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Regarding everyone's favorite topic "When Paying For Sex, Is It Really ALL About the Money?", I'd like to posit a scenario...

Let's say it's a typical night in the Del Rey, and Hooker A has a choice of going with Monger A or Monger B. Monger A is a longtime repeat customer with whom Hooker A enjoys a good rapport. He generally pays her anywhere from $60-$80 per session, depending on how long she hangs around. Monger B is a Del Rey newbie who doesn't seem objectionable in any specific way, and has agreed to pay Hooker A $200 for a standard session with no specific performance deliverables (i.e., BBBJ, kissing, DATY, etc.).

Now, some may say it also depends on how badly Hooker A needs the money at that time. Personally, I would maintain that whatever Hooker A's present financial condition, 99% of the time she would choose Monger B and take the $200 session.

So in that sense, 99% of the time, it really is all about the money.

Anyone who's been around for very long I think would agree with me that the above scenario is not in any way far-fetched or even uncommon. Moreover, in the event Monger B was only paying $100 rather than $200, I would maintain that Hooker A's tendency to take that deal would over the nicer guaranteed - but less lucrative - experience, would only decrease slightly.

Any arguments to the contrary?


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Anyone who's been around for very long I think would agree with me that the above scenario is not in any way far-fetched or even uncommon. Moreover, in the event Monger B was only paying $100 rather than $200, I would maintain that Hooker A's tendency to take that deal would over the nicer guaranteed - but less lucrative - experience, would only decrease slightly.

If that were the scenario, you may be right, GR. But that is not how the scenario plays out. She doesn't get two at a time with varying payment plans, she gets one, maybe. The either/or choice is not an option.

As I have also mentioned many times, the best deals with the most popular girls (the ones GR must be referring to) are had on the slow nights. Don't sqander your ego trying to get a "10" to give you a good deal on a Saturday night. Meet and compliment her Saturday and let her know you will still be around when the weekend high-rollers are gone.

Again, it is very rarely a competition between mongers for her time. It is what you offer against nothing or the hope of something in the future.

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Anyone who's been around for very long I think would agree with me that the above scenario is not in any way far-fetched or even uncommon. Moreover, in the event Monger B was only paying $100 rather than $200, I would maintain that Hooker A's tendency to take that deal would over the nicer guaranteed - but less lucrative - experience, would only decrease slightly.


If that were the scenario, you may be right, GR. But that is not how the scenario plays out. She doesn't get two at a time with varying payment plans, she gets one, maybe. The either/or choice is not an option.


Sure it is. I'm not saying there's some kind of public auction going on, with each Monger simultaneously putting forth their highest bids. But what is common is for Monger A to have "an arrangement" of sorts where he tells Hooker A that he wants to hang out for a while and session in an hour or so, with Hooker A knowing what the typical session rate is going to be. Meanwhile, while Monger A is indisposed for some reason for a few minutes, Monger B moves in, makes the higher offer, and off she goes, with nary a thought to the prior arrangement.

I would also say that on any given night, 90% of the girls in the DR will blow off ANY guy no matter what kind of "game" or anything else he brings to the table, and go with the first palatable option that is willing to meet her preset asking price.


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But what is common is for Monger A to have "an arrangement" of sorts where he tells Hooker A that he wants to hang out for a while and session in an hour or so, with Hooker A knowing what the typical session rate is going to be.

Didn't seal the deal, GR. Rookie mistake.

And I absolutely agree that 90% of the top-end working girls at HDR will go with the monger meeting her asking price on a Friday night. Never try to pull a lioness off a fresh kill! :lol: :shock:

GR - You keep trying to show that guys can't get a better time than just money can buy when you know that is far from true. Why? :?:

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The only thing I would offer to GR's post is that the $200 could be $81


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GetRhythm wrote:
Regarding everyone's favorite topic "When Paying For Sex, Is It Really ALL About the Money?", I'd like to posit a scenario...

Let's say it's a typical night in the Del Rey, and Hooker A has a choice of going with Monger A or Monger B. Monger A is a longtime repeat customer with whom Hooker A enjoys a good rapport. He generally pays her anywhere from $60-$80 per session, depending on how long she hangs around. Monger B is a Del Rey newbie who doesn't seem objectionable in any specific way, and has agreed to pay Hooker A $200 for a standard session with no specific performance deliverables (i.e., BBBJ, kissing, DATY, etc.).

Now, some may say it also depends on how badly Hooker A needs the money at that time. Personally, I would maintain that whatever Hooker A's present financial condition, 99% of the time she would choose Monger B and take the $200 session.

So in that sense, 99% of the time, it really is all about the money.

Anyone who's been around for very long I think would agree with me that the above scenario is not in any way far-fetched or even uncommon. Moreover, in the event Monger B was only paying $100 rather than $200, I would maintain that Hooker A's tendency to take that deal would over the nicer guaranteed - but less lucrative - experience, would only decrease slightly.

Any arguments to the contrary?


....and if Monger A plays his cards right...he will wait the 35 minutes it takes her to go up and down the elevator, then give her a High 5 as she beams and bounces over to him with her bolsa llena con dinero...and then go out with her and paint the town on her dime!! :lol: 8)


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Phoenix Rising wrote:
GetRhythm wrote:
Regarding everyone's favorite topic "When Paying For Sex, Is It Really ALL About the Money?", I'd like to posit a scenario...

Let's say it's a typical night in the Del Rey, and Hooker A has a choice of going with Monger A or Monger B. Monger A is a longtime repeat customer with whom Hooker A enjoys a good rapport. He generally pays her anywhere from $60-$80 per session, depending on how long she hangs around. Monger B is a Del Rey newbie who doesn't seem objectionable in any specific way, and has agreed to pay Hooker A $200 for a standard session with no specific performance deliverables (i.e., BBBJ, kissing, DATY, etc.).

Now, some may say it also depends on how badly Hooker A needs the money at that time. Personally, I would maintain that whatever Hooker A's present financial condition, 99% of the time she would choose Monger B and take the $200 session.

So in that sense, 99% of the time, it really is all about the money.

Anyone who's been around for very long I think would agree with me that the above scenario is not in any way far-fetched or even uncommon. Moreover, in the event Monger B was only paying $100 rather than $200, I would maintain that Hooker A's tendency to take that deal would over the nicer guaranteed - but less lucrative - experience, would only decrease slightly.

Any arguments to the contrary?


....and if Monger A plays his cards right...he will wait the 35 minutes it takes her to go up and down the elevator, then give her a High 5 as she beams and bounces over to him with her bolsa llena con dinero...and then go out with her and paint the town on her dime!! :lol: 8)


And also put up with a lot of drama and grief if he has the audacity to look sideways at another chica in the Del Rey while she's gone. And you think we're impressed, Novio-boy???? :P :wink:

Tell you what Pac - after giving it some thought, I actually agree with you that it's not really "all about the money". All things being equal, I don't think a monger is going to necessarily get a better session if he pays more money, or goes with a chica who normally charges $200 instead of one who normally charges $60. Which is all the more reason to drive a hard bargain, make sure the services you want are on the menu, and don't pay any more than you absolutely have to. And if she won't meet YOUR standards for what you think she's worth price-wise, or perform the services YOU require, simply move on to the next.

And while I agree that the monger himself can bring some things to the table that will help tip the odds in his favor; i.e., personal attractiveness and physical condition, pleasant personality, speaking the language, acting like a gentleman, "game", etc., I don't think ANY of us are so Brad Pitt-godlike that we can get a great session out of every chica every time out of the box, melting the hearts of even the iciest of bolt-on Colombianas like butter.

Nope - I actually think there is one overriding factor that is more important than either of these that is really the main determinant of how much success you'll have with most of your sessions on a given trip.

To be continued...


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Regarding everyone's And also put up with a lot of drama and grief if he has the audacity to look sideways at another chica in the Del Rey while she's gone. And you think we're impressed, Novio-boy???? :P :wink:



Drama schmama! Chica and drama are two words that go hand in hand at the best of times! :lol: A certain stinky little surfer girl comes to mind... :shock: :wink: :lol:

All I am saying is there is nothing thats gonna put a chica in a good mood like a bag full of CASH...and even better...knowing that she did JACK SHIT to acquire it! YOU want to be the MONGER ready for the fun and games when she walks out of the elevator all smiles... :wink: She's made her nut for the night and now its time to PARTY! And you are always going to get 110% service from a chica that likes you and knows she can pay the rent!
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I never walk up to them. Let them see your interest and then let her come to you or give a signal for her to come talk to you.

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Nicely done Bilko 8)

I have a question/different perspective. Despite the economic woes, don't you think some chicas base their price on the interest the monger has to her?

To explain further; A chica engages a mongers eyes from across the room. He smiles, she reciprocates. Moments later he walks up and introduces himself and small banter begins.

During this time, do you think a chica is gauging the sexual interest the monger has in her and sets her price accordingly i.e. (chica) "this guy REALLY wants to hook up with me, so I can get cien".

Your post was spot on, but I wanted to add this perspective to get some thoughts.

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While I can not make any statement based on my personal experience in CR mongering because my first trip there for this purpose is still more than a month away, I can make a statement on my experience in dealing with people.

Here's the situation.

Monger A- is 50+yo, 50 to 75lbs over weight, balding slightly, sweaty, looks as though he could use a shower and a shave (I would say dirty and smells but lets just assume he could do better but just doesn't care because he has $$ and thinks that is all that matters) , is loud and obnoxious, drinking non-stop (read that as meaning... drunk), plays grab as with ever tica that walks by, clothes looks like he is a character in a bad Hawaiian sitcom, doesn't speak or understand one word of Spanish and doesn't care.

Monger B- is 50+yo, not a playgirl model type could stand to loose 5 to 10 lbs, balding slightly, clean, shaven, is respectful, drinking moderately, respectful, having a good time talking to other guys as well as ticas, nice clothes, doesn't speak much Spanish but tries.

Other conditions- Tica has no intention of trying to rip off an easy drunk monger. Both mongers appear to have same ability and propensity to spend cash. Neither is known to the Tica. Tica does not have a fetish for fat, bald, stinky, drunken gringos.

Is tica more or less likely to come off cien with Monger A or B? Is same tica more or likely to offer additional services to Monger A or B?

I find it very hard to believe some people don't get this simple concept. These working girls are just like anyone else, they have feelings, emotions and preferences. I can not imagine that anyone in their right mind would say Monger A is more likely to get better terms or service. Make no mistake it is about the MONEY! It is not however ALL about the money. Sure this is a business but it is a business that has a personal side to it with intimacy at least at some level. This is their job and the ones that have been around it long enough know it but they are still people with same basic needs and desires as the rest of us.


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I find it very hard to believe some people don't get this simple concept. These working girls are just like anyone else, they have feelings, emotions and preferences.

I can not imagine that anyone in their right mind would say Monger A is more likely to get better terms or service. Make no mistake it is about the MONEY! It is not however ALL about the money. Sure this is a business but it is a business that has a personal side to it with intimacy at least at some level. This is their job and the ones that have been around it long enough know it but they are still people with same basic needs and desires as the rest of us.


Amen to that.

Personally I do not agree with the "chicas are cuts of meat at the local supermarket" mentality. However, you can certainly choose to treat them that way. YMMV.

Or you can choose to treat them like you would treat any service provider -- with suitable courtesy and the respect they earn while providing you with service.

To each his own.


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Nope - I actually think there is one overriding factor that is more important than either of these that is really the main determinant of how much success you'll have with most of your sessions on a given trip.

To be continued...


Still anxiously waiting amigo 8)

Could you please also define "success" are we talking session experience, money, etc..?


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Other conditions- Tica has no intention of trying to rip off an easy drunk monger.


She doesn't? Since when? :? :?


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I liked what you had to say KenLee.


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