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I have been in CR for business (and pleasure of course) for about 8 times in the past two years. On my first and so far only visit to the DR, I met this beautiful uncharacteristically shy Tica sitting there by herself looking completely out of place. We hit it off immediately and since then, I have spent all my idle time during my trips only with her. At the time we met, she had been working the trade for one week, and she tells me that she has stopped working, even though I never asked her to. The only thing I do ask of her is total honesty, all the rest I understand and can live with.
There is one issue which I don't understand. She has 3 K*ds, which she claims to be supporting by herself and she does not get Ch*ld support. After the first night at the DR, she has never asked me for a cent, and even refuses to accept money from me when I do try to help her (occasionally she does accept some reluctantly, but this is the exception to the rule), even though she "claims" to only scraping by.

......but still I am wondering, is there no Ch*ld support law in CR, or is there one, but it is not implemented?

Is she screwing with me?

But if this is so, for what reason? Has anybody out there had a similar experience?

Total spectulation on my part, but I would think that the folks down there know enough to live cheaply by buying at the central market, rather than at a Supermercado, taking the bus, getting help from the family and pinching centavos to make ends meet.

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There are Ch*ld support laws, but they are only enforced when the father is a gringo. He is forced to pay. If he's a Tico, he just dumps the problem (baby) in the woman's lap and goes on with his life.

They enforce the laws on ticos as well but they average around 500 bucks a month wages so they pay 20 to 40K per K*D.
Once a pension is put on the tico father he has to pay or else they notify him that he has a month to pay up or else they put them in jail for a week until they pay up or a relative does if not then release them and tell them to go earn some money It is enforced but most the time the ticos smooth talk the woman thats the way they do skate when they can...by smooth talking, thats the little part that the ladies omit when they tell the tale of woe. And often they are still friends with benefits with the father as well....this is omitted in the drama story as well. Think about it if she told you about that you would suddenly not be as sympathetic..hence the omission
True if you are gringo they think that you all have money in the world and a credit card with no limit so you better pay. But the reality is many gringos are living on the last bit of credit and are down in CR because they have no work temporarily and are spending the downtime in CR
Its the green ecotourists with all the money go get em .

Apreciate your input, guys. Thanks

Another reason not to exchange correct info with a chica.

The part about Ticos getting off easy is false. The Ch*ld support laws here are very strict. The women always win in court. The problem is enforcement. I know one tico that pays a handsome sum, and totally wants to pay it, for his daughter, for whom he only gets visitation rights on the weekend. Then, on the other hand, I know a gringo down here living on rice and beans, who is skipping out on his Ch*ld support payment in the states. This chump even had the nerve do give me advice on being a dad!!! I'd also be willing to bet that percentage-wise, the difference between ticos and gringos skipping on payments ain't that much different. In fact, its a hell of lot easier, if you just need to fly-out under the cover.

Many gringos IMHO have a falsely negative opinion on ticos. Where do they get this opinion??? The lovely working women of Costa Rica. I think its well documented on this site, that many of these lovelies are totally full of shit.

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They will detain you until a settlement is arranged in CR until leave if you have a little one with a Tica. Also if you try the flight from the US and try not paying they can and will extradite you if you are found. Another one to keep in mind is if you meet a chica here in the US have a K*d and she leaves after Ch*ld support is established they will send your support payments to her in the country she lives in. It's like winning the Lotto for her so be careful guys. Support guidelines allow them to take up to 65% of your gross income....Before taxes!!! While I'm in support of taking responsibility of ones actions, the lawmakers need to fine tune the guidelines just a bit in my opinion. This is what causes resentment and broken relationships between families. Not defending the guys who don't pay, just think with your head and not your dipstick, Jimmy.

I sought advice from a CR lawyer and this is what he told me:
https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 230#307230

I suggest finding a lawyer and doing the same.

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The above remark is wholly inaccurate. There is a strong and vigilant collection wing of the CR government just for this purpose. There is one catch to the process: The woman has to be willing to go sign the simple form to get the process started. You tell me why they don't sign the form.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/oct/06 ... paternity6 explains the Costa Rican FREE process....it is basic and simple.

One has to conclude that the chicas do NOT WANT to chase babydaddy. They'd rather cry on the shoulder of a rich gringo (that would be each and every one of us....even me although we all know I'm as broke as a broke dick dog....the inhumanity of it all.....)

Too, the USA and Costa Rica have a bi-lateral trade agreement for the enforcement of support laws. http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/pub ... 503.html#c

"On Feb. 16, 2005, U.S. Charge d' Affaires Douglas M. Barnes, and Costa Rican Foreign Minister Roberto Tovar signed a bilateral agreement for the reciprocal enforcement of Ch*ld support orders at the Foreign Ministry in San Jose, Costa Rica. This is the first bilateral Ch*ld support agreement between the United States and a Latin American country. As Mr. Barnes remarked at the signing ceremony, "Our hope is that this treaty and the laws both our countries have put into effect to better establish systems for the enforcement of Ch*ld support payments will be a model for other countries in the region." "

"One of those women is Nelsy Chacon, a 42-year-old single mother of three. All women whose Ch*ldren were born before the new law took effect must continue to apply to the courts, so she is now fighting under the old system to establish paternity for her 9-year-old son, Sebastian, and 7-year-old daughter, Fabiola. The courts have been deluged with such cases--before, they were handling about 34 a month but now have 430.

"Sipping a cup of coffee after 12 hours of work at a San Jose supermarket, Chacon said she just wanted to ensure that her Ch*ldren would have enough money to buy books for school.

"The father "thinks the K*ds live on air or sun," Chacon said. "I'm tired of worrying about money." "

Further, there IS a Public Welfare system in place in Costa Rica. There is no reason at all that the chicas can't make use of the outfit:
http://www.pani.go.cr/adpani.php It really does work, too.

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Sorry Dave, that's not true. Some do not net 65% after taxes. Actually, closer to 52%. Self employment tax is a biatch, even with dividends.

Most cases are around 33% for Ch*ld support. (father of 2 and divorced for 11 yrs y still payin)

DIB - I don't want to rain on your parade, but you met her at the DR - she was working, she is probably still working on an as needed basis. It not uncommon. Even the chicas you meet working in the malls on occasion will play for pay.

I guess the real question- is if she would rather work than take your money are you okay with it. And it is more important to find out about Costa Rica Ch*ld support laws or what your girl is up to.


Just an observation on my part DIB, there is a different standard of "truth" in CR especially among working girls and in many ways it is understandable. I don't know anything about your girl and she may be a completely straight shooter. It would be very rare for her not to work on occiasion. PM me and I will share some other ideas.

Don Rico

February it is true that they can take up to 65% of your gross income before taxes. This happens when a mother of a ch*ld shows up a couple of years later and finds the father by a DNA test and repayment of back support, usually no more than two years, is ordered by the court until the back payments are caught up. The first five years are usually the most expensive do to daycare, which dad usually pays 75% of and the insurance 100%. In any case support is a noble but very much abused system by the custodial parent. I've been through it also and finally sued for and received 100% custody. Did I ask the mom for support? No. Educating the youngsters about this would be a great way to curb them from starting families too young.

Man this is why I'm thinking about getting fixed. Don't have no K*ds and don't want none. If I do, I'll carry a copy of my proof of vasectomy with me when I go in case one of the chicas decides to tell me she's having my bambino.

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I spent much "quality" time with a cute spinner met at HLH on my last 2 trips. We talked to one another "como novios". Sweet little thing, then she springs on me that she is embarrazo! I had a vasectomy 14 years ago & showed her the scars & let her feel the little clips that seal off the vas defs next to the Boys. She got real quiet & pensive after that. She doesn't know my real name, so I took her to a nice dinner and destroyed the sim card. Never to see her again!