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Hey dexter
Lets have a little chat tonight
Oh sorry I can not I have to bang your sister
AMF

Six incendiary posts in the space of 17 minutes (and a prior history that is none too exemplary either). Ignore this obvious troll. At the rate he's going he'll be banned from the board shortly. Or else he should be.

DexterRICH does not exhibit the linguistic markers of a Tico. He must be just a regular clown trying to be funny, or a disturbed guy with serious emotional problems.

As we say goodbye to the newest member of the BANNED List DexterRich

Guys I also banned his IP's if anyone sees anyone who resembles him under another handle please advise.

There is simply no room for the type of posts and comments made by this individual, sorry it took so long to get him gone.

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Thank you for supporting CRT!

Yup, I think we are/were dealing with a burned gringo novio. See this post from February (probably his most lucid post, which isn't saying much):

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"All them women gonna make me,
teach 'em what they don't know how..." TMIB

I always find saddness when I read strings like this. I also find glimmers of humanity also. How we come to judge, I will never know. And sometimes I read words no different from those written by 16th century slavers.

Some of us look for the best deal possible, at times seeing pu*sy as a comodity disconnected from mind, body and soul. Yes not all people are honorable. Not all are clean. Not all are ingenious or industrious.

But they have the right to ask whatever price they want. We have the right to walk away. To curse them for not selling themselves for the price we want to pay is "Wall Street greed" gone to somebody's dick.

Kent, I think you will leave with a smile on your face. And if not, at least you will know that your regard for others has caused no harm.

OldQDog

I was actually at the DR first week of Apr but I didn't start reading this forum thoroughly until I got back. I had an interesting encounter. It was about 4 am and I was hungry. So I am eating some pasta just watching the ladies. I noticed one girl looking around, just not really happy being there. She had the look that she really didn't want to be there but she had to. I did the craziest thing. I actually started to think like a human being and gave her $20. I told her that I hoped it got her closer to fixing her money problem. She started crying. Was she playing me? Who knows and I really don't care. Somewhere within this epic of a thread it was mentioned that these girls are people (yes, even the non-performing, cien holdouts). She ended up coming back to my place and I had a really good time. For the bean counters out there, she didn't ask for any money. I gave her $50 anyway. The smile on her pretty face was worth it all.

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my first wingman sent me this, how true

" most of the girls down here, lie as a self defense mechanism and to not have to face the truth, thinking most men couldn't accept them knowing the whole truth. Simpler, they may just want men to think they are as perfect as they want to appear to them, trying to hide what they consider to be the ugly truth about themselves. And I may be reading more into it than is there, but I do believe they consider the basis of the lies to be justified."

Q-dog, Dean: Thank you both. I believe I've just had a more profound spiritual rush than I've ever had on a Sunday morning.

Again I ask some others here: Do you view these women as human beings, with all that entails, or do you view them as some sort of sex vending machines? To say they view us only as ATMs seems to be the opposite face of the same coin as calling the chicas "sex vending machines." JMHO.

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Pura Vulva! Wandering through the dark, I am El Ciego.

Human or machine: as I see it they are human. They chose this profession for a number of reasons. I view them as actresses being paid for their performance. Members of the audience very in the degree to which they get involved in the performance. My degree of participation depends a great deal on the quality of the performance. If she's doing her job well I hang around for repeat performances. If she's not I move onto the next movie.

It would be my opinion that every one of us who has had repeat trips has at least once reached out a helping hand without expecting anything in return. Whether the emotion was genuine or contrived on her part is irrelevant it was the feeling it left us with that was satisfying. Even the roughest of us need a bit more than sex from time to time to make us feel good. Of course just my opinion.

Lee

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PS: DO NOT SEND MONEY!

El C,
Yes it would be different sides of the same coin IF it were as commonly the case. I'm sure there probably are many mongers that do only look at these women as Phuck machines that are there for their own pleasure. But as reflected in the postings one reads on this site, those types of mongers seem to be in the distinct minority (at least around here). OTOH, the attitude of most chicas viewing us as essentially walking ATMs seems to me to be far more prevalent, if not in whole then at least in part. One is far more likely to hear stories like the one above about a monger handing a chica some money expecting NOTHING in return or a sympathetic but very gullible monger sending money to a chica in response to a cynically delivered RFM mass mailing, than one is to hear about a chica providing a monger with a genuine freebie without at some point they're having gotten at least something in return (e.g. getting "freebies" after months of sessions, propinas and gifts). So who is really dehumanizing and using the other more here?

The issue being raised in this thread by most guys is NOT about the chicas RIGHT to ASK for whatever they THINK they can get, just the REASONABLENESS of that request given the tightness of the current economy.

Whether either or both sides recognizes the humanity of the other side or not, these sessions still come down to a commercial exchange at its basis. The chicas may like some of us or even get some pleasure out of some of their sexual encounter with us but in most cases they probably would not be phucking us if it weren't for the money we pay them (and I'm being charitable in even allowing that much in my depiction). And, while we may like them and "value them as human beings", I doubt most of us would put up with their vacuous uneducated conversation and telenovela style emotional drama if we weren't getting a "slice of their pie". So, like it or not, its largely or mostly a business deal.

So let's not sidetrack this discussion into some sort of touchy feely humanity debate. Yeah, yeah, yeah CHICAS ARE PEOPLE TOO. They can ask for whatever they want. They're just trying to make a living. Yada yada yada. That is completely beside the point of this thread! The point of this thread is whether the chicas are serving anybody's interest, INCLUDING their own, by holding out for amounts that it is increasingly less likely they'll be able to get.

This is especially true given the fact that a) more chicas are resorting to working places like the HDR in order to make the money they need to survive in CR's economy these days and b) because of the US economy, fewer gringos are coming to CR or, at least, those that are coming with less money to spend and are sitting around the HDR, holding out longer before "pulling the trigger" and only then for probably a MORE toughly negotiated amount than ever before.

If the chicas really feel going with us is not worth an amount any less than the high amounts they're unlikely to get, then maybe they should just stay home or stick to lower paying jobs that they don't find so unappealing. Similarly, if the chicas continue to insist on these ridiculously high amounts, given the state of the US economy, then maybe on their part EVEN MORE mongers will stay home than already are or else pursue more reasonably priced and agreeable mongering options elsewhere.

Great post Prolijo. One of your best ever - I actually read all the way through it...

GR

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Wow… Projito that is well written.

GR, thanks for the heads up… I actually went back and read the whole thing.

Mendo

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"It takes a lot of good beer to make a great wine"

It seems to me that the point of this thread is to discuss whether the economy has impacted price points at the HDR. Those that interjected their regard for the people delivering the services we seek opened the door for everything else. Want to reduce this to an economic debate. Cooollll!!

Being the good capitalist means buy low/sell high. So you want to buy low. Then get the price you want from whoever will sell at that price. But to pretend that statements like the above are not self serving is simply disengenuous. Which is a great capilalistic strategy if one can pull it off. I learned a long time ago, in capitalist school, that if someone can control the sellers price point then they are on their way to gaining an economic advantage in the marketplace. So being a good capitalist we also want to be able to judge what is in the seller's best interest. What is reasonable in their eyes. And in thier lives. Gaining control of the marketplace by any means possible is simply being a good capitalist.

At their best put downs, objectification and derogatory labels have been effective strategies to control the price points of sellers for decades. Not to mention win elections and control any other manner of resources. At their worst - being the good social psychologist I am, I won't even go there. This approach, I imagine, probably works with for some, and with come chicas at the HDR - some have told me some great gringo stories. But the approach does not work with all - therefore the tone of some in this thread.

Some of us are saying "what goes around comes around" What I am saying is that this brand of capitalism, controlling the marketplace through presuming to know and trying to control what is in the best interest of the seller is nothing more than privilidge shrouded in the same dogma that is alienating us from the rest of the world. Make no mistake some saw Bernie Madoff coming. And those standing outside his crib were not singing cumbaya.

So, I'm heading out in two weeks for my quartely pu*sy pilgrimage. What are chicas negotiating at the HDR? Any advice about my humanity can be checked at the door. I think by now everybody knows where I am coming from:-)

OldQDog

sorry, I do not know how to delete