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Indeed.

The thing is, the TSA guys don't know the limits of their power. That's not an excuse, but they're poorly trained and they think they have the right to do a lot of things in the name of "protecting the country".

If you listen to the tape, you hear one of them say that it's suspicious, and indeed it is, but he doesn't have the right to detain you over mere suspicion.

Cops often feel like their hands are tied by the law. And, in many cases, it is. but they forget that those laws are there to protect the civil liberties of the people.

After they play the recording, and are talking to Steve Bierfeldt (about 5:40 on the video), he mentions that Missouri law enforcement had sent out a report saying that Ron Paul and "Campaign for Liberty" supporters may be militia members. He just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Still it shows that if you have nothing to hide and hold your ground you will probably come out alright. Of course it might take a few hours to reach that end and you'll probably miss your flight by then.

I'm not sure whether they're obliged to tell him whether or not he's required by law to answer. Why would they have to do this? Clearly, he set the one guy off whenever he asked this question, so I would guess they knew he didn't have to answer, but like most cops, when you don't answer their questions, they get uppity.

It's too bad so much nonsense like this has grown out of that tragic event.

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You are correct ID; however, and in general, if the agent has reasonable suspicion that you may be violating a Federal law, then the agent can stop you and inquire. How you act during the inquiry can determine whether or not the agent bumps you to the next level of questioning. I know of a situation when a K*D has several hundred in cash, given by an older family member who lost faith in banks during the 1930s, to travel to a family event in another state. This was pre-September 11. The ticket agent reported the K*D because the K*D bought the ticket with cash. The agents confiscated the cash, and let the K*D go. The K*D, through his parents, sued and settled for 85% of the take.

from the context of the conversation around the video it seems unlikely that the cash was the issue. They wanted to harass him because of the group he represented, as opposed to because he was carrying cash, which was only the pretext for hassling him. They just didn't want violate any laws or civil rights doing it, which is why they didn't answer his questions, or later detain him. Sounds like it was mission accomplished for the TSA guys.

Thugs and tin gods though. The hawks have made sure of that, and these particular guys made use of their power to intimidate and to harass. It's not right, but it's the world we live in, and any experienced traveler these days knows that unless you have very good reason to do otherwise then you just nod, smile, and be polite. And don't answer even a scrap more than what they ask you directly.

So true & terribly sad. The USA is changing for the worst in almost all respects IMHO at an ever faster rate. Some seem to think the current policy will be to "bankrupt" us so their agenda of socialization can be achieved ?

I thought we were a Republic!

Here is a nice reminder to watch !!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGk6LG0GA4A

Just look at all of us hard working guys that pay a ton of taxes! We need to let loose every now & then to keep us normal & semi sane. They will finally cumm up with some kind of mongering tax !

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After reading the post and attempting to see the video ( 4 attempts and every time internet shut off each time the video started to play- gave up) I have a question—DID he pay cash for his ticket at the airport??? That is one of the things they use to “spot” drug dealers and terrorists , and despite any reason why you paid cash and no matter how much you are carrying, the odds they will want to talk with you.

Happened to me

In AMS a few years ago, I was changing flights At the airport and when asked how I wanted to pay cash or CC, I elected cash for some reasoning I cannot explain now or then, as soon as I said that the lady sure slowed down on the work she was doing, 20 minutes later and after she took a few calls I got my ticket, turned around and there was two cops there who invited me to come with them, so much for hitting the RD before 6 pm- 2 hours later they let me go. But they were sure I was 1) criminal or 2) a terrorist because I had a GPS in my checked luggage and PAID CASH and had a few thousand more in cash- ever paid for a hotel room down town AMS you need a few thousand-. ( I use the GPS to wonder around and be able to get back to a starting point- hotel, bus stop train stop- I like to take long walks on back streets) I tried to explain that to them, but they said only criminal/terrorist owns a GPS ( does that make our soldiers terrorists? They carry them also)—they sure did not like my next answer—IN USA we put them in our cars, and at times I need one to get from my house to town, or off a lake— THAT was a fun two plus hours.

And all this from paying Cash for a ticket at the airport.

Just wait until these same people start controling ALL our healthcare options....

" ...when was the last time you smoked a cigar???...

10 years ago... NO you can't have a heart transplant because you caused you own problem....


Brave new world... ???? Orwell wasn't very far off...

Peace brothers... while you still can with out Government permission...

PIDD

I watched both videos. But the one about the republic was an eye opener. The foresight and the wisdom of the founding fathers is simply amazing. It certainly looks like we are on the slippery slope.

Too late, amigos. When the former administration decided to shred the Constitution and we did nothing we sold our freedom for false security. As long as those crimes go unpunished we have no chance of regaining our freedoms.

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Funny how inept the state government of Missouri and the individuals who work for them are. If you watched the entire clip, you see them talk about a plain clothed person (FBI) come into the room and tell the TSA he could leave. LOL. The TSA has no idea the laws they enforce let alone which bodies enforce them. The one guy kept saying -your going to have to talk with the DEA...idiot.

4,700? What a joke.

Witling, is it true that Circus was detained for carrying large amounts of undeclared, oversized napkins into CR?

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You got that right my friend. It really doesn't surprise me though. Regarding the video, I would have done the same thing the guy did. I always carry between two and three thousand dollars in cash to CR, and if I'm ever asked about it, I'll respond in much the same way. Of course once they run a background check, I'll most likely be in jail in no time, because of my 'record'. That's when the lawsuits will start to fly. Of course, I don't think you actually can sue the government, but I definitely would send off letters to a few politicians.

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Amen to that! Turns out George Orwell really was quite the phophet.
He was 'spot on', as the Brits say.

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