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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:16 pm 
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I've taken the advice from the board and I have taken all of the items mentioned in this thread and given them out. The girls do like them but then again...They like cash too.

At any rate recently I started thinking more about the practice of gifting. I think it is also possible that in giving stuff like this away we re-enforce the notion that we are to be used for what they can get out of us. There are as many views on this as there are mongers. To each his own. I suspect I'll continue to give things to the girls I really like or the ones that are outstanding in the way of performance. That's just the kind of guy I am.

Having said that though I think we need to think about how we want the girls to view us...As someone to be manipulated for gain or as guys that are cool to hang out with and party with when we are in town. I think it is a delicate balancing act. Just my 2 cents.

KenLee


Spot on! And that is why cheap chocolates are the way to go in my opinion.

:D :D i like to bring red shoelace licorice also..the girls love it :!: :!: i love to gently pass the licorice all over their bodies, it just makes them tremble :D :D


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J0sie wrote:
KenLee wrote:
I've taken the advice from the board and I have taken all of the items mentioned in this thread and given them out. The girls do like them but then again...They like cash too.

At any rate recently I started thinking more about the practice of gifting. I think it is also possible that in giving stuff like this away we re-enforce the notion that we are to be used for what they can get out of us. There are as many views on this as there are mongers. To each his own. I suspect I'll continue to give things to the girls I really like or the ones that are outstanding in the way of performance. That's just the kind of guy I am.

Having said that though I think we need to think about how we want the girls to view us...As someone to be manipulated for gain or as guys that are cool to hang out with and party with when we are in town. I think it is a delicate balancing act. Just my 2 cents.

KenLee


I think you spend way to much time with Cujo. On your next trip, do this experiment. Show up to the HDR, what the heck, any MP also included. Announce that you are there to have sex without paying for it. Let me know how that goes. How they see us? Can you spell ATM?

OK…just busting your chops but this is P4P. We pay they spread. Anything in between is just for our fantasy. Never forget that.


Exactly, JOsie. If you have a favorite regular then bringing her a little something is nice, but to freely give out gifts to every one-time-only chica is taking the fantasy a little too far. Cash is what they want and what they get.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:53 pm 
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Absophuckinglutly. I couldn't agree more. LMAO You guys are 100% correct. In fact I'll never bring another gift or be nice to any of them ever again. I'll simply have copies of my ATM card made and put my PIN number on my forehead. LMAO

Dude seriously, sure it's about money...We have it, they don't. It's also about repeat business (more money). But I can almost positively guarantee you they look at more than just the cash. Cash is king no doubt but they are human and they take other things into consideration as well.

If it is all about the money, then why would you bring gifts at all Josie? That seems to be contradictory.

As for the MP scene...Not my thing. But since you brought it up. I think there is a huge difference in the strictly MP girls and the strictly independents. Don't count the girls that do both, they want all the money. LOL Why do you suppose the truly independent are independents? Maybe they think they can make more money on their own when they don't have to give up half the cash. Maybe, just maybe they don't like having to have a straight schedule. Or maybe they like to keep it cool and have fun, pick and choose who they hang out with. All possibilities. In all likelihood in most cases it is a combination of all of the above, if you look at it on an individual basis. I think my point is that the girls need the money #1 (absolutely no argument from me on that point. None). #2 they like to party and have fun. #3 They don't want to just phuck any fat bastard the walks up with $30. As an Indy they have more choice. #4 They are still people first and just like we prefer what we prefer they too have their own preferences and are naturally attracted some of guys better than others and when all other things are equal they will choose the one they like best over the ones they like least. I really don't see why that is so hard for some people to grasp. It's common sense. Is it about the money? YES! Is it ALWAYS, ENTIRELY about the money? NO! I'm no Greek god or hot young stud...Far from it but I can talk my ass off and to be honest if I can't relate to a chica... Then I'd just as soon say......... NEXT and it really doesn't matter how hot I think she is. It seems to me that it is when I break this rule that the experience is always less than what I consider optimal.

There is one thing about people you can always count on. They are going to do what they think is in their best interest. Maybe not their short term interests but what they think is in their over all best interest. It does not matter if it is working girls, you or me. People are not wired to make decisions that they think is not in their best interest. Some how they justify what they do. Now their logic can be non existent or faulty but they do what they think is best for them.

KenLee


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:55 pm 
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The gift is a tip, propina, for service provided. If the service is not there, then don't give the tip. The gifts are a good idea in that they are more personal that a $10 or $20 dollar tip and can be bought at a discount in the states. What you can get for $8 to $12 in the states costs them $20 to $30 here. They perceive they are getting more than it is costing you so if they were the right girl in the first place to give a tip to, they show their appreciation. Just my opinion.


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