www.CostaRicaTicas.com

Since there's 8 months left till election day, we have lots of time left to spin ever more elaborately paranoid conspiracy theories.

Some facts:

--If you go to Laura Chinchilla's website and read her "Manifesto Politico" you will find no mention of prostitution, casinos or the gultch. You will find discussion of professionalizing the police force, prosecuting corrupt cops, expanding the prison system, reforming the judicial system, raising salaries for police and teachers, fighting drug trafficking, etc. Among the (limited) comments left by her supporters on her various blogs, there is zero discussion of prostitution.

--She has made at least one comment saying that something needs to be done about the HDR being a "prostíbulo". This was in a March 4, 2008 interview with Al Día regarding changes in the casino regulations. http://www.aldia.cr/ad_ee/2008/marzo/04/nacionales1448885.html (note: the proximate cause of these changes was the plans of a Russian consortium to build a multi-story mega-casino directly across the plaza from the Teatro Naciónal. Also her comment about HDR was in response to a direct question from the reporter, rather than something she brought up on her own).

--The July 2008 MP closings, although widely believed to be motivated by political jockeying between Araya and Chinchilla, were officially actions taken by municipal authorities rather than the central government.

-- The Costa Rican polling organization, Unimer, has not seen fit to include questions about prostitution or sex tourism in their polls regarding what issues most concern Costa Ricans in the upcoming elections.

It also seems to me that the TLC (CAFTA) is pretty much a settled matter and is no longer a political issue (much to the chagrin of Ottón Solis). But even if it were, I aggree with BB57 that it has little bearing on the discussion here.

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It's faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, and more money--Tom T. Hall
No man is a failure who is enjoying life--William Faulkner

Thanks HD

NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

Boy, everywhere and everytime I post on this message board, you follow me about and dis me. I DISMISS these remarks and attribute them to the fact I am not going to kiss your ass as some person who knows WHAT IS WHAT in the REAL Costa Rica. Why is that?

CR politics is not your forte BROTHERMAN, in my view. Try to implement some abstract understanding of REAL COSTA RICA life and maybe....JUST.....maybe you might start being able to see straight.

I do not care about the tourist sex boys.....they don't go to Costa Rica but for one reason and many of that group have a mindset that has created much if not all of the "problems" relative to "worry" about can I get a cheap piece of ass from a 3rd world Nation. No wonder that politico cunt has a following......

One HAS to understand the belly of the beast in order to "roll" in such a manner that one is NOT stopped by Policia or run into other problems.....

Believe it or not sir, I have as much knowledge if not more than you when it comes to the social strata who REALLY run day to day life in CR.

The lack of understanding about CR politics demonstrates the Ugly American syndrome x 100!!!

The reason it is so easy to use "it" as a smokescreen to hide what is really going on down there is because it takes the "heat" off the real life issues that today's Costa Rica confronts.

I don't base my life on being a potentate on a message board such that I am viewed as one in the know because I DO KNOW...already.....and I pity the fool who goes down there to live and wonders what hit "him" when things go awry.....

Trust me....it will be ALL GOOD once the votes are counted.....da,,,,da,,,,da,,,dat's all folks!

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"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Get out of the cess pool of BOTH "Gringo Gulch" areas and you'd be surprised.

Even within Gringo Gulch territory....look around at the NEW Graffiti and you might gain some addtl. insight....CAFTA contempt is alive and well amongst THE PEOPLE of Costa Rica.....(that does NOT include the monied and those who have so much to lose when CAFTA is crushed)......But that "crushing" is another story....follow the Citizen Action Party-PAC and you may be able to see the forest for the trees.....they've an uphill battle...with the USAID (among others) funneling tons of money to control this "democracy" which is but the lone outpost in Central America that the USA THINKS it controls....

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"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Actually, I've lived happily in Tibás for the last eight years. "Both gringo gulch areas" are far from the center of my life in CR.

With all due props to my friends in Escazú.

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It's faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, and more money--Tom T. Hall
No man is a failure who is enjoying life--William Faulkner

You quoted Porky Pig and Mr. T in the above post I see the temptation in useing these characters to describe ones feelings for CR.

Break it down Steven1, opine for us, what is the real political climate for CR?

PB

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I would rather import a Pit Viper, than marry a Russian.

Phucking KGB is always following me.

Go ahead and run with scissors, I don't care!

Why the need for personal attacks, Steven1? I read all of BangBang's post and see no where that he "dissed" you. Can't anyone have an opinion without you attacking them personally?

This is exactly the type of post that we need none of on this board, in humble opinion.

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but your love don't pay my bills,
I NEED THE MONEY!" - John Lee Hooker

Disclaimer: The above is merely the opinion of the author unless specific scientific data is included.
Your mileage may vary. https://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 978#206978

Just one guys opinion. From talking to locals from all levels of society, prostitution is not really a day to day topic of any ticos I've talked to. And I think whoever is President will either follow former presidents and go after money or exposure on the world stage.

I think I'm the one who get's to determine when I am reading being dissed...nobody else, and that's what counts to me. *shrug* I also believe new mothers shoveling white powder up their noses in monger watering holes and hotels with their new born infants in tow while new daddys are present are what helps to lend credence to what certain female CR politicians may be able to capitalize upon and use to impact on the ability to score (excuse the pun). Wonder what other CRT members think of that practice?

Who is this "we" constantly referred to by you? Again, there are between 12,000 to 18,000 registered users of this message board (the number depends on who you speak to....) and out of either of those numbers, MAYBE 100 people post. So I don't think there is a "we".

Now....just for the heck of it....here I go:

.......

....are remarks I find arrogantly dismissive and fraught with a disdain for what I believe is part and parcel with the subject at hand: Going to Costa Rica for the PRIMARY purpose of scoring cheap pu*sy. The remarks smack of jingoism and a disrespect for the people of Costa Rica...and I am referring to the man and woman in the street....not the upper strata who are lost in Lexus', BMW's, and Mercedes Benz's. Working for a living as a bird of the night CANNOT be seperated from the overall larger picture of the Nation. Impossible. To suggest that it is not part and parcel with what the guy driving the taxi thinks or what the guy picking coffee beans thinks belies an ignorance to what this "election" is going to accomplish. I earlier highlighted the Party to keep an eye on. Ever heard of it? I also suggested reading the graffitti on the walls all around gringo gulch and the rest of Costa Rica will educate to no end. Affiant further sayeth naught.

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"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

Classy as usual Steven1. Can someone give this guy a hug for me?


Cujo

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"Pain is the fuel that fans the flames of my pyre. A battle plan is only as good as the general carrying it out on the field. This is my war son, and I have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"...

Cracks from the peanut gallery (fraternity....self admitted) with "dank".....

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"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

BangBang was right-on in his post of Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:07 am, regarding the influence of a minority on the majority.

La Nación published some of the income figures for both Laura Chinchilla and Johnny Araya. Of the donations made up to May 29th, LC had taken in 261 million colones.

Thirty-two percent (32%) of the gross amount contributed to LC came from only 10 donors.

Among the largest were Rodolfo Jimenez Borbon of AnaMarcala S.A., a building materials company which contributed ¢ 11.2 million and Serporatla S. A., who are stevedores in Limón. They contributed ¢ 1.2 million. (La Nacion, 5 JUNE 2009, p. 4A)

Steven1,

In what way did I "dis" you other than to state that I basically agreed with what you wrote, but that, in my opinion it had little to do with the topic of this thread; that topic being prostitution, NOT CAFTA I do not understand your feeling threatened by me nor my comments. I have absolutely NO desire for anyone to, as you put it "kiss my ass". I have NO problem with anyone on this board disagreeing with anything I say (unlike some people). The only time I have ever had a problem with anything posted here has been when I questioned people posting negative comments about something I felt they did not have 1st hand knowledge of. I certainly did not, nor did I intend to imply that of you or your comments other than as I said; they really, in my opinion, have little to do with the subject of this thread. And if they do I simply wanted you to enlighten me as to how.

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder and have a problem with many on this board and especially me. For me that is fine, I would never expect everyone to like me nor agree with me on everything.

I would say also, you are correct that CR politics is not my forte. But I would say that the source of much of my info DOES KNOW CR politics much much better than everyone on this board combined, and that includes you and myself. (from an old and promanant CR family, 40 years in CR government and politics, and a close friend of several top politicians). YES, I would tend to believe much of what she says.

One thing that you did is, I believe, an absolute NO NO on this site. NO one should EVER use another members real name. I personally have no problem but many would.

How much you know or how much I know about the "real CR" is of little concern to me. I did not realize we were in some kind of competition. And if we are; quess what , the game is over I concede to you Personally I feel there are several on this board who have a much better knowledge of CR than you or I.

The rest of your obnoxious, unnecessary, and unwarrented derogatory remarks do not deserve a comment nor response

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Old and retired but still bang, and bang, and bang!!!

Funny....so MANY "you" statements and so few "I" statements. If anybody is "threatened" it sure ain't me; and as for "...the chip on your shoulder...." remark.....them's is your words and if the shoe (metaphor for word) fits, wear it. The "chip" ain't on mine....perhaps elsewhere?!

"...obnoxious, unnecessary, and unwarrented derogatory remarks...." don't come from my keyboard. Rather, they come from a gaggle of hens who can't stand a rooster in the barnyard interrupting their clucking. Ain't no infants being towed around by me and nowhere in my vicinity are chicas shoveling white powder up their collective noses. Those exact behaviors lead to what this political broad can grab onto and ride off into the glory grounds of election. But she is but one person from a single party and as I earlier noted, that party won by 1% which is most critical historically. I haven't even begun to post what the current party is doing to thwart CR civil demonstration. Want I should begin that next?

I fully expected for said hens to peck away once I began to post about a POLITICAL matter. As far as I'm concerned, the initial sortie of mine was civil and fact based but noooooo.....it couldn't be left alone.....it had to be dismantled by a potentate.....what goes around, comes around is my experience....and that includes women! My follow up posts have simply been an effort to help because I am such a nice guy who sees the forest for the trees.

Again, for those who really are interested in what's going on in the streets, pay very close attention to what the Citizen Action Party-PAC is doing.

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"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 16

I guess this all just goes to show that discussions of Costa Rican politics can be just as futile as discussions of U.S politics. So does anyone want to speculate as to whether or not Sarah Palin will run in 2012?

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It's faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, and more money--Tom T. Hall
No man is a failure who is enjoying life--William Faulkner