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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:26 pm 
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I think Orange gets the big gold star and Dr. Phil Award.


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"Gold Star"--absolutely, but I want to push Dr. Phil's face with great force into a brick wall--such a smug, self-satisfied putz I've rarely seen.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:34 am 
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"Gold Star"--absolutely, but I want to push Dr. Phil's face with great force into a brick wall--such a smug, self-satisfied putz I've rarely seen.

:? :? no mirrors in your house :? :? :lol: :P


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This thread is a good example of a legit question we all face eventually. The pros and cons have been laid out fully. Now if you decide to take your girl up on the offer you at least have a good idea of what could happen and can react accordingly without being shocked or upset. There is no right or wrong answer to these things, the point is to share the various issues and potential outcomes so we can all be more aware.


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Bktuna wrote:
This thread is a good example of a legit question we all face eventually. The pros and cons have been laid out fully. Now if you decide to take your girl up on the offer you at least have a good idea of what could happen and can react accordingly without being shocked or upset. There is no right or wrong answer to these things, the point is to share the various issues and potential outcomes so we can all be more aware.


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Agreed! I have a running joke with my favo about the gallo pinto there, and her mom said she'd make me some... so we'll see if that actually happens.


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comparing agent orange to DR Phil is an insult. :lol: Dr. Phil is an asshole.


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Better to treat Party girl like what she is. Party with her, when its party time. Be any nicer than that, you might find yourself calling her a scammer after she takes advantage of you. :idea:


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Have to agree with the majority of the posters in that there is very little up side and a potential downside, but limited in danger; not exactly like shooting a load inside sans condom, but my feeling is, why do it? Unless you are interested in seeing how the other half lives, meet Tio Pedro and Abuela. Of course, I am the consumate business man to the point of that I liken the whole thing to just a professional appointment. It might take some of the romance out of the whole experience, but that's ok. It's like that old joke: Know how to make a prositute C*m? Who cares? :o

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:10 am 
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I'm sticking with my earlier statement about Orange...

Are the members here SO jaded (maybe this is a stupid question) that you can't see ANY reason to get to know a chica?

My fav (and a number of others I've met) are REALLY super sweet girls. Having gotten to KNOW them to the point that they trust ME has added immensely to the depth and breadth of experiences I've had all over the world (with both pros and nonpros).

What's the upside? I get to do something nice for someone who doesn't catch that many breaks and deserves a few more. I think that's a tremendous upside.

What's the downside? Orange (AKA The CRT Dr. Phil :lol: ) put it well in that there COULD be some RFMs if the family reads into this too much. But that is easily remedied with a "No."

I'll stop typing before I start a rant...


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I agree, Mysnoatb. There rally is no "down-side" to getting to know someone a little better. Yes, there may be requests for money but then again there may not.

I got to know my girls family pretty well. I was going to go to the fairia (local fruit/produce/misc market) last Sunday and since my girl was on the phone to her mom, I asked if there was anything she needed. She talked to her mom for a minute, then told me there was nothing she really wanted. After she got off the phone, she admitted that there were many things her mom needed but she couldn't afford anything. I doubled up on most everything we needed and dropped them off at her mom's house. Cost me less than $20 cash and I know that her mom, little sister and brother (both in school) have something to eat for the week. Does that make me a "soft touch"? Maybe but I don't think they see it that way.

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Of course, I am the consumate business man to the point of that I liken the whole thing to just a professional appointment. It might take some of the romance out of the whole experience, but that's ok. It's like that old joke: Know how to make a prositute C*m? Who cares?

To me, this is like saying "I like driving a Ferrari but I never get it out of first gear...". Just trust me, it's worth the effort..... :D

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I don't find anything wrong with it whatsoever. One thing I don't understand and I sincerely don't want to offend anyone with this question? I'm just always interested to learn different aspects of this and the whole culture. Where and how do guys find these dirt poor pros? Maybe I just have tastes above my means, but most of the girls that I have played with over the years were probably better off than me. Sorry if this seems off subject, but I hear a lot about chicas in bad situations. Is it that some mongers go for the housewife/mother type over the sex kitten? Not judging, just interesting to know different peoples different motivations.


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Rather the protracted interaction – which as mentioned is potentially subject to mass misinterpretation from the family, BK mentioned doing something directly for the girl [great idea].

I’ve had great success with purchasing groceries for the house. Simply go to the market and buy a variety of fruits, vegetables, meats, canned soups, and toiletries.

Frankly, anything you do to reach out can and will be chopped up and dissected into a thousand pieces here. Screw that and those who will criticize, cast the line, and do what feels good…


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I don't find anything wrong with it whatsoever. One thing I don't understand and I sincerely don't want to offend anyone with this question? I'm just always interested to learn different aspects of this and the whole culture. Where and how do guys find these dirt poor pros? Maybe I just have tastes above my means, but most of the girls that I have played with over the years were probably better off than me. Sorry if this seems off subject, but I hear a lot about chicas in bad situations. Is it that some mongers go for the housewife/mother type over the sex kitten? Not judging, just interesting to know different peoples different motivations.


It really comes down to is the individual chica (of course). Some have to support just their own ch!ld(ren), others support a much larger family including siblings and parents, others live on their own and have no other expenses. Then, some chicas approach the "business" differently - some are going to go session as many times as possible to make as much money as possible. Others can't bring themselves to do that and as soon as they have enough money for a week, month, etc. stop working for that time.

And then there are yet others who only show up once in a while to make an extra $50-$100 a week to supplement their income from their regular jobs which pay maybe $500 a month or so.

Its all in the psyche of the chica. My current fav happens to be one who supports her entire family and works enough to support them but doesn't like multiple guys in the same day (not that she WON'T do that - she just prefers not to).


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Thanks Mysnoatb. That is a very concise and direct explanation. That one I haven't thought of and it actually makes sense.


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Being one of the few that to not think that meeting family members is a good idea, I can see where some benefits can be had from taking care of some family basic needs so the chica can concentrate on you. From my perspective that is too close to a sudo RFM but that is just me. And most of the reasons given before for doing it, do have some merit.

But I think that we are just looking at half of the equation, in this case the situation that can be created by meeting family members. We have mention RFM, family members, K*ds, etc. And that is the half of the equation representing the chica, but what about the monger's feelings, expectations or the other half of the equation? Yes, we expect better sex and connection with the chica but we can always buy that. It is P4P after all.

I think that when you start meeting the family members, you open up yourself and risk be taken by the All-American Capt-Sav-Ho syndrome. Some if not most of us probably make 10-20-30 times a month what the standard CR family income makes. It is hard for me to believe that you can sit idle while you see a novia and family struggle from day to day and not start getting involved. Even a cold hearted bastard like myself will try to make a change on a chica's life because you want her to do better. And add to that knowing and building a relationship with her family and I think that the monger is on a no-win situation. I will assume that you went to CR for P4P and not looking for a relationship.

In summary, it is easier for me not to create expectations on the chica or myself and feel bad about it if at some point I do not want to take on the role of Capt-Sav-Ho.

Just another view.

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