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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:16 pm 
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Ha! I preach for guys to learn Spanish on a mongering board so that can specifically benefit from being able to be more yourself and most still don't.

And it's being suggested to lean Mandarin or Hindu? Yea that will happen :roll:

As I've said before, Ch*ldren learn because they have to. Adults will learn but they need a reason, a benefit.

And as far as the chicas learning english, speaking from experience that's no walk in the park either.. :|

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Ha! And it's being suggested to lean Mandarin or Hindu? Yea that will happen :roll: Cujo


Boy...you is right....and them Asians and Southwest Asians, to use your very own way of expressing power, shall "....have the biggest bombs and the smallest conscience"... and that don't even include the ducats they be having soon enough.... :!: :arrow:

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To the original poster - I wouldn't even waste your money, unless you can physically verify that she is going to the class and studying. If you are not in the country, it is more than likely going to waste - makeup, drinks, cell phone bills - or - her backup plan because the rfm to gringo #1 failed.

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She is a non pro I have known for four years and has gone from no english to fairly fluent in the year or so she has been going. I was looking for a better deal. I have never recieved a rfm and would not respond favorably to one.


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This has trouble written all over it.....don't fall for it :arrow:

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chi and CC are correct...but so is Mark. This highlights the difference between a chica you knew for a hour one night and someone you have an ongoing knowledge of.

No, we can't just say that they are all anything. Some are a worthless waste of skin but there are mongers who are also a waste of natural resources. It is a sorting process and some are well worth your time and money. Some...not so much! :shock: :wink: :lol:

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Steven1 wrote:
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2) As to the relevancy of English question posed by Steven 1. If you talk to any native speaker of these languages, they will tell you they are very difficult languages to learn to read and write. I speak some Mandarin from living in China and Taiwan. But if I go out with my Chinese friends, I can last about 45 min., then have to go to English.The tones give me a headache.


Yes, these languages are beyond difficult to "master".....however, I am certain you know as well as I do that when the locals start blabbering in local speak during the course of "business negotiations" (anything involving money or security)....you're balls done been squeezed or removed if you don't even have the bare basics. It's best to have a functional understanding and not let on just how much of THEIR lingo you comprendo....correct?! Particularly when you're on their turf.... :)


Bare bones,I agree.The problem for most is the "artistic" nature of the language.It is quite possible for a Westerner to learn to write in Pinyang form (Englisized Mandarin format) and speak the language relatively well.But try to hand the Chinese associates a contract in Pinyang form and they will laugh you out of the room.It is the English equivalent of a good old Southern type handing you a contract full of thism's, dat dere's, and yoller's.Makes for a difficult situation.


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I have to agree with Pacc, That both veiws are correct. I sent a friends daughter to English school. Bought her a portable CD player and a complete tape set up so she can listen on the bus back and forth from where they lived. She was 17 then and 21 now. Does not speak any better than when I met them. Was hoping she could teach Mom. Did not work at all. Yet they have managed a Saloon on AVE 2 for all those years. Right around Travel agents that require you to speak English to work there.

I agree about Mandarin and Hindi. Yet I am also aware that 22% of Chinese speak English, Half of India speaks English and it is the universal langauge there. Malaysia, PI and Japan are all 60% Fluent in English. And they will never make a key board that you can writte Mandirian with. Maybe thought process at sometime in the future. So, We got lucky with English. We just have to go Metric. The US, Liberia, and Burma are the only places that are not metric. And they all speak english with several dialects. RED NECK being my dialect.

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They do make a Mandarin keyboard.I had one in my office in Taiwan.It has all characters and I had my teaching assistant put english letters underneath the character.So was sort of a hybrid.My aunt types in Japanese kanji more than in English due to living there so long.Her style of keyboard is much larger than the norm,but works well in Japan.


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I did not know there was a Mandarin key board. I had some Tiawian exchange students living in my house and going to English school during the day. Patrick, One of them was telling me that it would be impossible to do. As accent makes a big deal in that langauge. And you had to memorize a million Characters. We, will see with the future.

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Having educated a chica in English both in Costa Rica at Intensa and Berlitz and then in the US at a "FREE" ESOL program at the local adult education school, I can clearly say the free program is much better. All English teaching that I saw in CR was by rote memorization and taught by a Tico at Intensa and a German at Berlitz. The US program teaches English grammar the way I learned it in school. They teach grammar, reading and writing.

Now if you want to teach a chica English and then bring her to the US, enroll her first into Berlitz in CR and then bring her to the US on a student VISA. It's easier to get than a fiance' VISA and so long as she is in the local adult education ESOL class she can stay in the US. Bring her here under the Berlitz program and then move her to the local free adult education program. You also only have to agree to be financially resonsible for her for one year on a student VISA compared to five years under the fiance' VISA. After one year under a student VISA, she can get a work permit and a SS#. Amazing isn't it?

Here's a link to the Berlitz International Studies program that is handled by their affiliate company "ELS" for [The ELS American Education Centers support international students in pursuing their higher education studies in the USA!] http://els-aec.com Just find a university close to you and then contact the Director of the Berlitz program in San Jose to start the process. PM me if you want the contact name and number.

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Thanks Lenny, This is good info. I tryed to help Karla my last steady. There is another private school here in Arlington Va. And CR in Santa Anna. Called Inlingua. She did not seem interested. Even drove her out to Santa Anna for an interveiw. And told her she could get a nice young man here with no problem. Could transfer to a Community College after 3 or 4 months. She is a beautifull woman made to be a mother.

Thanks for the info. Guys, you should look into these other ways. In which you get to try the milk for awhile. And even help them with their futures. I think Karla knew I would not be paying for it any more and that was a deal breaker for her. That also helped me to see the difference in how a 19 year old bomb shell and a 50 something year old red neck were different.

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MarkL54 wrote:
Can any of you tell me what the going rate for classes are?


$300 - I've heard that this is the going rate for almost any problem/issue/need :D :D :D

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