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They just think we are dumb, have too much money and love to show off by speading it around.


... So?

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While the word “TIP” is often debated as to its exact meaning and etymology, the probably inaccurate acronym “to insure promptness” is nevertheless the defacto meaning of tip to us as Americans and Canadians. In common everyday usage a TIP means a gratuity, voluntarily given to a service worker, for good service. The amount of the gratuity varies based on the quality of service.

Good service = better tip; poor service = smaller tip.

It is safe to say that Americans and Canadians see tips as a monetary reward connected to service excellence; but Ticas DO NOT see it that way.

To them a TIP is expected from Gringos because Gringos give TIPS even though TIPS are already built into the price of a Costa Rican meal or drink service. In other words, if you tip you are double tipping. And that is okay if the service is extraordinary.

For TICAs the concept of quality service and better TIPS is not connected. They just think we are dumb, have too much money and love to show off by speading it around.

Perhaps that that is due to the fact that some Gringo’s, who are pole vaulting from bar to bar, tip too much for inferior service.


I have wondered if the staff gets the tip money from the check. Does anybody know? This is exactly how I handle it, like Diego says. Poor service equals no tip. I don't get upset. I do the same at DR. If they make a face, I tell them next time stop chatting and start serving. Then I smile at them.

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maybe the issue is they already get ten percent anyway


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LaDiablo wrote:
maybe the issue is they already get ten percent anyway


That is what I was thinking. Not specifically the SL but at the DR.

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I am not sure what’s meant by “so”; my comments were simply an observation. That is how they often look at us when we tip, particularly when we tip excessively.

It was just a comment and not intended as judgmental. Some people do not care if others think of them as a fool and do not mind being laughed at; others do mind. It is relative.


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My understanding from a conversation with two of the SL bartenders is that the 10% included is shared with ALL kitchen/bar staff and the extra tip is JUST for the bartenders who serve you.


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My understanding from a conversation with two of the SL bartenders is that the 10% included is shared with ALL kitchen/bar staff and the extra tip is JUST for the bartenders who serve you.


With this info, if they don't serve you, don't tip. Very simple. As long as the crew is taken care of, it is cool.

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DiegoC wrote:
It was just a comment and not intended as judgmental. Some people do not care if others think of them as a fool and do not mind being laughed at; others do mind. It is relative.


"So" means "So what?".

Just an observation: some people are waaaaaay too concerned about what other people might be thinking / doing / saying about them.

As you said, it is relative -- some people do get bothered by it, while others don't give a rat's ass and just do their thing. ;)

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Mysnoatb wrote:
My understanding from a conversation with two of the SL bartenders is that the 10% included is shared with ALL kitchen/bar staff and the extra tip is JUST for the bartenders who serve you.


From what I have seen the extra bar tips go in a big jar and are divided between all the bar staff. So someone who didn't serve you, is a lazy server, etc. will still end up getting a share.

Probably this the fairest way to do it but I would still prefer the person who gave me good service the tip.


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Man, imagine a vacation where you were sweatin' the tips? Pffft, no gracias.. :roll:


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agree 100%.
DiegoC wrote:
While the word “TIP” is often debated as to its exact meaning and etymology, the probably inaccurate acronym “to insure promptness” is nevertheless the defacto meaning of tip to us as Americans and Canadians. In common everyday usage a TIP means a gratuity, voluntarily given to a service worker, for good service. The amount of the gratuity varies based on the quality of service.

Good service = better tip; poor service = smaller tip.

It is safe to say that Americans and Canadians see tips as a monetary reward connected to service excellence; but Ticas DO NOT see it that way.

To them a TIP is expected from Gringos because Gringos give TIPS even though TIPS are already built into the price of a Costa Rican meal or drink service. In other words, if you tip you are double tipping. And that is okay if the service is extraordinary.

For TICAs the concept of quality service and better TIPS is not connected. They just think we are dumb, have too much money and love to show off by speading it around.

Perhaps that that is due to the fact that some Gringo’s, who are pole vaulting from bar to bar, tip too much for inferior service.


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