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If you were 22 with the means to monger, would you?
Hell yeah! I live life to the fullest! 59%  59%  [ 39 ]
No way, this is the time to pull regular chicks. 20%  20%  [ 13 ]
I'd give it a shot, but would be careful not to get too engrossed in it. 21%  21%  [ 14 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:52 am 
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As MH pointed out, the maturity level is probably the major issue as to whether someone (at any age) should monger here or anywhere. Over the years I have met and been around literally thousands of mongers of all ages. From my experience, us "old farts" tend to have more of a maturity problem, especially the first few trips, than do the young guys. Young guys are use to getting layed (usually) by hot young chicas on a more or less regular bases anyway, and do not go as wild and forget all rational when they get here (or any other mongering destination). Us old guys can't get the 20-25 yo hotties at home, have a wife watching our ever move, or have to worry about business associates seeing us with a hottie. Older guys get here and for the first time in many years (maybe ever) have hot 20 yo chicas chasing us, we fall in "love" with everyone of them, and in general make asses out of ourselves trying to pluck like we did when WE were 18!!!

As for myself, almost everyone in my family has an addictive personality--alcoholics, over eaters, workaholics, and then there is me--sexoholic 8) :roll: (Started to put a embarrased smilly here but i am not at all embrassed about my "problem" :lol: :P ) At 18 I went to work in a profession where it was very very easy to have 2, 3 or even 4 different women a week, and that was still not enough for me so for my 20th birthday I took my married father (he had the same addiction) with me on my first mongering trip to Mexico. Did 6 working chicas and 2 non working chicas that week. Found out from 2 of the working chicas that my dad did the same 6!!!!!!!!!! He was 43 at the time.

Mongering is what it is and as long as a guy remembers that and remembers his own physical, emotional, and fianicial limits, the only age limit or requirement should be the one of legality!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Wow this topic is better that sitting in a box talking to a priest at confession. way to go.. One of the best topic ever raised on this board... :D :D :D :D :D :D

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:44 pm 
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Hi guys, thanks a lot for your helpful thoughts & advice. I hope others might continue to chime in because I think this is turning into a thread that will certainly help me and others who read it in the future.

The diversity of responses ("You are still learning how to develop real relationships. Mongering is usually for those who don't want them" vs. "mongering in CR can actually help you put your relationships with gringas into the proper perspective ... you'll have more confidence and self-esteem when dealing with regular relationships afterwards" vs. "If you got the money, you are old enough ... Throw caution to the wind and jump right in... Do it and do it again. It feels good.") basically echoes the debate I'm having between the various parts of my mind. I have a feeling that in the end, after letting this advice sink in, I will probably end up going at least once just to see what it's like at first :) Gawd, the primitive, animalistic core of our psyche can exert such power when it comes to things like this haha.

If I decide to visit, I'll have to pop my P4P cherry here in the States first. Not thrilled about the cost, but if I visit CR as a total P4P newbie, I can imagine a nerve-racking first few experiences which could, potentially, screw things up. I'd rather get over those worries here at home where more things are under my control and, oh, everyone speaks english :)

Lomo you posted, "I am an older guy, and feel that CR is for older guys.' You qualified it by saying it's not *inappropriate* for younger guys to visit, but could you elaborate on why you feel CR is mostly for older fellas? Where are those places that you think are better suited for younger ones?

I'm intrigued by DR & MH's idea of just hanging out at a university/mall and talking to college ticas, but it feels pretty intimidating. How the heck would I even go about that? I guess my fear is simply the general fear of approaching random women, but the language/culture barrier makes it even more daunting… What interest will they have in screwing a gringo on a two week trip to their country anyway?

I'm also concerned about having to keep anything related to mongering under wraps. I hate deception and dishonesty, especially because deceiving others can desensitize you to lying, which in turn makes it easier for you to deceive yourself in general. I understand why it's important (avoiding social stigma, etc). But I hate the idea of having to lie to a future partner about the # of women I'd slept with or the craziest places I had sex, etc. Oh well, just another obstacle to move past.

Anyway thx again for the replies! I have a feeling that it's only a matter of time before I find myself in San Jose again, experience a side I didn't even know existed before! Lil bit nervous, a lot excited :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:05 pm 
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Yea man just go and treat it like any other place. It doesn't have to be anything so different just because its a P4P destination...

Just go and have a great time... :idea: 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:06 pm 
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Lima3000 wrote:
I'm intrigued by DR & MH's idea of just hanging out at a university/mall and talking to college ticas, but it feels pretty intimidating. How the heck would I even go about that? I guess my fear is simply the general fear of approaching random women, but the language/culture barrier makes it even more daunting… What interest will they have in screwing a gringo on a two week trip to their country anyway?

Anyway thx again for the replies! I have a feeling that it's only a matter of time before I find myself in San Jose again, experience a side I didn't even know existed before! Lil bit nervous, a lot excited :wink:


Interesting; so you have visited SJO before. I didn't pick up on this in your first post.

As to talking to regular ticas around your age, it's not hard as long as you speak Spanish and you aren't timid. I'm in my late forties and I've had little trouble approaching young ladies in regular settings like a dance club or a store. It doesn't always work out, but sometimes it does. And it takes a little work, just like back home. Even more so than a gringa, they typically aren't going to fall into bed with you on the first try (or even on the first trip). But you're "planting a seed" as Brother Cujo would say. If nothing else, you might make a new friend.

If you don't speak Spanish, then of course the above doesn't apply. Unless she speaks English, you will be limited in your ability to communicate and "connect" with a regular girl. You could always adopt the caveman approach -- bash 'em over the head with a club and drag 'em away by the hair. ;)

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P.S. I congratulate you on your well thought-out posts and writing. It's not every day one sees it around these parts.

P.P.S. If you do decide to come down to monger, I suggest you join CRT as a VIP member. It'll be the best 39 buck investment you'll make.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:22 pm 
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I got into visiting CR because I was just sick and tired to death of women here. There just aren't very many feminine women here anymore, but women in Latin America know how it is to be a woman and act like women. They know how to charm and they just don't have the "I'm better than any man" attitude you get so often here. If I hadn't already sworn off getting married again, I would have probably married one of my favoritas by now, but I'm not falling for that romance and love till death do us part BS ever again.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Lima3000 wrote:
But I hate the idea of having to lie to a future partner about the # of women I'd slept with or the craziest places I had sex, etc.

Do you feel compelled to tell a potential partner all of the nasty places you've used to take a dump?

In my opinion, total, 100% tell-all honesty in a relationship is VASTLY overrated. I believe this is one of the new-age myths with which gringa feminism has corrupted us. Unless you catch a disease or have a Ch*ld with another woman, what business is it of a future girlfriend/partner how many women you've slept with or where you've done it?

If you really feel strongly about this, then I suggest you reconsider mongering and stick to dating regular gringas. Most gringas won't be very accepting of mongering, period.

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Lima: I recommend you DO NOT pop your P4P cherry in the states. Save your $ and possible hassle of Uncle Leo, and knock out your first 3 or 4 for the price you would have paid one in the States. Ain't no big thing in SJO, no need to be nervous about anything there mai,
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Go see Janet at MP La Mansion. Sweetness, a great massage and Oh, Lord! will you get that P4P cherry popped! I'm an MP kinda guy anyway with the occasional Indie in the mix. Good way to get your,er, feet wet--a confidence-builder for sure.
La Mansion is on our Monger Map, which along with the hotel/restaurant discounts, is a prime reason to join. The SL or Dunn Inn Happy Hours are great too (inexpensive beer/drinks and breezin' with the Bros, maybe even pick up a wingman), and Dunn Inn has a Newbie Info session as well. Also strongly consider engaging the paid wingman services of Brother Pops--he's not a cost but an investment. No joke. You are not alone or unique in your feelings or trepidations (I hesitate to use the word "fears").

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:18 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:54 am 
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Just go and enjoy. You are over thinking this. If you don't like it ( slim chance of that) or you permanently satisfy your curiosity, you have the option of just never doing it again. If you don't go however, you will have to wonder forever what you missed. Over analysis kills spontaneous fun. Book your trip immediately.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:06 pm 
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Hmm,

I actually will have to disagree with the consensus here. I think that the financial and social implications for most younger men is potentially overwhelming. I would recommend not starting until much later and to give yourself the opportunity to experience a "normal" life back home first. That life may or may not work out for you but I believe the journey is an important part of life. You ae asking this question to a mostly 40 plus crowd that have been through marriages, Ch*ldren etc and chosen this as a path later in life.

This is definetly my worst effort as a Hotel Sales and Marketing guy :?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:48 pm 
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If I may politely and mildly disagree with my good friend Brother BKTuna: It's hard to tell somebody's overall maturity level from a few posts, especially on a deep-seated and volatile subject like sex but I look at the model of young soldiers posted overseas (Korea, Germany, Panama) who indulge themselves in sexual adventure but then come home to lead "normal" lives. It may lessen the bonds or keep them from forming deeply, because they know they have the option of travelling back to those places as civilians but most don't. This is also true of those men accepting foreign postings in the corporate sphere. This is admittedly a weak analogy but it does work somewhat.
Further, he hasn't said he's coming to CR just to monger (though it is most likely true he is); among the bulk of us he has the best chance to get out and about for the other adventures CR has to offer, and on a continuing basis, and maybe form relationships with non-P4P women both Tica and Gringa. It may be this, er, hobby is addicting but perhaps not instantly addicting--only he knows his character (still in formation) enough to know that.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:25 pm 
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I started at 19, but it was in Vietnam, so that doesn't really count. It was either that or whack it. When I came back to "the world", I was 22 and basically phucked myself crazy. I couldn't have imagined traveling for poosey, hell I would even leave the city I was in. :shock:

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I guess my fear is simply the general fear of approaching random women, but the language/culture barrier makes it even more daunting… What interest will they have in screwing a gringo on a two week trip to their country anyway?


You know, fear does not have to be your enemy; a story about fear:

Lions love to eat Gazelle's. The old Lion's are to slow, and the young Lion's are not fast enough to catch them. The old Lion's wait in the tall grass, while the young Lion's herd them back towards the old Lion's. When they are close, the old Lion's raise up and give a great roar. In fear, the Gazelle's turn and run the other way, right back into the young Lion's to be eaten. If the Gazelle's would have charged through the roar (fear), they would not have been caught.

Fear used to be my enemy also. I recoiled into myself when my body presented the feeling to me because I had already predicted negative results. I went within myself, back to my shadows, that I had protected me so well as a young boy. It was not positive response, but I "felt" safe since I had been protected there before. Now as I have identified the feeling of fear in my body, I am interested in what was in it for me to submit to that feeling. I am now excited by the feeling, and want to see the results of "charging through the roar". Identify the area of your body, where you feel the fear (mine was in my stomach). When that feeling arises, change that negative feeling to a positive feeling immediately. While I always got something from recoiling, the pay off is much higher since I choose to want to see the results of that feeling. Understand that the fear of the lady, is probably as great, if not greater than yours, in approaching you.

For me, mongering is like most other things in my life that I do, I do it to excess. I learned from athletics that everyone says they give 110%. For me to reach the goals I wanted, I had to give 150%. It worked very well, but unfortunately it has become a part of who I am. My point is that if you have an addictive personality, it may not be wise to get into mongering.

People are like snowflakes, there are no two exactly alike. Only you can reach into your psyche and discover what lies within.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:02 pm 
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D2864 wrote:
If you got the money, you are old enough. Go for it! Lots of 18 year old honeys doing porn... why can't young guys do hookers? I'm thinking phucking vs. getting phucked will have less of an impact on your life long term, but who knows, some mongers get too wrapped up in the hobby, even the odd old monger sometimes lets a hooker take control.



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Also Santabro had a nice analogy., but totally went a different direction than I thought when first reading it. I was thinking of old lions and young lions chasing after young cute gazzelles.

anyways I understand if you want to keep a clean slate and don't want to lie to current/future girlfriends. I've gotten into those personal discussions in the past with gf's and you don't want to lie, but the truth may hurt her. you have to be vague, or change the subject. It's best to not do things you may regret. but then again you should feel free to have fun however you like., assuming you're not hurting anyone else. some may say you're hurting your own self., which for a young guy is debatable but I know for me, at 42 yrs. of age that argument doesn't hold up.

You can have fun in SJO without doing much p4p and see what happens. Hitting up some college ticas is intriguing but I think if you don't know spanish you're dead in the water. I say go and have as much fun as you dare and most of all tell us about it afterwards.

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