www.CostaRicaTicas.com

I've been to HDR 4 times and I've noticed that I've been having trouble getting good erections. One time I even got soft while having intercourse.

I'm 23 years old and don't have any problem getting strong erections on my own or with women when there's a lot of foreplay.

However, when it comes to these HDR chicas, I've been having problems, even though they are some of the hottest women I've ever seen. I believe the reason for this is that I prefer sex to be very passionate and with lots of kissing. I like women to give themselves to me.

Can anyone relate to this?

How can I negotiate this before hand? I'm very shy so I don't know how to flirt a lot or make these girls laugh. I usually don't know what to say so I go straight to the point and negotiate in less than 5 minutes.

Brutally honest first post, guy--thanks for sharing. I'd personally leave the indies alone and try an MP--HLH comes to mind. General level of jollity there may make all the difference. Or maybe the Sportsmen's Lodge, for a chance to be around more empathetic guys who can give you some advice on the Chicas to ease the negotiating process (I'm a bit shy myself and find the process a bit daunting). Look here in the "Girls" Forum for details on some individual Chicas--that may be open only to paid Members but that's a good idea anyway. That $39 for a years membership will get returned in the form of discounts, there's greater access here and The Monger Map to find your way around. Also upon your doctor's advice even though you are younger, maybe an ED drug might help also (be careful with those though--they are an artificial means of getting/maintaining an erection.).

_________________
"A man accustomed to hear only the echo of his own sentiments, soon bars all the common avenues of delight, and has no part in the general gratification of mankind"--Dr. Johnson
"Amen, brother"-ED

me too!


and I am even younger.

what you are looking for is a GFE (girl friend experience)....it is hard to find in the play for pay world...but, when you find it, you will remember it fondly.

I often carry about bags of tangerines (or whatever fruit is in season)...I find an offer of a tangerine helps break the ice...especially if you also hand them a 10,000 colone note to use as a napkin (they are used to small napkins).

ultimately, I will take matters into my own hand if necessary

_________________
The difference between a Sea Story and a Fairy Tale is that a Fairy Tale starts out 'Once Upon a Time..' and a Sea Story starts out 'This is no Shit...'

(export version only, some restrictions may apply, some assembly required, not valid where the sun don't shine...

if you live in the states of Poverty, Darkness or anywhere outside of The Blessings of Civilization Trust, Inc...other rules may apply)

My good fellow:

I applaud your self-disclosure and the recognition that the issue is yours.

Bluntly.....try to remember what is going on in your BRAIN when the stuff starts becoming flaccid; follow that thought....and you'll have your answer.

And, too, do NOT feel alone.....I too require some semblance of "something" or the stuff just don't work and I approach 40 years your senior.....and I make no apologies for it....nor should you....."foreplay" is, essentially, Pure D BOGUS in the pay for pusssie game......there simply isn't any except for the very rare "GFE" that is glowingly written about in this "forum". I say BULL ROAR to those that claim that the bulk of their purchased time is a Girl Friend Experience. It just ain't....and that's an aspect of pay for pusssie that ya gotta get used to or stop.

Anyone with an ounce of humanity STOPS for a time after recognizing that pay for pusssie is a shallow, hollow, meaningless excursion into the world of the nether regions that men go.....and I include combat duty in that arena.....it is NOT life affirming.....it is NOT satisfying.....it is NOT gratifying.....it IS hollow at best.

You can fool yourself all you want....but it still is what is.....and there is NOTHING.....repeat....NOTHING the same as a woman GIVING you a piece of pusssieee......ass.....whatever......NOTHING......paying for it is a FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR distant "runner up". Again....it is what it is.....and after one grasps this reality.....it becomes "better".....but NEVER......repeat NEVER.....the same as being GIVENNNNNNNNN.....a piece.

That's a fack, Jack......affiant further sayeth naught.....


PS: If you ejaculate.....it was a successful mission........anything else is "icing".....so to speak.......such is the life of those that choose the pay for pussssieee way of life........ya pay 'em to leave.......AND every ONCE in a while....one actually CAN CLICK with a certain type or person........just always remember it's always PAY FOR PUSSSIIIEEEEE.......no more and no less.......

Now step up to the batters' box.....and start swinging......there is no "3 strikes and you're out...." nonsense in this ball game.....keep facing new pitchers and you'll be pleasantly surprised.....some will actually pitch to the sweet spot where you can hit the ball for mulitiple bases......even home runs......just remember at all times.....IT IS PAY FOR PUSSSIEEE.......

_________________
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Yes, S1 has it 100% straight up. There can be confusion on the guys part when clicking with a chica. She is doing her job, may enjoy the company, but it is a job. And there are times when there is more involvement of the lady (sometimes not really working), but more of an exception than the norm. MP's are not the way to go to fulfill your needs. I go to MP's and look for a face I like (could even remind me of a chica back home, porn star, whatever the reason), and get my BBBJ. Others go to fulfill other needs (PSE, $, known service), whatever the reason, it is an hour (or 1/2).

How can you negotiate this? Don't know that you do. You make sure she knows you want to kiss but how do you negotiate passionately, don't know. Sportsmans is a better place to meet a girl like this but they are also at the HDR. Just the HDR has more hard selling.

Unfortunately, I believe you are going to have to rely on luck. But, try just talking to a chica you like and not session with her. Let her know up front so she can still conduct her business. Do it a couple of times. Don't start buying her dinners and don't start getting jealous when she takes off for business. If you can't control yourself, don't attempt it. You will lose. I have talked with a few chicas over a few trips and had them later on. It was passionate but it was still biz. Cool with me.

Don't know if it was any help. Maybe you should try finding the girl named Maria .

Dean

_________________
my first wingman sent me this, how true

" most of the girls down here, lie as a self defense mechanism and to not have to face the truth, thinking most men couldn't accept them knowing the whole truth. Simpler, they may just want men to think they are as perfect as they want to appear to them, trying to hide what they consider to be the ugly truth about themselves. And I may be reading more into it than is there, but I do believe they consider the basis of the lies to be justified."

Maybe its as simple as trying a different destination.
Pretty near all of Asia is geared toward a "rent a girlfriend" type venue. They play the role to a tee, and its essentially everything you'd want your girlfriend to do, and nothing you wouldnt.

Also, places like Sosua its almost the norm to have the girl hanging out, fooling around for an afternoon or the night if you desire, and I believe Medellin is sort of the same setup.

Costa Rica of all places is very much geared toward the quick, short time experience. Its just how the scene has molded. For some it works, for others it leaves alot to be desired.

For sure though, you would not be the first guy or lone active member to find greener pastures in a different place.

Disclaimer: 23 also.

I am much older than you so I have a different attitude about this. But if you are having trouble getting or keeping it up why can't you do what the older guys do. Take vitamin V or C. There's not minimum age to do this. There no shame in it either.

No shame I say. I'm 35 years old and don't have problems with erections at all until the drink consumes me! lol! That's when help from a pill comes in handy. It gives me the boost I need. Too much I think at times.....

Translova,

you don't really say it in your post, but if you can speak some Spanish (even a little), it makes a lot of difference. Even if you're kind of shy, you can always play the bumbling tourist & ask for help learning some new words (especialmente las palabras traviesas )

I find that there are lots more gfe-type girls in the Del Rey during the day, but you still have to spend a few minutes talking to them to really know for sure. Like anything else, practice is the key, so force yourself to talk with them & don't worry about being self-conscious. Also, a good rule of thumb is, the hotter the girl, the less likely she is to be gfe, although there are exceptions.

Good luck.

_________________
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

For those not in the know about this (like. for example, me), here's how Wikipedia re-directs you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sildenafil

_________________
"A man accustomed to hear only the echo of his own sentiments, soon bars all the common avenues of delight, and has no part in the general gratification of mankind"--Dr. Johnson
"Amen, brother"-ED

I look at it from a pure scientific view. The sex drive is to pass on genetic material. True happiness can not be found in relationships with people or things, but within our own spirit. I wish I could do that but that requires tremendous practice and discipline, unfortanately not in my life span.

Interesting post. I also am someone who needs foreplay, and who loves the GFE. While some people may find it elusive and very rare, it is not "a fact" that it is hard to get. I think it depends on many factors.

1) The destination and the culture of that destination, i.e. the meaning of sex, passion, sex for money, ect.

2) One's way with people in general and women in particular

3) One's physical apperence

4) One's capacity to be a BFE (Boy Freinds expeirnce). If you don't have a good history with intimacy, how can it not hurt you?

5) Capacity for communication- Do you speak the language well?

6) Skills as a lover

7) Understanding of the game and mongering skills-Yet, it is a skill set that has been talked about for years, and this really is what most talk about "game", at least when it comes to mongering.

8. Willingness to negotiate and hold the line in said negotations, and williness to assertivly and non abusivly say "next"

9) Understanding/feel for women's feelings.

10) Willinness to trust your got on the vibe, and not go soley for looks.

I am sure there are others. Steven may say that it almost never happens, but I have seen many, many people hon their skills and achieve it. So, it is not a FACT, only his perception...

_________________
I said hey baby, take a walk on the wild side.
Lou Reed

There is some good advice here from the brothers but finally you are going to have experiment to find what works for you.

For me I look at what I cannot change and what I can. For instance I cannot change my looks, age or race but I CAN be clean and neat in my appearance and be pleasant and considerate. I CAN treat the girl with respect and try to communicate with her. I look for the way she reacts to me and to what I say and do. For example:

I walk up to her and her expression or body language says " what does this creep want ? " NEXT!

I walk up to her and she smiles and looks me over appraisingly - great! go to the next step. If she seems interested in what you talk about try a joke - if she giggles or smiles it is a good sign that she does not find you disgusting or a smart ass. This type of girl is the kind who is likely to give me a GFE even though it is P4P.

Just an example to suggest how you develop a routine or filter that helps you select the types of girls you are likely to have a GFE with.

_________________
Softbob

There is nothing either good or bad
but thinking makes it so.
HAMLET

Perhaps, and even more so perhaps not. Let us turn to some words from Aldous Huxley:

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception." and, as well, "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."

"Girl Friend Experience" means a human, non-fiduciary experience in my world and that's the most important world there is...what we practice in the p4p arena is a far cry from being GIVEN a piece as a sharing, symbiotic moment in time.

Hank Daman states he's seen, many times, individuals achieving a {validating, self-actualizing moment}Girl Friend Experience with a bird of the night. I assert what he's seen is a projection of what's desired....not what is actually achieved and easily seen once the rose colored glasses are removed. Once upon a time I harbored the illusion that I could purchase the illusion of intimacy with money or other property. I could not finger (pardon the image) what that hollow feeling was all about or where it was coming from until I finally elected to take a cold, hard look at what's what.

I KNOW I have experienced moments of MIGHTY LOVE/INTIMACY. I don't know why they haven't been enough because it's my view that the vast majority live lives of quiet desperation which does not include "...moments of mighty love...." despite the fact they'll say they've been married 40 years and are "happy". Poppycock. I fooled myself into believing that I could purchase that illusion within the p4p scene for a time. I'm glad I no longer fool myself and know such an experience is not purchaseable. p4p is all about the ducats; dumb luck (in choice....."Man she looks fine. Fuucks like a twit though" vs "Well....it was almost like she was giving me a piece and enjoying it.....and she had a great body...." (Yeah, but what did she look like??) "Man, to be honest, had I not been boozed up, I wouldn't have fuccked her with your dick...."; and a modest set of skills acquired after a while in the theatre of action (The primary skill being that of being able to see the forest for the trees....knowing what p4p really is and expecting nothing more from it). Nothing more and nothing less.....*shrug*

_________________
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16