Bangkok,Madrid,Toronto,Las Vegas, and all points in between.
So here it is.

Stage One- Rapport building.
You seem to be doing well in this area. Speaking the local lingo helps alot. For those that don't. Be friendly, polite,etc. Compliment her as applicable.If you do not speak the lingo, carry a handy phrase book with you. Makes a great statement about yourself and chicas everywhere enjoy helping you with their language. Those that run away quickly were rateras anyway. So you can use this as a screening tool. Females are instinctive learners and teachers, so most worth spending time with will enjoy teaching you a few words.
Stage Two-negocios
So you learned how to say Hola, saw dee krup, or whatever the local phrase is. Now you want to session. So where to start? My hard core number one rule? NEVER,NEVER,EVER ask how much. Take cuanta questa out of your vocabulary. You know how much. You have done your homework on CRT, TJ Amigos, Pattaya Pages, etc. You knew how much you would spend before you set one toe in the bar. If not you should have. So you start with your negocios. Unlike with anything else, their is such a thing as going too low. Female ego is in play. So I start simply. As a side note I have slipped into the conversation before negotiating a brief discussion on what I like done and like to do. If you have any deal killers, make sure she is up for what you want to do.
You say one simple line. For me it is "30k colones stabien por uno hora? Now you have set the bar. I always say it directly, fluidly without the least hesitation. And look into her eyes. It sets a strong position for yourself. this is where her ego comes into play. Say she suggests 45k colones. I will counter with 35k with a polite smile. Usually they will take this.95% will. Some may say cien anyway, those I politely say no gracias to. I will never go higher than 40k. Ever.
The basic psychology is simple. You want a good value, she needs her ego intact and feel like she comes out ahead in the negotiation. This accomplishes that. Give her the opportunity she will always say cien. Why not ask for the moon? And when you are dragging prices from the cien she thinks she is worth, to say $60, feels like quite a blow and her ego gets a bit bruised. So do that everywhere you monger and you will be better off.
I've looked for (and found) women in dozens of countries around the world. This advice is perfect.

I agree that offering $40 to someone asking $100 is pretty insulting. Furthermore, and this is something I haven't seen stated previously here, even if a woman agrees to go with you for some low-ball amount, she won't be happy about it, and you'll feel the difference between a reasonably happy girl and an unhappy one. We don't expect true GFE, but we do expect both parties to walk away feeling like they got what they came (!) for.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:03 pm 
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Good advice so far. Don't ask how much because you'll get cien about 95% of the time. Make a fair offer and put the decision on her. You can even go $10 below your price and she may counter (with your intended price) and you can hesitantly agree and she'll feel like a winner and will treat you well. If she walks, she'll feel like she's losing a good payday. Walking away from $40 isn't that difficult for the non-desperate ones.

(If you want to pay $80, offer $70 (not $40 :P ) and she'll counter with $80 and you can accept and she'll feel like she won. :lol: )

This is not like buying a used car, haggling doesn't usually work. Low-balling never works and usually just pisses them off. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:13 pm 
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Not to mention the constant focus on dollar amount doesn't bode well for anticipated performance..

If you think of final price as the last thing discussed....the better. :idea:

It seems like timing is a horrible issue with most guys. You know how an MP chica will ask you for a tip when ur rock hard or say a bbbj will be extra when ur pants are on the ground? See, they get timing..


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Good Thread
It is good when a subject gets a fresh look
Old tip but a good one ... Get the girl away from her amigas before you work on the deal


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:39 pm 
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Orange wrote:

This is not like buying a used car, haggling doesn't usually work. Low-balling never works and usually just pisses them off. :lol:


Hey, I own a couple car lots and your statement pisses ME off :evil: :evil: :lol: :lol:


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If you're a used car salesman, you should be used to it by now. :P


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:05 pm 
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And even though it is about the money, the art of seduction can go a long way in getting to the main course. Women like to be seduced.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:20 pm 
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Thirdworld wrote:
And even though it is about the money, the art of seduction can go a long way in getting to the main course. Women like to be seduced.



An understatement to say the least... That's the problem and one of the many reasons why I'm so critical of P4p. Perhaps paying an asking price gives one a sense of entitlement to a great session. I see money being the cause of the aforementioned thought.

Guys never lose your ability to pick up women weather money is envolved or not. Think about how you want it to go in the bedroom. Meeting somewhere in the middle with price and getting a fantastic session is a success, not saving $20 :roll:

I've ranted about this years ago about guys taking responsibility for their own good times, session quality, etc...

I've never heard a good Costa Rica story that started on how dude saved money with chicas..

As of late, Pam seems to be in the news.. Understand she is a pro who knows her value lies in performance.. With that said, for those of you who she rocks their world have admittedly over paid her. The main reason for this must be that she satisfies their session quality and beyond. Her popularity also stems from her being this way regardless of who you are...all this put together keeps her set financially.

I'm getting a bit off track here, but if session quality quietly will always be what keeps us coming back, why not let that be our focus? :|

You either change the way you approach things sometimes or you become just another spoke on the wheel...


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I have a different twist to this. First, during the day, I always say, "I only pay $50 during the day." It always works. I never pay more during the day (except the exception, below). Many times at night I've said, "I only have $50. Will you do it for that?" It has worked many times.

However, and here's where I'm stupid. I have a favorita who quoted me $100 three years ago. She's not worth it sexually, but I like being with her and, after not having been with her for a while, I asked how much, referring to daytime, and she said, "you know how much." Thus I paid $100 for daytime sex. I haven't figured out how to tell her it's too much. Oh well!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:27 pm 
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GooddDay john said "When you offer $40, you have just insulted and demeaned her."
True True
reminded me of post here a few years ago, about a LA female cop working a prostitution string, some guy walked up and offered her $5 and his under wear( why?), instead of arresting him , she started to beat the sh** out him wile yelling " I worth more then 5 dollars" as her back up's where pulling her off the poor guy. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:55 pm 
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Bktuna wrote:
They do not like to barter. You are better off stating I pay $60 or whatever your real number is and let them decide. They will say yes or no and maybe come back. This works better than asking them and then counter offering



Boyd hit the nail on the head. Offer $60 if they say no and walk away there is a 75% chance that they will come back and take the offer. Even on a TLN you will say 6:00am and they will say I can only stay till 3:00. Just say sorry and walk away, they will be back.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:44 pm 
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My friend nothing went wrong. I will tell you this. Costa Ricans in general love the art of trading and bartering. You would rather that they walk away mad then to have them walk away from your room laughing and counting all a dat cash they suckered you out of. Check it. You spend money and time to visit CR.

You don't even have to be in their spot for action. Action is everywhere in CR. It's by choice that you are even in their company. If they walk you have not lost a thing. I have found that the ones that get really upset ain't worth a shit in the sack anyways. Keep your sack tight and negotiate for what your fantasy is. Not theirs?

Some of the funniest shit that I have seen in Key Largo is when after a few dances and drinksthey counter with 80 after failing at 100 and then I say 40! Kodak moment. Depending on the exchange rate youre prolly better off going to one of the MPs for what you like and want for less than fitty dollazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:24 pm 
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Greengo wrote:
Most women girls in shops and groceries are lucky to clear 1/1.50 an hour ...and still have to blow/Phuck the boss every week...the hookers glaze over when i tell em this...its like reality flooding all their gringo pricing bullshit...they got it ..you want it..i usually end up at 25 to 35 in the afternoon at the dr...ps ...dont tell anyone...but theyll take all youll give em :lol:



Priceless info Greengo. Iv'e been paying between $40 - $60 in the mornings and afternoon in the HDR and thought that I was getting a good deal. BTW were you staying at the HDR? Did you take them off premises to a different hotel? Just wondering.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:26 am 
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Maximus62 wrote:
Greengo wrote:
Most women girls in shops and groceries are lucky to clear 1/1.50 an hour ...and still have to blow/Phuck the boss every week...the hookers glaze over when i tell em this...its like reality flooding all their gringo pricing bullshit...they got it ..you want it..i usually end up at 25 to 35 in the afternoon at the dr...ps ...dont tell anyone...but theyll take all youll give em :lol:



Priceless info Greengo. Iv'e been paying between $40 - $60 in the mornings and afternoon in the HDR and thought that I was getting a good deal. BTW were you staying at the HDR? Did you take them off premises to a different hotel? Just wondering.

FYI-If you are a tourist (read: you don't live in CR), you are not getting anybody for $25-35 at the DR.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:45 am 
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IMHO hit a massage place in the afternoon. Then go to the DR. My thought is you get that first nut out of the way. Then you can think more clear about whats in your front pockets(cash) than whats between them (hard dick). If you dont mind me saying to the orginal poster your starting the game a bit early. Once you start this hobby it is no looking back. Be carefull of you wish for.You may get it.


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