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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:45 am 
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I know Lucky 13 pretty well and I have met Cubby (within 30 seconds he was promoting himself) and I will say that There is NO comparison on who I would trust. Lucky 13 is a highly successful businessman and Cubby.....well he isn't. Tout is a good way to describe what he does. He's just the same as the "touts" that are all over the racetracks around the world. "Psst hey man want a winner....." The only difference is that now we have the internet.


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 Post subject: Cubby Weighs In!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:42 pm 
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Lucky 13,

To answer your question, yes I have bet MY OWN MONEY on all 452 of those picks during the past 3 seasons. Vegas Bob, you said that you know Lucky 13 well, maybe you do. You met me one time for 5-10 minutes. Since you know Lucky 13 a lot better than me, of course you trust him more. As for your offer Lucky 13, I already bet with 4 'books, as like all pros I shop around for the best line. And like I said, my picks are already tracked on my website on my "TRACK ME" page, go up 10 minutes after kickoff and stay up for 2 MONTHS after that. I might just bet with you next season though Lucky 13, and e-mail you my picks that I didn't bet with your 'book due to the line. And maybe Lucky 13 is a successful businessman, but he's not as good of a NFL 'capper as I am Vegas Bob. And with all due respect you are not either. Have you won 61% of your last 450 picks Vegas Bob? Not bloody likely, so you have no right to knock me for my lack of success. EVERYBODY who knows me well will attest to my honesty and integrity.

My free teaser pick (2 teams, 6 points) this week is:
Carolina Panthers +8/8.5 and the Indianapolis Colts -1.

I also have 3 side plays this week, which you may purchase at my website. And remember to track my picks this week. Enjoy the games!

Steve "Cubby" Drumm - www.PickNFLWinners.com


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:50 pm 
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I know Lucky very well. He is not a handicapper at all. He owns a succesful on line sportsbook ww.gowidesports.com.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:48 pm 
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I checked your site last night right after the game your pick was not up why wait until next year shop my line too


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:08 am 
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Lucky 13,

The reason why my pick wasn´t up on my site last night is simple - I didn´t
have a pick on last night´s game, I passed on it. Check my site this Sunday any time
after 11.10 am CRT and you will see my 3 side plays for this week.

My money is all tied up in those 4 accounts, i.e. I still have to meet rollover requirements
and I will not withdrawal early because that would force me to forfeit money. But I will
definitely keep you in mind for next season.

Cubby


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:53 am 
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Cubby, Best of Luck this season maybe will try it next year


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:51 am 
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So what you guys are telling me is that if I can scrape up some money to place some bets with you, you will show me how to make a bunch of money so that I can afford to take another CR vacation? And the money I win will come out of your pockets? I’m all in! Give me a few weeks to sell some valuables and I will get back at ya. Thanks for all the help! I’m new to the online betting scene and if I am going to jump in with both feet it’s nice to know people who are willing to help a person make some money. I can see it now, nice cars, nice houses, beautiful woman, top of the line suits and money being no object once I become a success! :idea:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:00 pm 
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61% is very impressive, though I prefer college football betting and in particular betting on/against the 'Canes as they get a lot of press here and I follow them. I do look forward to tracking your selections for the first couple weeks although I do not anticipate subscribing to anybody's service. Especially since we have blackjack in the county now at the HardRock.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:06 pm 
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Lucky13, Thanks for the well-wishes. Yeah, I will keep you in mind for next season.

SnapperTrapper, Yeah, I am more than willing to help you make money betting on football, regardless of whether you choose to bet online or via another means. In return, I just expect you to pay me a nominal fee. I only charge $25 per week, $85 per month, and $325 for the whole season (of course, that number goes down as the season progresses). If you are going to be betting SnapperTrapper, you might as well do it with a honest, reasonably-priced guy with a proven track record of success!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:29 pm 
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Cubby wrote:
Lucky13, Thanks for the well-wishes. Yeah, I will keep you in mind for next season.

SnapperTrapper, Yeah, I am more than willing to help you make money betting on football, regardless of whether you choose to bet online or via another means. In return, I just expect you to pay me a nominal fee. I only charge $25 per week, $85 per month, and $325 for the whole season (of course, that number goes down as the season progresses). If you are going to be betting SnapperTrapper, you might as well do it with a honest, reasonably-priced guy with a proven track record of success!


Ok, thanks for the advice. When I think I found that trust worthy person I will let you know. :lol:

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 Post subject: ADDED LATE PLAY!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:40 pm 
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I have one added late play! I now have 4 side plays (and one teaser) and all the games start at 1 pm EST (11 am CRT). Remember to check
my "TRACK ME" page.

Steve "Cubby" Drumm - www.PickNFLWinners.com


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:11 pm 
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With my 0-5 performance today (0-4 on sides, 0-1 on teasers), I am now 269-179-9 (60%) during the past 3+ NFL seasons. Oh well, back in Week 13 of the 2005 season I went 0-8, so I've whethered bad storms before. Everybody has bad days. Last season I went 0-2 in Week 1. I will rebound from this.

Cubby


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:34 pm 
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Cubby wrote:
With my 0-5 performance today (0-4 on sides, 0-1 on teasers), I am now 269-179-9 (60%) during the past 3+ NFL seasons. Oh well, back in Week 13 of the 2005 season I went 0-8, so I've whethered bad storms before. Everybody has bad days. Last season I went 0-2 in Week 1. I will rebound from this.

Cubby


You should try using a Crystal Ball… lol :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:51 pm 
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To be accurate your 0-4 picks against the lines carried .5 in total juice. If someone bet with you they would have lost $450 to try to win $400. I am not sure what the teaser was. If I assume it was a standard type deal then that would have been another $100. So hypothetically we are down $550 not $500.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:42 am 
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Yes, you are correct BkTuna. A $100 player would actually be down $560
on my plays this season, assuming that they got the same juice that I bet it at. And the past 3+ seasons at 269-179-9, he'd be up $7,210, assuming that he bet all my plays at 10% juice. A $200 player would be up $14,420, a nickel player would be up $36,050, and a dime player would be up $72,100. ALL handicappers, no matter how good they are, have bad days. Its inevitable. I will rebound from this, just like I have before.


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