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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:36 am 
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well i wasn't really considering this guy could be an ass clown, but that sort of makes sense. yes matt has a train problem and no i will not need to look for another hotel in san jose because of it. he has treated me like a king for years.
thats not to say i wouldn't stay at another hotel but the huge pecentage of good things going on at amistad can not be outweighed by one negative. its your choice how big of deal you want to make it.


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Granted, it is a really big stretch to say someone is getting a discount on their room in exchange for promoting a hotel rather than simply being a super regular customer, however, whatever the reason for any discount, the fact remains the same that such a discount probably does introduce at least some bias into one's attitudes towards that hotel.

Whenever one reads ANY review, whether its for a hotel, a restaurant or even a chica, it is important to be fully informed of that reviewer's particular situation, so that one can judge how well that review might apply to their own. It is not unreasonable to expect a frequent and reliable customer will be treated much differently than the less frequent or even first time one, both in terms of price AND service, and that in turn will color their attitude back towards that establishment or service provider.

Does that reviewer stay in the same sort of room that the average reader would be staying in or does he get an upgrade? Does the reviewer pay the same rate as that reader would pay? Does the reviewer's frequent visits and greater familiarity with hotel staff result in being treated with greater care and attention than just some schmoe showing up for the first time? And would the reviewer would be so willing to overlook or downplay the hotel's shortcomings if he was paying the higher rate that the one week per year schmoe has to pay?

These questions and others are all valid questions. Your opinion may be honest, but is it subconsciously biased and is it even really relevant to what much less regular visitors can expect?

And finally there are other aspects alluded to by others. Is the reviewer a light sleeper? Does he sleep in or rise early? And how does that differ from the reader of the review? Personally, I always stay at the Castillo which is a couple of blocks further away from the train than even the SL, though nearly as close to it as the Amistad and certainly a little closer to the HDR/BM. One can hear the train even from there though it certainly isn't loud enough there to rouse any but the very lightest sleepers. However, I can only imagine how loud it must be from 30 feet away rather than 3 blocks.

Speaking objectively, if the impact of the train really is severe enough to cause the building to shake, be heard through earplugs and make conversations temporarily impossible, as some posters have described, then it is hard to reconcile that with the claims of others that the train noise is nothing but a minor annoyance. Sure, some people may be really deep sleepers and can just turn over and go back to a drowsy sleep, but with the schedule running as regularly as every 15-30 minutes in the morning, there goes a lot of your REM sleep and when you do rise you're not going to be as fully rested. And even if they're "early risers" (how many mongers are in bed SLEEPING by midnight while in CR), they have to get up really early not to be disturbed by trains that start blowing their horns at 6AM. And then, once they're up, I can't believe anyone likes having their peaceful breakfast interrupted by noises loud enough to interrupt conversations. Some guys may be willing to PUT UP with this sort of thing because they're getting a really good rate on their room or because they've developed loyalty to the hotel and its management over the course of many stays there (much of which like those TA reviews probably predated the trains), however for those just considering this hotel now for the first time its not like there aren't other hotel choices with similar rates as they can acheive at the Amistad but without these drawbacks.


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WestPalm wrote:
How bad is bad when it comes to this new commuter train?? Thanks a bunch......

I'm a "regular" schmoe. But I can't give you my recommendation, because I get cheap rates at La Amistad for shilling. :shock: Boy oh boy... them SL boys are shameless, huh ?!??!?!?!?!?! :o :P :lol: :mrgreen:

But if you want a nickel's worth of free advice ? Stay away from SL and La Amistad. After reading all your posts, IMO the Nuevo Johnson seems like it would be a perfect fit for you. :wink:

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WestPalm wrote:

Everything I gather now is that the thing starts rolling at 6am with workers hanging on as they "commute" to their low wage job .....


WP, you care to explain this comment and it's relativity to your post :roll:


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I am a regular schmoe who likes the penthouse rooms at LA. I equate the train noise along with the other minor inconveinces that are a part of life in Costa Rica. The street noise at the Presidente is much worse than the train as it is constant. The SL to is to frathouse for me, I don't care to sleep in a brothel. This is why we all have options.


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I am a regular schmoe who likes the penthouse rooms at LA. I equate the train noise along with the other minor inconveinces that are a part of life in Costa Rica. The street noise at the Presidente is much worse than the train as it is constant. The SL to is to frathouse for me, I don't care to sleep in a brothel. This is why we all have options.

Exactly, and I do mean Exactly, what I was thinking.


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What the heck. Please stay at the SL. The occupancy rate is too high at La Amistad. 8) 8) 8) 8)

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I am a regular schmoe who likes the penthouse rooms at LA. I equate the train noise along with the other minor inconveinces that are a part of life in Costa Rica. The street noise at the Presidente is much worse than the train as it is constant. The SL to is to frathouse for me, I don't care to sleep in a brothel. This is why we all have options.

Exactly, and I do mean Exactly, what I was thinking.


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Except the part about sleeping in a brothel......I don't mind that :lol: :lol: :!:

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HOTEL LA AMISTAD, THE TRAIN & TRAFFIC

The train and its inherent noise is a problem that we are working to address. It is a new commuter train that started transporting passengers a few weeks ago. Since then the train has derailed twice, there have been numerous incidents with passenger cars and buses and neighborhood protests on the tracks have stopped the train. There was even a derailment on the inauguration run with the President of Costa Rica aboard! Because of this, the train operators are extremely cautious with the warning horns and are at times excessive. For whatever reason, there are no crossing barriers or warning lights. Worse is that at one of the two intersections near the hotel there is not even a stop sign! Another problem is the success of the train. It is running 90 minutes earlier in the morning and two hours later in the evening to accommodate passenger demand.

Compounding the problem is that a major traffic route into the central business district is under construction. Traffic is being re-routed around the construction zone and is passing directly in front of the hotel. They are currently half way completed with this two month project.

As a visitor to Costa Rica it probably does appear that nothing can be done but it is no different than the States or other countries. Hotel La Amistad is a successful business with 18 years experience in Costa Rica. The success is based on the ability to provide a quality product and service to satisfy customer needs. Professionals with legal, architectural and engineering expertise have been hired to work with the various government agencies, the legal system and neighborhood groups. It is going to take time but the process has been initiated. A lawsuit has been filed to address the safety and noise issues, we have a meeting next week with the president of the Costa Rica Railroad Institute and our architect and engineer are determining soundproofing options.

Whenever guests have a problem with a room we do our best to change or upgrade them. Unfortunately, during U.S. holidays the hotel and others around us are usually full and it is difficult to find alternative rooms.

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I'm not sure why this issue necessitated 2 seperate threads. The upshot is, yes, the noise is a serious issue for some. For others all the other wonderful positives more than make up for the shortcoming in this one area. And, in any event, being the well managed placed that it is, management is well aware of the problem and is doing everything possible to alleviate it. Personally, I wish Matt nothing but success in his efforts as his hotel has been a very positive force in the neighborhood and a wonderful resource for many of us. Hopefully, something will be able to be done about this and it will once again become a non-issue.


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Prolijo wrote:
I'm not sure why this issue necessitated 2 seperate threads. .


I think you should talk to "westpalm" about that.... :|


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Wouldn't be a problem for me, but I can see it being a serious issue for most. I sleep with the TV on all night so noise doesn't bother me. I hope it works out for them though. Never met Matt, but like his style of doing business. From his posts on here addressing issues, he seems to be a straight shooter. Doesn't make excuses. Good luck...


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We supply nice earplugs to all rooms, Matt may want to start doing this to help mitigate the noise.

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Bktuna wrote:
We supply nice earplugs to all rooms, Matt may want to start doing this to help mitigate the noise.

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For real? The moment Matt hands me a set of ear plugs, is the moment I will be looking to stay someplace else. I did not know the Dunn Inn had a noise problem.

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