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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:45 pm 
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There wouldn't be any older guys chasing young things on this board, would there be?

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Where do older men stand with younger women? 
Trish McDermott, VP of Romance, Match.com   
 
   
Dear Trish,
I am a single male, just turned 51 (but am told that I look and act 10 years younger). I am good looking, have many friends and have no problem meeting people, yet when I attempt to take a friendship with a younger woman further I am told that I am too old. Many younger women are looking for a mate with attributes that come from maturity and, let's face it, age. Yet when I attempt to connect with them I am rebuffed as being too old. It's funny, as the men in the age group that younger women are seeking are, on the whole, immature, and lack the social graces, chivalrous nature, and compassion for others that come with age. Plus they are very self-centered and are not ready for a LTR. How is the age factor viewed by women and where do older men stand?
— Younger at Heart

Dear Younger at Heart,
While fairytale love stories can come true and may happen to you, it doesn't take fancy mathematics to know they are less likely to happen if you focus the bulk of your dating activities on women who don't want to date you. As a fifteen-year veteran of the dating industry I can tell you that an equal and surprisingly large number of both men and women are convinced they — unlike their apparently crotchety, romantically threadbare and energy-depleted, run-down peers — look and feel 10 years younger than their actual chronological age. Perhaps this is a result of a societal misperception regarding the lives of older singles.

Today there may be as many 50 year old singles (both men and women) skiing, backpacking, world traveling and out dancing into the wee hours as there are those who prefer bingo or a card game as their primary social activity. Rather than continuing to attempt to date women who have ruled you out because of your age, and continuing what is probably a discouraging pattern of failure, you'll do better to find a woman who is closer to your own age but seems to have the stamina and physique of a woman ten years younger — in other words — someone just like you.

In Defense of Younger Men
Younger men aren't immature, they're simply younger, and as a result they may bring a different mix of capabilities and life experiences to the dating table than an older man. They, just like older single men, are a diverse group of people, some sexier, funnier, and more chivalrous, compassionate and adept in the social graces than others. It's unflattering, and some might even say self-centered, to believe you are somehow better than the men a woman prefers to date, or that you, and you alone, have what it takes to make a younger woman happy. It's also not working for you. Is it time to change your thinking?

What Younger Women Want
Younger women want what many of us want in dating and ultimately in love: great fun, fabulous romance, passionate kisses, engaging conversations, respect, understanding, honesty and a demonstrated willingness to do the work and make the compromises and commitments that relationships require. I commonly hear from younger women who are insulted by older men who won't respect their age range cut-off and see themselves as the exception to the age rule (because, of course, they look and act 10 years younger than their actual age). Women find this behavior disrespectful and these men very far from desirable.


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Ask yourself this: "Does the 80-20 rule apply to my dating efforts?" Anyone who has been to business school will remember learning about the Italian economist who developed the 80-20 rule which, loosely interpreted beyond its initial assumption regarding the ownership of land, suggests that 80% of your results in any area will come from 20% of your efforts. This rule has been applied to economics, time management and even gardening over the years, and it has its application in dating and romance as well. Based on some research we've done we estimate that fewer than 10% of single women in their 20's and 30's are open to dating a man who is 15 or more years older. Yet many older single men spend the bulk of their efforts, probably even more than 80%, attempting to attract and hold the interest of significantly younger women. The real opportunity, and the most likely chance for a healthy, meaningful relationship, may be in the area where some men devote the least amount of their romantic time — among their peers.
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Trish McDermott, Match.com's vice-president of romance and a founding member of the company, is a respected and sought-after pundit on dating, relating and mating in the new millennium. She calls on 15 years of dating and relationship industry experience as she oversees the love lives of millions of Match.com members. McDermott's philosophy on dating and relationships is simple: "Whether we are young or old, tall or short, rich or poor, famous or unknown, shy or outgoing, we are all uniquely special people with something extraordinary to offer a romantic partner - and fully deserving of deeply committed, passionate and loyal love in return for the love we give…." Learn more about Trish or send her your own question to asktrish@match.com.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:56 pm 
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This doesnt seem to be much of an issue here in San Jose :twisted: ...though I might add that not all regular chicas here are necessarily interested in older gringo males. I personally am always suspicious of the motivations of any chica under 30 who wants to be with ME at 50. Lets get real...it would most likely be about $$$, security, and/or getting to the USofA. Other than that, they are more interested in partying and pleasurable times with men more their own age. Fortunately for those of us who dont mind fantasy...there are plenty of young beautiful latinas here willing to date you and give you the fantasy of being your GF...but it will always cost you :roll: .


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:57 pm 
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Dear Trish
In responce to your responce to " Younger at Heart " , I regret to inform you that many " younger " women find me extremely attractive and sensitive to all of their needs , at 70+ , the average age women ( note the plural ) I sleep with are all in their mid twenties. :lol: Nowhere in your responce did you mention that having $$ attracts this age group 8)

Now please remove that cucumber from your ass and tell it like it is :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:03 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:46 pm 
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I'm just thankful that I do not have to waste my time on
trying to "date" women in the U.S. Being in my mid-40's,
I have no desire to date any women here. I can buy a plane
ticket and a hotel for a week in SJ, where I can have just
about any women I see, as long as the money flows.
The only "bags" left over is what I bring with me
back on the plane.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:33 am 
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Tman wrote:
This doesnt seem to be much of an issue here in San Jose :twisted: ...though I might add that not all regular chicas here are necessarily interested in older gringo males. I personally am always suspicious of the motivations of any chica under 30 who wants to be with ME at 50. Lets get real...it would most likely be about $$$, security, and/or getting to the USofA. Other than that, they are more interested in partying and pleasurable times with men more their own age. Fortunately for those of us who dont mind fantasy...there are plenty of young beautiful latinas here willing to date you and give you the fantasy of being your GF...but it will always cost you :roll: .


Your perception/opinions are exactly correct mi amigo! I fully concur.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:04 am 
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As it has always been, women are only as old as they feel, and men are only as old as the women they feel.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:15 am 
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Bingster Also LMAO:

This goes right to the problem with Gringas. A lady I dated many years ago and have had up until a couple of years ago had one of them off again on again things. HENCE SAME TIME I STARTED VISITING CR REGULARLY wonder if there is a conection?

Now I am mid 40's in shape, groomed etc. She for her age is a relatively decent looking gal, but to many years on the beach along with tanning bed syndrome has given her skin the look of an old prune which is a shame. We have remained friends though not as close as she looks at me with disgust of the photos of me and my ladies in Latin America. It's always what could those ladies want with you except your $$. They just want a Husband so they can come to the US. and the other dozen points she tried to make.

I still don't really analyze why they THE "YOUNG THINGS" are with us, but for sure I know why I'm not with the older gringas. Just the other day when this conversation ensued She said "Look at me I am getting better with age like a fine wine" SHE ACTUALLY SAID THAT! Here she is 45 year old gringa never married with more issues than 1/2 the civilized world and she said that. I finally had enough I told her yea a fine wine that started to turn to vinegar a long time ago. I don't think we are talking right now...

the only 80 / 20 Rule I know is I hope when I am 80 I can still have a lady in their 20's.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:53 am 
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I hope this article also dispells the rumor that a mans looks are important. Nor is money the most important. Confidence, wit, humor and just being yourself. No one can be all things to all people. Also remember that the "persued group" (young attractive women) can have whatever they want whenever they want. Hell, older men want them, younger men want them and probably over half of the females want them as well. You just have to find a way to distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack. Real women want real men.

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CapoD2TCapo wrote:

I finally had enough I told her yea a fine wine that started to turn to vinegar a long time ago. I don't think we are talking right now...



That's funny! Reminds me of when some of the middle-aged to 'older' women (especially those that have smoked for many years) first wake up in the morning and have not applied their make-up yet. Frightening. It's
amazing how much make-up can hide! Anyway, there are a couple of sayings...
'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
'Beauty is only skin deep'

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Dapanz1 wrote:

and probably over half of the females want them as well.


That's very true! I think there are many more bisexual females than people realize.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:11 pm 
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I agree 100% with shyone. Why waste your time and money on gringas,when you can fly down to CR and be in the saddle in half an hour.You get what your really after anyway,without the nonsense and b.s.If your gonna waste your hard earned bucks on a chica, you might as well have a good time and spend it on an enthusiastic tica!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:35 pm 
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I think that most women (gringas or not) are after security and a man who can take care of them.

Just like all those rich guys (in the US) who have super-hot, 20 year-old girlfriends.

Because of the exchange rates.... we're all rich guys in Costa Rica. I like what the other fellow said, "In Costa Rica, we're all rock stars."

However, I too am curious what the dating scene outside of the Del Rey is like.


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while I agree with Tman and Texrolex, I do want to point out that many chicas feel not only more secure with us older gringos, but also safer.
As Texasrolex pointed out, security is paramont with most women. One of the next concerns is safty. Tico men treat thier women lousey and us gringos are many times a safe harbor for them to go to.
An old ugly fat guy with 2 or 3 "novias" who are in thier 20's? For the avarage guy in the states, this ain't gonna happen! But for here, it happens all the time. Why the hell do you think I live here - because I like chicken, pot holes, petty crime and an unstable government? Hell no, its for the chicas who give me the time of day! (and then some).
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