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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:21 pm 
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$100US is a reasonable price for an all nighter(8 hours or so). If they refuse to go down in price, then they should reevaluate the value of a $100ST.

This is especially true for Colombian girls. They have costs for travel,living etc BUT they send money home and purchase things in Colombian pesos when they are home. Over a year ago, $100 would get them 187,000 pesos and now it gets them 255,000 pesos....huge windfall.


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$100US is a reasonable price for an all nighter(8 hours or so). If they refuse to go down in price, then they should reevaluate the value of a $100ST.

This is especially true for Colombian girls. They have costs for travel,living etc BUT they send money home and purchase things in Colombian pesos when they are home. Over a year ago, $100 would get them 187,000 pesos and now it gets them 255,000 pesos....huge windfall.


$12.50 per hour is reasonable? For top talent? I think your post is very very unrealistic. $80-$100 in the evening at the HDR has been the going rate for the last 4 years that i know of. The better looking women are not going to TLN with you for $100 when they can get $80-$100 for one hour. In the daytime it is approximately $20 less or $60-$80 for the nicer looking chicas.

It's been posted on numerous occasions on numerous threads that we, CRT members, only play a small factor in the prices. Most people who go to the HDR do not negotiate like some of the more frugal people on this board do. They see something they really like and they pay. Why do you think these women open for a $100? Because they never receive it or because it's a good place for them to start?

I would love to be a fly on the wall when you start negotiating based on the foreign exchange rate. Huge windfall? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how much the cost of things went up in their country of origin. The bottom line is that the chicas who are smart and know how to ply their trade are going to get their $$ regardless of what you are willing to pay or not.


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The better looking women are not going to TLN with you for $100 when they can get $80-$100 for one hour. .


Mike, I understand where you're coming from, and your logic is not faulty, but the fact is that many of the higher end girls WILL go all night for $100 if the conditions are right. If she knows you, likes you, been with you before, it's late, her room situation is not perfect, wants a nice bed, wants breakfast, wants to work you for a regular, etc.

MANY chicas will do that for $100.. Knowing the sure money is in their purses vs the alternative of working the DR/KL. Especially when they know they will have a GOOD time, sleep in a warm bed, have a HOT shower in the morning, maybe breakfast AND be treated like a lady..(don't under estimate that)


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El Silencioso,

Now you are talking about a different situation, I agree that if you already have a relationship with the chica and you have a good time going to dinner, for drinks, dancing ect... that you can get a better price. In addition when business is slow they will, as you indicated, take less $$$ for a sure thing.I have several of those relationships.

What i am refering to is more or less a standard price for the first time you meet or sessioned with a chica. Also when business is brisk, for example holiday weekends, then the girls are looking for 2-3 sessions per night and maxing their earning power while they can.


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What i am refering to is more or less a standard price for the first time you meet or sessioned with a chica. Also when business is brisk, for example holiday weekends, then the girls are looking for 2-3 sessions per night and maxing their earning power while they can.


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I will not disagree with your above point, but as has been mentioned on this subject before, in that scenario, if I liked the girl and really wanted to session with her, I would either try to negotiate a longer session (2 hours or more) or try to get them off of Cien. If neither were successful I would just move on.

I will never fault a chica for maximizing their earnings potential, but I would rather pass than feel rushed or feel like this will be a hard core girl, clock watcher, etc.

As far as holiday weekends, I tend to stay away from the sausage fests.. :wink: With exceptions of course... my big birthday bash being one of them. :wink:


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Loco Mike wrote:
The better looking women are not going to TLN with you for $100 when they can get $80-$100 for one hour. .


Generally speaking yes. I think it's obvious to say that if a chica is into you, she's not going anywhere. I think chicas can recognize when it's time to work; and time to play.

I feel a chica would prefer a great party and TLN with a guy she's really into and sacrifice a few hundred dollars for all the times she had to "work". No doubt some are all about quantity since it equals more $$ but, each of them would rather have the former IMO..

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The better looking women are not going to TLN with you for $100 when they can get $80-$100 for one hour. .


I feel a chica would prefer a great party and TLN with a guy she's really into and sacrifice a few hundred dollars for all the times she had to "work". No doubt some are all about quantity since it equals more $$ but, each of them would rather have the former IMO..

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Got to disagree the chicas I know would rather have $200-$300 for a TLN than $100 with a better time. Remember they are working while we are playing. They go to work to make money if they happen to have a good time then that's a bonus.


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Got to disagree the chicas I know would rather have $200-$300 for a TLN than $100 with a better time.

Sounds like you need to look for different chicas. :shock: :P

Remember - YMMV - and not all chicas should be painted with a broad brush. You might be surprised to find out that there are lots of chicas out there, just like 'Cujo describes. And contrary to popular belief - or "word on the street".... it's not ALWAYS about the money! :idea: Flame away ! :?

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Loco Mike wrote:
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Loco Mike wrote:
The better looking women are not going to TLN with you for $100 when they can get $80-$100 for one hour. .


I feel a chica would prefer a great party and TLN with a guy she's really into and sacrifice a few hundred dollars for all the times she had to "work". No doubt some are all about quantity since it equals more $$ but, each of them would rather have the former IMO..

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Got to disagree the chicas I know would rather have $200-$300 for a TLN than $100 with a better time. Remember they are working while we are playing. They go to work to make money if they happen to have a good time then that's a bonus.


The assumption Loco Mike makes is that these girls can just choose whether or not they get $100 an hour on a given night. The fact is that there are plenty of hot looking girls who go without a client all night plenty of times. Their choice is not between doing 3 guys for $300 and one guy for $100. Often enough the choice is between $100 TLN and ZLN (Zero la noche). Pride (or hope) may keep them insisting on $100 per hour but if they think they might have a good time they will be more willing to forget pride and just take the money.

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Your mileage will vary. I've seen 'Cujo's "mileage" and believe me, some girls would rather spend the night with 'Cuj for nothing rather than make money with some other monger. I have watched him turn down the offers.

Part of the sorting process is determining if she is a fairly stable girl who likes to party or is she a demonic she-devil bent on correcting whatever wrong she feels men have done to her. There are girls with similar charms in both camps. This is where a lot of mongers go wrong: They are so intent on seeing how cheaply they can get the girl that they fail to realize that they really don't want her at any price (with that attitude).

Mucho Gusto got it right, IMHO. We need to look at more than her looks and think about more than how little we will pay. Buena suerte! :wink:

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Bilko said, "The assumption Loco Mike makes is that these girls can just choose whether or not they get $100 an hour on a given night. The fact is that there are plenty of hot looking girls who go without a client all night plenty of times. Their choice is not between doing 3 guys for $300 and one guy for $100. Often enough the choice is between $100 TLN and ZLN (Zero la noche). Pride (or hope) may keep them insisting on $100 per hour but if they think they might have a good time they will be more willing to forget pride and just take the money."

BINGO. My thoughts exactly. Plus the girl will likely sleep in a places nicer than their own and get a couple of good meals in the process.

LT sessions seem to be more rare in SJO because they are overpriced by Latin America standards, the Ticas many times have local husbands or boyfriens, and the Colombian girls are connected and controlled by organized crime or a padrote.


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Man, I know a lot of Colombianas and haven't met one who will admit to being controlled by anything but her own ambition. Yes, there are many things with them that are "not possible" until she wants to do them.... :wink:

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Your mileage will vary. I've seen 'Cujo's "mileage" and believe me, some girls would rather spend the night with 'Cuj for nothing rather than make money with some other monger. I have watched him turn down the offers.

Part of the sorting process is determining if she is a fairly stable girl who likes to party or is she a demonic she-devil bent on correcting whatever wrong she feels men have done to her. There are girls with similar charms in both camps. This is where a lot of mongers go wrong: They are so intent on seeing how cheaply they can get the girl that they fail to realize that they really don't want her at any price (with that attitude).
Mucho Gusto got it right, IMHO. We need to look at more than her looks and think about more than how little we will pay. Buena suerte! :wink:


So true. Guys should always focus on the experience first then price. It's out there to be had fellas. I don't discuss prices on the board really because to me it's not the point.
I don't want to come off as "the man" because it's hardly like that. At the same time I have no complaints regarding chicas, prices, experiences, time etc..

Since there is a million or more reasons to learn spanish, this above all is #1 to me. Being able to converse with them allows me to be me. I don't change in any capacity when I go to CR.

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Remember they are working while we are playing. They go to work to make money if they happen to have a good time then that's a bonus.


WHY? Why do I have to remember that? You see Loco I try and not come off as a monger to them. Because really p4p is still rather new to me and I still haven't wrapped my head around paying a chica for sex.

Just remember, girls don't always have to be "working" do they? If a girl wants to work, I tell her to go work. Regardless, there's going to be a party in this room. :wink:

P.s. Bilko- ZLN (zero la noche) has to be one of the funniest acronyms I've come across in a while. :lol:

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Why?
would you do one job for 100 Hr
Or do two jobs for 50 hr
What are the girls going to say?
Two for one sale please more gringos come
Then we can ask cien again
The asking for more time etc ! is the way to go to streach the buck
She will go with the sure thing everytime(well most of the time)


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