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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:34 pm 
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Got a cheap flight on Cont to SJO in 3 months . Now they are merging with UAL under UAL's name. I'm sure this won't affect my flight. But UAL became a high price carrier after they filed bankruptcy. I hope this dosen't cut out the cheapies I found on Cont.


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hmmm I would bet that prices are stable to down, to get both sets of customers happy with each others airlines, then in the future you bet they will go up (less competition on routes)....the real bummer for the platinum elites on continental is our south american routes will be harder to get upgrades to firstclass on now, because of all the UAL scrubs who are 1k or whatever they use on that airline I personally cant stand UAL from many bad experiences in the past. And UAL is weak in South America so all those frequent fliers will be competing for our seats on those routes....this merger is bad if you are a Continental platinum


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hmmm I would bet that prices are stable to down, to get both sets of customers happy with each others airlines, then in the future you bet they will go up (less competition on routes)....the real bummer for the platinum elites on continental is our south american routes will be harder to get upgrades to firstclass on now, because of all the UAL scrubs who are 1k or whatever they use on that airline I personally cant stand UAL from many bad experiences in the past. And UAL is weak in South America so all those frequent fliers will be competing for our seats on those routes....this merger is bad if you are a Continental platinum


You are right CRsurf. I have not been able to use my miles from United bcs they don't service CR. Now, I have over 200K to use.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:16 am 
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Got a cheap flight on Cont to SJO in 3 months . Now they are merging with UAL under UAL's name. I'm sure this won't affect my flight. But UAL became a high price carrier after they filed bankruptcy. I hope this dosen't cut out the cheapies I found on Cont.


They are using the UAL name but CO is the survivor just as the Air West/USAir merger Air West was the survivor but they used the USAir name.

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I have not been able to use my miles from United bcs they don't service CR. Now, I have over 200K to use.


You should be able to use them as UAL code shares on TACA flights to SJO.

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Anybody know yet if/when CO and UA frequent flier programs will merge?

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:07 am 
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I just used my United miles to fly from and to Costa Rica R/T. My outbound from SJO-LAS is on US Air and the return from ONT-SJO is on Continental: United miles on Star Alliance carriers.


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I was a 1K with United for years, but when they stopped flying to Costa Rica I switched over to Continental.

Flying Continental coach is better than flying United business class. It is all in the attitude and service of the personnel. I hope the United influence doesn’t ruin Continental.


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:22 am 
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Dean wrote:
CRSurftown wrote:
hmmm I would bet that prices are stable to down, to get both sets of customers happy with each others airlines, then in the future you bet they will go up (less competition on routes)....the real bummer for the platinum elites on continental is our south american routes will be harder to get upgrades to firstclass on now, because of all the UAL scrubs who are 1k or whatever they use on that airline I personally cant stand UAL from many bad experiences in the past. And UAL is weak in South America so all those frequent fliers will be competing for our seats on those routes....this merger is bad if you are a Continental platinum


You are right CRsurf. I have not been able to use my miles from United bcs they don't service CR. Now, I have over 200K to use.

Dean

No offense to you Dean , but I have had nothing but bad service and bad experience on United Airlines, also United Airlines does Star Net blocking which limits your ability to use miles on other carriers in the alliance, I would guess they carry over that practice to the merged airlines (true the CO managment will be in charge but they are keeping the UAL name and maybe the ff program), CO was a VERY good airlines with a new fleet and great service and attitude, this merger is nothing but downhill for Continental Platinums....


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:49 pm 
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Srilm wrote:
Continental...

... including... majority ownership of Copa for a still stronger presence




Continental, who owned 49% of COPA at one time, divested their holdings in COPA a few years ago.

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CRSurftown wrote:
hmmm I would bet that prices are stable to down, to get both sets of customers happy with each others airlines, then in the future you bet they will go up (less competition on routes)....the real bummer for the platinum elites on continental is our south american routes will be harder to get upgrades to firstclass on now, because of all the UAL scrubs who are 1k or whatever they use on that airline I personally cant stand UAL from many bad experiences in the past. And UAL is weak in South America so all those frequent fliers will be competing for our seats on those routes....this merger is bad if you are a Continental platinum


You are right CRsurf. I have not been able to use my miles from United bcs they don't service CR. Now, I have over 200K to use.

Dean

No offense to you Dean , but I have had nothing but bad service and bad experience on United Airlines, also United Airlines does Star Net blocking which limits your ability to use miles on other carriers in the alliance, I would guess they carry over that practice to the merged airlines (true the CO managment will be in charge but they are keeping the UAL name and maybe the ff program), CO was a VERY good airlines with a new fleet and great service and attitude, this merger is nothing but downhill for Continental Platinums....


I am with you. I flew United bcs I had to and maintained miles through a visa card. They have the worst attitude from reservations to baggage claim. Being a platinum on United just means you should be used to their arrogant attitude.

I flew CO once to SJ and they were great. I will check TACA as ID suggested.

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CO has been the best airline for me for flights to CR from San Francisco. They have been very good except once I ran into a nasty male flight attendant on a flight from CR to Houston.
I had to catch a 7 a.M. flight out of SJO and so had left my hotel at 4:30 A.M. I had breakfast at the airport. After we took off something in the breakfast gave me a gripe in the stomach and I wanted to use the toilet but the crew was busy serving breakfast and the aisles were blocked. The guy at the back of the plane only had to move the breakfast trolly back 4 rows but would not do it and made me hang on for 15 minutes before letting me through.
I would probably made a big deal about it but as I was just returning from a fantastic 5 days in the gulch I was mellow enough to let it pass.
United is the worst airline flying today and should be avoided at all costs. But the nature of business is such that I very much fear CO's service will be pulled down to UA's dismal level.

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Isra123 wrote:
CO has been the best airline for me for flights to CR from San Francisco.

Isra, I also live in the Bay Area and agree with you. Continental is awesome. However, we got screwed when Continental Airlines stopped flying from the Oakland Airport. OAK-SJO was frequently cheaper than SFO-SJO


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Isra123 wrote:
CO has been the best airline for me for flights to CR from San Francisco.

Isra, I also live in the Bay Area and agree with you. Continental is awesome. However, we got screwed when Continental Airlines stopped flying from the Oakland Airport. OAK-SJO was frequently cheaper than SFO-SJO


Don't worry, UAL will ruin it. They have a competitive advantage with it. :P

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United Air in $3B-plus stock deal for Continental

United Airlines has agreed to buy Continental in a $3 billion-plus deal that would create the world's largest carrier with a commanding position in several top U.S. cities. The new United would surpass Delta Air Lines in size, which should help it attract more high-fare business travelers. It will fly to 370 destinations in 59 countries. Although the United name will live on, and the company will stay in Chicago, it will be run by current Continental CEO Jeffery Smisek. United CEO Glenn Tilton, a longtime advocate of consolidation in the airline industry, will be non-executive chairman for up to two years before Smisek adds the chairman title.

The new parent company will be called United Continental Holdings Inc., and have about $29 billion in annual revenue based on 2009 results and $7.4 billion in unrestricted cash. The airlines said combining would save them $1 billion to $1.2 billion a year by 2013, including between $800 million and $900 million in new yearly revenue. The deal would create a giant with major hubs in key domestic markets including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and San Francisco and an international network stretching from Shanghai to South America. It will leave three big U.S. airlines with major international routes -- the new United, Delta and American Airlines, with US Airways a distant fourth. United is the nation's third-largest carrier by traffic, while Continental Airlines Inc., in Houston, is No. 4. Shares of both companies rose in morning trading Monday. United parent UAL Corp. shares rose 62 cents, or 2.9 percent, to $22.22, while Continental shares rose 63 cents, or 2.8 percent, to $22.98.

Wall Street has pushed consolidation as a way to let airlines raise fares by reducing the number of flights and seats. Smisek and Tilton said in an interview that the deal won't necessarily mean higher fares, but antitrust regulators are expected to scrutinize the transaction. Smisek said that the companies don't assume they can boost prices, but that with a bigger network they can attract more high-paying corporate travelers. Two years ago, Continental walked away from a deal with United at the last moment. Smisek said times have changed since 2008, when both airlines were low on cash and facing record fuel costs. "Both carriers are performing better than they have been for the past couple of years," he said. "The economy is on an upswing. Fuel prices, although high, are manageable." Owners of United parent UAL Corp. will hold 55 percent of the combined company, with Continental shareholders owning the rest. Continental shareholders will get 1.05 UAL shares in exchange for each one of theirs.

Although United is buying Continental, the two carriers are similar in size. Based on Friday's closing stock prices, UAL's had a stock market value of $3.6 billion, while Continental's was $3.1 billion. As for keeping the United name, Tilton told the AP, "The benefit obviously of United Airlines is familiarity in the Pacific and international markets, where it has been a presence longer than Continental." The companies expect to close the deal in the fourth quarter, with approval needed from shareholders and regulators. Labor issues have often been messy in airline consolidation. Smisek and Tilton said they had briefed their unions on the deal. Both companies said their boards had approved the transaction unanimously, which would include a labor representative on the UAL board. Pilots at both airlines are represented by the Air Line Pilots Association. People briefed on the negotiations said the two groups have not started negotiations on a joint contract.

The machinists' union, which represents 16,000 workers at United and more than 10,000 Continental employees, said it was concerned about the impact of the deal on pensions, benefits and job security. Both United and Continental have been losing money first due to higher fuel costs, then a recession. Last year, UAL lost $651 million while Continental lost $282 million. Revenue plunged 19.1 percent at UAL and 17.4 percent at Continental. They have eliminated flights to meet the new, lower demand -- United cut capacity 7.4 percent last year, and Continental shrank 5.2 percent.

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