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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:47 pm 
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Very interesting perspectives so far, but again... where's the solid numerical data? Even BB57's post just above this one says the C.R. government estimates the number of visitors at between 2 and 3 million....a 33% discrepency in numbers! Furthermore, I doubt that mongers make only a 2.5% difference in the overall cashflow. Why? For one, mongers do indeed participate in other tourist activities: fishing, canopy tours, volcano visits, hot springs visits etc. Secondly, in addition to money paid to prostitutes (many of whom are ticas and spend their money in-country), mongers spend quite a lot on hotels, food, taxis, souvenirs, guides and the like. I just went over the budget for my most recent trip and discovered that I spent only about 40% of the total on all forms of entertainment, including putas. Well over 60% went to keeping myself fed, housed and comfortable.

Again, the lack of real numbers means that any conclusions we might reach here are pretty much invalid guesswork. But rave on, my brothers, rave on. :D :wink: BTW, ignore me if I seem owly; I still have 68 days until wheels up. :cry: I might be getting a little irritated. Lack of blowjobs will do that to a fella. :lol: Maybe I just need some Diacort...

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El Ciego, I certainly am not trying to start a disagreement with you or anyone else here about totally unverifyable figures. But I do find it amusing that the estimated importance of mongers on the economy of Costa Rica is ALWAYS much higher in the minds of the visiting mongers than in the minds of the resident mongers :!: :!: :roll: :? :wink:

And a whole whole lot less important in the eyes of the vast majority of the Ticos outside of the Gulch. :!: :roll:

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I think the numbers are skewed byt the cross-purpose visitors. My first trip was for fishing but the fact that the girls are hotter than the fishing, (which is great), made us choose CR over say Cabo or Puerto Vallarta. If the girls where not here, many of the fishermen would go elsewhere as well.

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El Ciego, I certainly am not trying to start a disagreement with you or anyone else here about totally unverifyable figures. But I do find it amusing that the estimated importance of mongers on the economy of Costa Rica is ALWAYS much higher in the minds of the visiting mongers than in the minds of the resident mongers :!: :!: :roll: :? :wink:


Absolutely no disagreement there, my friend. I guess the question then becomes, "How insignificant?"

Look, Laura Chinchinga will probably try to screw with prostitution if elected. If we (mongers) truly had any real impact, the government policy would be much more k*d-gloved for the foreseeable future.

And a whole whole lot less important in the eyes of the vast majority of the Ticos outside of the Gulch. :!: :roll:


To the point where Ms. Chinchilla confused casinos with brothels in a public statement. I think most ticos don't really care one way or another; some are offended, but most shrug. Prostitution has been a commonplace in Latin America for centuries, as it was until about the 1950's in the U.S.A. Just another part of the culture.

I think that discussions like this sort of downplay the significance of what we do on an individual basis. Maybe it's not a significant drop in C.R.'s economic bucket, but I know several women whose lives would feel the blow if we weren't there. Casino workers, taxistas, cops, beggars, restauranteurs,, hotel people etc.; each would hurt some if we weren't thre.

If I have no other specious moral justification for what I do in C.R., at least I am comforted in the knowledge that a couple hundred folks regularly benefit from my participation in the hobby.

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i may be all hopped up on DIACORT, but that does not mean that reasonable estimates of the number of mongers that visit San Jose, at least, cannot be figured out.

for instance, how many rooms are there at almost purely monger hotels?

100 plus at the Del Rey?

35 or so at the SL?

half a dozen at Zona Blue?

how many at the Morazan?

Hotel M?

what would be a reasonable estimate of the number of rooms and percentage of said rooms at other places like the Castillo, the Presidente, Dunn Inn, La Amistad, Nuevo Johnson...etc...that are occupied by mongers?

I'm not curious about any perceived importance about the number, just curious as to what it could be.

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Total number of rooms in monger friendly hotels in ALL of CR :?: MAYBE 500. Far less than my generous estimate of 1000 mongers per week. :roll: :wink:

And El Ciego, you are 100% correct in that the effect WE have on the people who work in the gulch and the sex industry is much much greater than on the rest of the population. But again that segment of the total population is relatively small and regretfully of little importance nor concern to the rest of the population. In that sence, YES we are providing a great service to a small group of people :idea: 8) :D :D

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Musician Charlie Daniels once said in an interview that he was most proud of his employment of 21 people over the length of his career. I think that's what I'm getting at.

We may make an insignificant contribution to the overall C.R. economy, but at least we keep a segment of the people employed It ain't much, but it's a living.

C-dude, good way to break it down. I still think the numbers would be hard to nail down.

My perception is that most hotels in Latin America tolerate prostitution to some degree. Even the Holiday Inn and SleepInn allow working girls,, but with a high fee. I now of many small hotels outside the valley where one would not even be questioned...many hotel operators respect the privacy of their guests and unless there's trouble, will continue to respect that privacy. Therefore, identifying "monger-friendly hotels" might be a daunting task in and of itself.

Another aspect is the homegrown p4p market, accessible only by ticos. It certainly does exist. The government's estimate of 8500 prostitutes in C.R., compared with the combined rosters of all known MP's and bars would lead one to believe that a significant percentage of this 8500 member workforce is way under the radar.

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Again if the GRAN HOTEL would allow chicas there occupancy rate would soar and provide another choice for mongers 8)


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