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Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:17 pm

I'd say something else pops up too....jealousy, in large doses. :lol:

SnapperTrapper · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:24 pm

Jealousy, Really? I didnâ€™t think anyone who was opposed to the idea of falling in love with a working girl acted in any of the posts like they were jealous. Seems as though once hit by cupids arrow some of the fellaâ€™s drop their guard and lose all sense of reality. Thus try to live a fantasy relationship thinking that they wonâ€™t be like the rest of the fallen gringos who were burned by the â€œworking girlâ€ :shock:

BangBang57 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:10 pm

Thirdworld and Chi_trecker,

As for as I know neither one of you really know me thou I did meet Chi one time. Since I am the one that has been the most critical of and out spoken concerning this thread and the way Chi was obviously trying to reflame an old flame war with Prostoner, I also will asume you (thirdworld) are aiming your posts at me. You could not possible be any futher from the truth about me with your comments and if you knew me or had read many of my posts, you would know that.

My problem with Chi is that to me and many others, this was strickly an attempt to start the conflict with Prostoner up again. If this was not his intent, I apologize. But if it wasn't, what was the need to even mention Prostoner after the problems they had before. I, and many others just do not buy that it was not intentional and think it was UNNECESSARY!!

I have no anger nor anamasity towards anyone, and solely was pointing out what is obvious to a lot of guys. Prostoner has chosen to not respond to the inventation to a new war of words and is, I am sure, of the same feeling as a lot of us--relationships, no matter with who, are a personal thing and should only be hashed out in public if, and only if, the people involved choose to make their priviate lives public.

As for my comments about Chi's negativity about everything Costa Rica; yes, in the distant past he did post several valuable posts, but in the past 18 months or so, everything he has written has been extremely negative, derogatory, and argumentative. Go back and look at his threads over the past few months--everyone has resulted in a flame war, WHY :?:

In my post above, I merely asked why, if he is so miserable and unhappy with everything here (and I reached that conclussion from reading his posts as has many others), why would anyone that is so negative about a place continue to live here :?:

We all are very aware of how bad he thinks any relationship with a puta is (wonder why he feels sooo strongly about this and feels the need to lead the war against this :?:

) Many of us feel such relationships, in most cases, are a mistake, BUT there are exceptions to everything; and more importantly putting out the information that such relationships seldom work out in the long run is one thing. BUT to constantantly condemn anyone who does fall for a puta is IMO, uncalled for. Just as is implying or saying that if you walk anywhere in Costa Rica, you are going to get mugged is asinine, Yes there is a crime problem here just as there is in every city in the USA. Now if you are from smalltown 1950s USA, yes it is more dangerous here, but realistically, and in fact, it is less dangerous than many cities in the USA. Warning people of the possible dangers is one thing, but to tell people to not do this or don't do that or you WILL be mugged is just fear tactics that is IMHO going over board. Telling people it is very very dangerous here and if you go out alone, you WILL be mugged because you did something stupid and got mugged is just not right.

Like I said, if I am wrong about all this, I apologize, but it is just the way I see it.

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

BangBang57 wrote:

Thirdworld and Chi_trecker,

As for as I know neither one of you really know me thou I did meet Chi one time. Since I am the one that has been the most critical of and out spoken concerning this thread and the way Chi was obviously trying to reflame an old flame war with Prostoner, I also will asume you (thirdworld) are aiming your posts at me. You could not possible be any futher from the truth about me with your comments and if you knew me or had read many of my posts, you would know that.

My problem with Chi is that to me and many others, this was strickly an attempt to start the conflict with Prostoner up again. If this was not his intent, I apologize. But if it wasn't, what was the need to even mention Prostoner after the problems they had before. I, and many others just do not buy that it was not intentional and think it was UNNECESSARY!!

I have no anger nor anamasity towards anyone, and solely was pointing out what is obvious to a lot of guys. Prostoner has chosen to not respond to the inventation to a new war of words and is, I am sure, of the same feeling as a lot of us--relationships, no matter with who, are a personal thing and should only be hashed out in public if, and only if, the people involved choose to make their priviate lives public.

As for my comments about Chi's negativity about everything Costa Rica; yes, in the distant past he did post several valuable posts, but in the past 18 months or so, everything he has written has been extremely negative, derogatory, and argumentative. Go back and look at his threads over the past few months--everyone has resulted in a flame war, WHY :?:

In my post above, I merely asked why, if he is so miserable and unhappy with everything here (and I reached that conclussion from reading his posts as has many others), why would anyone that is so negative about a place continue to live here :?:

We all are very aware of how bad he thinks any relationship with a puta is (wonder why he feels sooo strongly about this and feels the need to lead the war against this :?:

) Many of us feel such relationships, in most cases, are a mistake, BUT there are exceptions to everything; and more importantly putting out the information that such relationships seldom work out in the long run is one thing. BUT to constantantly condemn anyone who does fall for a puta is IMO, uncalled for. Just as is implying or saying that if you walk anywhere in Costa Rica, you are going to get mugged is asinine, Yes there is a crime problem here just as there is in every city in the USA. Now if you are from smalltown 1950s USA, yes it is more dangerous here, but realistically, and in fact, it is less dangerous than many cities in the USA. Warning people of the possible dangers is one thing, but to tell people to not do this or don't do that or you WILL be mugged is just fear tactics that is IMHO going over board. Telling people it is very very dangerous here and if you go out alone, you WILL be mugged because you did something stupid and got mugged is just not right.

Like I said, if I am wrong about all this, I apologize, but it is just the way I see it.

You are judging not only my posting, which is largely factual, and not ALL negative. You are also judging my level of happiness. The latter is ridiculous and completely uncalled for, because as you stated in the beginning of your post, YOU'VE ONLY MET ME ONE TIME. SO, AFTER MEETING ME ONE TIME, WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ME ABOUT ANYTHING?

Finally, who the heck is saying Costa Rica is dangerous EVERYWHERE and ALL THE TIME????

BB,

It seems you are now taking this personally. The intent of this post is in its title NOVIO UPDATES. We are all just curious. Since, Prostoner (in my opinion) is right up there with Rolltide, why specifically ask for his update???? We only hear the good. The bad is usually whispered between friends.

BangBang57 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:34 am

Chi, with this post I am thru!! you obviously have not nor can not read your own posts--not just me but many have said you are extremely negative and you have blamed your own mistakes on Costa Rica being bad and dangerous. Maybe you did not mean them that way but that is how they have come across to many.

As for wanting to rehash "dating putas", in my opinion, this is just like several other subjects on this board in that it has been rehashed to death. I have heard many refer to this board as a "bunch of old maids with nothing to do but gossip about the mistakes of others" ; And many of those same people NO longer post here just for that reason!!!! In the eyes of many, You are hell bent to attempt to pull Prostoner into another war of words even after you have been told that he is no longer a member of this board and therefore even if he wanted to, could not post anything.

If you are so determined to have personal infomation laundred out here, WHY DO YOU NOT POST ABOUT YOURSELF??????????

I am through

Phoenix Rising · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:47 am

I think that the perception here, rightly or wrongly, is that Chi-Trekker is delighting in kicking a man while he's down. Giving him the "Beef Stew" treatment ala "Benchwarmers" as it were.

Many of of us got to know Prostoner personally after her arrived on the scene in mid 2006 as he was very very public about his story as a newbie passing through the fires of Costa Rica hobbying. There is a thread the length of a novel, if I remember correctly, of his trials and tribulations. Anyone that knew Pro counseled him AGAINST the path he eventually chose, with varying degrees of directness. We all saw him "swinging on the meat hook" and we hated it, but we knew that, as they say in co-dependent AA meetings...."We didnt cause it, can't control it. can't cure it." Short of an "Intervention, CRT style" there was nothing we could have done about it. I hope Pac55 is correct and that Pro is doing well and his relationship with Alecia is OK but I suspect that, to borrow another phrase, he is just putting "Lipstick on a Pig"

As men, I'm sure we all wish Pro, and Rolltide, and Patriot, and StingRey and ALL the other brothers who took this tragic path, all the best. They all made bad choices, and willingly handed over their testicles to weak chicas who could not resist the temptation to devour them. It is unsightly for us to see, because these guys are still living and breathing and suffering among us and there is nothing we can do about it. Guess it's understandable that in our frustrations we are wont to start threads like this one or J0sie's new thread on the subject or lash out into a pissing patch. Sometimes you want to beat the sense into these guys but it never works :lol:

But beating them up just leaves them weaker and is no help...and makes you look like a bully.... :idea:

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

BangBang57 wrote:

Chi, with this post I am thru!! you obviously have not nor can not read your own posts--not just me but many have said you are extremely negative and you have blamed your own mistakes on Costa Rica being bad and dangerous. Maybe you did not mean them that way but that is how they have come across to many.

As for wanting to rehash "dating putas", in my opinion, this is just like several other subjects on this board in that it has been rehashed to death. I have heard many refer to this board as a "bunch of old maids with nothing to do but gossip about the mistakes of others" ; And many of those same people NO longer post here just for that reason!!!! In the eyes of many, You are hell bent to attempt to pull Prostoner into another war of words even after you have been told that he is no longer a member of this board and therefore even if he wanted to, could not post anything.

If you are so determined to have personal infomation laundred out here, WHY DO YOU NOT POST ABOUT YOURSELF??????????

I am through

To be quite honest, my experience getting mugged was NEGATIVE. How to a put a positive spin on that? Boy - I'm still getting shit upon for that thread!!! The CRT reaction to that incident was unbelieveable and despicable. This is the same thread where PS chimed in and said "hey how does it feel when you are being judged?" and what not... then said something like "In another land, you should be thrown in jail for fighting back." WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! All just to kick me while I was down....

Regarding my other experiences in CR, I have been an open book and especially regarding my escapades with working women. I have posted the good, the bad and the ugly. Regarding my personal life in CR, and especially my relationship with a civilian, not posting on a public gentlemens board. Sorry man...

Regarding PS... I didn't know he is no longer a member. So, then lets all forget about him posting. But, lets look at the facts. He married the first girl he sessioned with on his virgin trip. Within three months, he moved down here. He was very public about the whole affair and we were just curious about the ending. Nothing more...

Phoenix - I didn't think I was kicking a man while he was down. From what I understand, he is super happy with his woman and is living outside of San Jose. Kind of like pulling a tooth - but we got something out of this.

Zippy · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:04 pm **Posts:** 2667

Sounds too good to be true it 99.9% of the time is! That goes with women as well as investments.......so many so...oo oh so TOXIC

!!

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:47 pm

I think we run amuck whenever we chose the weak as an example to say "see, I told you so" which seems to me to be Chi's wont. Yes, people who are prone to failure will fail with regularity. To extrapolate from that that the thing is impossible would be a mistake, in my opinion.

After all, it is the individual involved who decides the success or failure of a venture, how much he wants to invest and when to cash in his chips win or lose. He only comes with the tools he has assembled and if his tools aren't up to the task, he will fail. For us to judge the task based on his attempt is, in my opinion, the wrong conclusion.

All we really know is that that individual, expending that much effort, with that tool set, was unsuccessful in our opinion. And of course, each of us gets to define success according to our own parameters. A very stacked deck in my opinion.

Chi_trekker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 pm **Posts:** 1693

Pacifica55 wrote:

I think we run amuck whenever we chose the weak as an example to say "see, I told you so" which seems to me to be Chi's wont. Yes, people who are prone to failure will fail with regularity. To extrapolate from that that the thing is impossible would be a mistake, in my opinion.

After all, it is the individual involved who decides the success or failure of a venture, how much he wants to invest and when to cash in his chips win or lose. He only comes with the tools he has assembled and if his tools aren't up to the task, he will fail. For us to judge the task based on his attempt is, in my opinion, the wrong conclusion.

All we really know is that that individual, expending that much effort, with that tool set, was unsuccessful in our opinion. And of course, each of us gets to define success according to our own parameters. A very stacked deck in my opinion.

I agree with all you said - except the "I told you so part." Since I don't know him, I'm not gleaning any sort of glory out of this. Especially since he is not even on the board. Knowing this - its almost a mute point, except for the lonely traveler who is considering falling into the trap of some seasoned pro.

Unfortunately, the only outcome of this thread was that I pissed of BangBang... which was not at all what I wanted.

SnapperTrapper · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:58 pm

And the other point of this thread was to learn that PS is living happily ever after in regards to his relationship. Congratulations!

Livincr · **Joined:** Tue May 29, 2007 10:58 pm **Posts:** 839

Pacifica55 wrote:

He only comes with the tools he has assembled and if his tools aren't up to the task, he will fail. For us to judge the task based on his attempt is, in my opinion, the wrong conclusion.
.

In my past I worked as a builder, contractor, boatbuilder, carpenter and cabinet maker

some of my co-workers constructed amazing works of art with the minimum amount of tools.

It's not the amount of tools in the box, how you use them...what some might call game

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:12 pm

Okay, Livincr! Since it seems to me that your post is ego-based, YOU ARE A STUD!!!

Feel better? :lol:

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

Thirdworld wrote:

Sorry guys, but Chi has a much firmer grasps on the reality of CR than most on this board. I don't know him personally, and don't even know if he is an asshole... But, sometimes it is hard to hear and accept reality, when it conflicts with your version....just my two cents

Ditto....

Berk....

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:05 pm

Double ditto and Thank God! :lol:

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