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What I learned from this thread:

1) Times are tough in SJO... or not !?
2) Learn Spanish (good thing I already speak it :D)
3) Cujo lives in the same city I do and he's the Gulch's George Clooney
4) Pacifica is about to have a lovely baby girl (congrats!)
5) Someone actually had sex with 42 girls in 8 days :o... damn that is nuts but to each his own...

I find it is always better to treat people with respect, regardless of how they come across or what their situation in life is. That stripper, MP chica or escort is someone's daughter or mother, and despite how cold and cynical she may be, she's still a human being.

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Miamiheller wrote:
What I learned from this thread:

1) Times are tough in SJO... or not !?
2) Learn Spanish (good thing I already speak it :D)
3) Cujo lives in the same city I do and he's the Gulch's George Clooney
4) Pacifica is about to have a lovely baby girl (congrats!)
5) Someone actually had sex with 42 girls in 8 days :o... damn that is nuts but to each his own...

I find it is always better to treat people with respect, regardless of how they come across or what their situation in life is. That stripper, MP chica or escort is someone's daughter or mother, and despite how cold and cynical she may be, she's still a human being.

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Wonderful summary hombre. :wink:

By the way, I scanned through all the essays written to me. All the defensiveness is what is most telling, eg. "no no I really am a Don Juan. No, he really is, he gets tail all over the world and is just in C.R. for a beer with the guys and to bed down hookers for free".... Rich stuff guys. Thanks, plenty entertaining..... :lol: :lol:


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Nice selective reading, no need to post it twice though. The offer of a free drink on me still is extended for you and you're boy Loco Mike. You don't have to address the tough questions or comments, I get it..


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And Express321; at first I wasn't even going to comment....

I conceede the fact that you (and Loco Mike) don't get it. At the sametime I'm trying to understand it from your angle.

Because the truth is if I came to CR for the chicas, I'd be disappointed. I'm not saying I'm not a monger,

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Come on dude there is barely a thread that goes by that you and your pals don't comment on. It just your nature, to know it all or have an answer or reply to everything, it doesn't make you a bad person it just makes you a "Know it all", I like people who know it all because I dont know much and I always learn from others who know more than me.

Don't get it? The problem with know it all's like you and Pacifica is that you really dont know as much as you think. You build each others egos on board such as this one as demonstrated by the number of post you make and the nature and redundancy of your post.

Excuse me for really deviating but both of you remind of some lawyers I was dealing with recently on a case here in South Florida. They were like you are to chicas and CRT, God's gift to the law. They knew it all. They were some of the best and brightest litigators in South Florida, were AV rated ect... At stake in the case was the validity of a settlement agreement that involved about $500,000.00. I was working on the case with another lawyer and we were going to cut up 25% if the agreement was upheld by the judge. During the pendancy of this litigation I received a number of letters that were of the same nature and tone of Pac's post. This is the way it is, your wrong...I'm right... blah blah blah blah.... If we filed a 4 page motion they responded with a 20 page motion. If we wrote a 1 page letter to the judge they wrote a 5 page letter explaining why our one page letter was wrong. We should just drop the entire matter and concede their point. For a number months the other side would never listen and consider the other side of the argument.

Well anyhow we get to court and the judge sets aside six hours for this hearing. About 45 minutes into the hearing the lightbulb goes of in the judges head and she realizes that the other side is completely full of legal crap. She calls a sidebar and essentially tells the other side the jig is up and it's time to pack up the briefcases and go home. But being like Pac & Cujo these guys just argue on and on and on....making the same points over and over again. They were arguing to the judge that she just didn't get it. They knew so much they couldnt bring themselves to understand simple points. At the end of the day the judge ruled in our favor and then awadred another $25,000 in attorney fees for enforcing the agreement. They & their client finally GET IT.

The point to be made is that nobody knows everything about everyything. This stuff, mongering in CR, is not rocket science. It's not figuring out the cure for cancer or any other deadly disease or illness. It's getting on a plane with a good disposition, a little bit of $$$ and going to have a good time. Some of the folks who post ad nauseum think that it is some graduate level science which is why they post all the "I GOT GAME" stuff. In actuality they have "KEYBOARD" and are either retired or have a job/business that allows them alot of extra time to post endlessly about the same topics.

I have meet plenty of CRT guys during my trips and most of them are very successful in their various fields of endeavor. They are well educated and well spoken. They dont need to hear the same thing 500 times in order for them to understand it. It takes an extraordinary arrogant person to repeat themselves that much on an internet message board.

I can only speak for myself but I go to Costa Rica for the same reasons many of the others on this board go for. I have friends who live in Costa Rica, I have some limited business interest in the area, I got to relax and party with the chicas. My average stay is 3-4 days. I go about 5-6 times per year. When I go to the HDR I know what I am there for and so do the chicas. What's the mystery? What's the science? What exactly is it that needs to be told to me, or any other person, 500 or more times?

MarkL54, I agree with your point about everyone has to find their own zone. I think most of the regulars that go to CR have found thier own confort zone. With respect to the remark about Berk I have a couple of comments. I realize that Berk is persona non grata to alot of people on this board. To each their own. My take on Berk is that he comes across like a glass of ice cold water being splashed in your face. It gives you a real jolt. He can be rough and rugged but he is usually on point. Mongering and CR is not for everyone. Some people get crushed in the process. Berk tries to point that out in a very forthright manner.

My remark, which could be considered to be like Berk, was a cold remark. If other members take offense I apologize to them. However, the point I am trying to make is that someone who knows everything about everything should know a little bit about sexual responsibilty. In a worst case scenario you can die from having unprotected sex with a prostitute. He regularly and redundantly tells everyone else how to take care of their business and apparently didn't take care of his own business. Good luck to him and the K*D.


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Mike, I don't want this thread to be about me (trust me). I also don't mean to come off as a know it all, so maybe I should change my approach when commenting.
By the same respect I could say the same about mongers like you i.e. think it's all about the money, thinks only guys who can't score girls at home must be in CR for chicas, thinks (because of their own inability) that what others say that doesn't fit the p4p mold must be bullshit etc. etc.. etc..

So, even though I don't perceive you as a know it all; you're mindset and inability to look at it from the other side makes it just as bad.

I'm not into throwing daggers or whatever, hence why I said I'd like to buy you both a beer. And I promise not to stroke your ego either :P

I've had quite a few guys tell me how great Medellin is and how I would have a blast there yadda,yadda,yadda. It's tough for me because I value their opinions but they also know I won't go unless there's a "crew" of guys going with me, that goes for Rio as well. Doesn't that in a way backup some of what I'm saying? Here I am saying there's nothing wrong with going to CR and phucking as many chicas as possible. But you have a problem with guys wanting to go to CR to party with good friends and have a good time.

So it is all about the party to me. Girls will come and go, the memories I have with my boys will have to last me through my golden years and that's what's important to me.

This simply started as me saying for the millionth time for guys to learn spanish to increase your experience. I don't need to prove anything to anybody. I want you guys to learn and be more yourselves with the chicas and prove it to me. Some guys might go for it and learn (even if it takes years) then maybe see me at the 15th annual CRT party and say "damn Cujo, thanks for being such a pain in the ass." I will know right then CR is a different place for you now. To that I say welcome aboard 8)

This isn't about me dude. It's about thinking of a different way to monger. There have been some great comments sprinkled through this thread. Not just from Pac but from quite a few. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, then listen to them.

In closing, I don't have a beef with either of you guys, we don't know each other which is prolly why this thread has morphed into a telephone book. I also wouldn't give you a disingenuous "I feel sorry for you" either.

Maybe in a couple of years I will look at things differently. Because I really am just one of the guys. But the reality is, no matter what other guys do or weather it's a "buyers" or "sellers" market, it won't effect my time or experience while in CR.

So if you ask me, I say lets party. Everything else will work itself out :wink:

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I think that everyone has their own ideas about mongering in CR and all over the world as well.

Maybe some regular posters and their view points come across to others as patronizing or smug even but we have to believe it is their sincere views or beliefs.

Finally as the old Gilbert and Sullivan song goes " And YOU are right and I am right and we are ALL of us ALRIGHT " .

So can we say that SJ is still not affected by the hard times in the US of A ???

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Loco Mike,

I completely get your point. Thank you for eruditely expressing your POV.

If you were referring to my comment about my perception of Berk's POV, note that I made no derrogotory remark whatsoever. I simply expressed what I believe to be Berk's take on this, as exemplified by his long-rhunning tagline if nothing else.

I'm not going to argue this anymore, except to say that from my limited experience, those of us who choose to treat the chicas as if they were not prostitutes, but rather as girl-pals we can party with and yes, befriend during our brief times together , enmjoy better mileage and perhaps even have more fun. Cujo is an easy example as I pointed out above, but not the only example certainly. And if Pacifica, Cujo, I or anyone else expressed strong opinions on this, it is because we feel we have found a way to have a better outcome and sometimes, a less-expensive outcome. We want to help those with less experience have a better time.

I roll one way, you certainly might roll another.

One thing that no one has yet discussed here is whether or not the current economic crisis is affecting the chica's behavior. Have they become more agressive? Beyond price, has any other aspect of the game changed?

Now let me tell you why this particular blind know-it-all posts as much as I do. It is from discussions like this, including a different point of view, that informs me and helps me to stay safer, spend less cash but more semen and have a better time on my trips to C.R.

I have played it both ways: focused on money and services, and trying to be more casual and romantic. The latter works better for me.

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"I`m such a playboy" free all nighter stories. Who are you trying to convince? Yep, it`s your fantasy. Guys with so much game aren`t hanging around whorehouses preening and instructing other Johns. At least I`ve yet to meet one.... "

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Pacifica and Cujo need to get a room.

Remember that when 55 year old fat guys are claiming a guy is Brad Pitt...consider the source.


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"I`m such a playboy" free all nighter stories. Who are you trying to convince? Yep, it`s your fantasy. Guys with so much game aren`t hanging around whorehouses preening and instructing other Johns. At least I`ve yet to meet one.... "

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Pacifica and Cujo need to get a room.

Remember that when 55 year old fat guys are claiming a guy is Brad Pitt...consider the source.


:lol: Man, you're clueless. :lol: I can't see if anyone looks like Brad Pitt...but I surely have witnessed the outcomes. :lol:

What Blazers, jealous? :P

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One thing that no one has yet discussed here is whether or not the current economic crisis is affecting the chica's behavior. Have they become more agressive? Beyond price, has any other aspect of the game changed?


Nothing has changed insofar as I could tell a few weeks ago. If anything, attitudes seemed even more hardened, with the chicas more determined than ever not to come off of their hallowed cien.

Okay, I've been around a little bit, especially in Costa Rica. Try to keep in shape, stay well-groomed, even make sure my balls are freshly shaved before each trip. Try to respect the chicas and have fun with them when possible. I wouldn't go so far to accuse myself of having "game" though...

Let me tell you that none of this meant diddly-squat in the Del Rey/Key Largo the Saturday night after El Silencioso's party. I talked and/or danced with at least five chicas, and each time the topic of price and services came up, it was CBJ and $100 for an hour. Even had one approach me directly in the Del Rey - a super hot black chica from Limon who had been with a buddy of mine last September. I had talked with her some then and established a good rapport. Didn't matter - same story.

I ended up not pulling the trigger and going home solo. As I've said before in this thread, I just don't think ANY chica in Costa Rica is worth that kind of money for that level of service.

BTW - for the record, I never did pay cien the entire trip. Two decent sessions with girls I repeated with from before were $60 each, a 3-some that I cut short because I thought the girls were too mechanical I paid $50 each, paid a non-pro $50 for a TLN mainly just to get rid of her, and had a bomb 3-some that we shot on video for $80 each. All were BBBJ, and all were pulled out of Sportsmens or by private appointment.


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El Ciego wrote:
One thing that no one has yet discussed here is whether or not the current economic crisis is affecting the chica's behavior. Have they become more agressive? Beyond price, has any other aspect of the game changed?

For us, it's current economic crisis. For them, it's less gringos in DR, "no business".

99% of them don't know and couldn't care any less about what is going on in the world around them. They have certainly not adjusted their attitude or "business model" at all.


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Wow. Mind reader! And you still don't get it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I may not get it but at least I know how to walk into a drug store/pharmacy and "GET" a box of condoms and then use them. Do you?

Your game is sexual roulette ! It seems to me that you spun the ball and then ball landed on the double zeros. In other words you lost.

Your game is very very dangerous because if you lose you can get an STD, some which can result in death, or an unwanted pregnancy. I like playing games of chance but I'll pass on your game.

Get it?

I'll tell you the same as I told the last guy: The girl I love and who loves me is having my little girl. I have never been happier. We chose to have a babe together. How that equates to games of chance I have no idea.

What I do with my dick and my girl is our business. What this has to do with the topic at hand is beyond me except that when you run out of logic you fall back on personal attack. Does not look good on you.
Pac having a baby? :shock: Is this the same guy who was preaching to me in the DR never go sin condom? :oops: Please tell me it isn't true? :? I only hope you have the pre-nup already and signed or you can say goodby to that nice retirement check. :( But, on the other hand congrads to the new baby girl, :D hope all works out. :) Does this mean your done with the P4P scene? :lol:

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One thing that no one has yet discussed here is whether or not the current economic crisis is affecting the chica's behavior. Have they become more agressive? Beyond price, has any other aspect of the game changed?

For us, it's current economic crisis. For them, it's less gringos in DR, "no business".

99% of them don't know and couldn't care any less about what is going on in the world around them. They have certainly not adjusted their attitude or "business model" at all.


Generally speaking, I'd agree, Orange...but on my trip in March, I was suprised to talk to quite a few girls in the DR who commented on how slow things had been & asked how the economic situation was in Canada (after I told them where I'm from).

I'm fortunate in that my job is only minimally affected by this whole thing. A few were surprised to hear I'd be back in May, ie so soon.

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