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I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but I'd like to relate some details from a dinner date with a gringa friend here last week.

Over drinks, the conversation turned to massage services, such as preferences on types of massage, and for male or female masseuses. Well, one thing led to another, and I eventually let the cat of the bag concerning the types of massages I'd had on my recent trip to Costa Rica. She didn't have a good reaction to this, saying she was saddened for the girls who are forced by their economic situations to engage in sex for pay. She went on to say that if these girls lived in a society where they had better opportunities, then this type of thing wouldn't exist.

I say balderdash! Prostitution has existed throughout history for one basic reason - there is a demand for it. Many women don't seem to understand that men are simply wired differently. Because of our different ancestral roles, we require sex more often and prefer to have it with a greater variety of partners. Of course, this doesn't rule out the possibility of finding satisfaction in a loving monogamous relationship, but nevertheless, the temptation will always be there.

Moreover, no one is forcing these girls to do anything against their will. In many situations they can actually be selective about who they choose to service as well. Anyway, better a society that takes a realistic approach to a basic human need and doesn't stigmatize it, than the sexually repressed puritanical world we have to deal with here.

Don't know if I'll be having dinner again with my friend anytime soon, but no matter - my next trip to CR isn't far in the future.

GetRhythm:
I'm a firm believer in the concept that it's a big world out there and were not all the same. What works for one will not work for the next. With that disclaimer in place will come the following comments. We have all kinds of rules about our behavior in Costa Rica that are discussed on this board. But we do not have any for our behavior back home. So I will submit some new rules for behavior in the real world.

No. 1: Never tell a female what you do in Costa Rica.

No. 2: Never tell a male who may tell a female.

No. 3: If rule No. 1 or No. 2 or broken deny it and stick to that story.
Lee

Hola Lee,
Good to see you posting, and a you make a great point. In fact I was going to post something similar in this thread- http://216.157.152.197/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4219

To each his own but, I agree - we should control the temptation to talk or brag about what goes on, nothing good will come if it.
A few like minded guys back home may get a kick out of it and be envious but why take a chance on being judged, looked down upon and talked about as word (rumors) get around what you do on your vacation?

Looks like your gringa friend has a very myopic view of sex and the world. I did too until traveling south of the border. Now I see the light.

First several trips tried to preach to non-believers; show pictures, tell stories ect. and was ridiculed for being a BASM (born-again sex machine). Now, I tell no one, show no one and if asked why I'm out of the country so often, tell them I'm checking on investment property That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Papa Nut

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I only tell people that travel themselves and it's a show me your pictures and I'll show you mine.

Hell I even took a office buddy with me last trip and didn't tell him shit. He did the rainforest tour and we went to dinner but I didn't show him Delray or any MP's.

Besides why invite more gringos we are overrunning the place already.

I can't blame your gringa for hating the hobby no monopolist ever wants to lose their lock on the market.

When asked why I go to Costa Rica so often I say that I'm going to visit old military friends who have retired in Costa Rica. That is my cover story and it seems to go over very easily. Like others after my first visit or two I hinted at what I was doing and found a very negative response from just about everyone. In particular women who considered me a potential partner (for whatever). I got negative responses from male friends. I'm sure the negativity came from the fact that they were married and could not go with me.

As for the concept of taking advantage of these girls economic situation. Prostitution exists in every economy on the planet. It's only a matter of opening price point. In the economy that I live in the opening price point (not to mention the quality of product) puts too much pressure on my income level. By removing myself from this economy and into theirs my income level is very comfortable with their opening price point.
Economics has always been one of my favorite subjects.
Lee

Pacoloco:
By the way- while I am thinking about it. Those elevator rides are not free. Most of them cost me at least 30,000 colon. But most of them were well worth it.

It may be awhile before I get back in that elevator. Me and my Firebird had a little incident and my hips are not in real good shape. Sitting down is uncomfortable, laying down is painful and I cannot stand up all day. But like all things in life this situation is temporary. Hope to have all my pieces back together for Super Bowl weekend.
Lee

Hope you recover quickly amigo, you "old" guys should be more careful bombing around in those sports cars.

By the way, doesn't that BBBJ you got for a tank of gas last week blow your "opening price point economic theory" to hell?

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Pacoloco:
Every market has its fluctuations in price. It's just a matter of positioning yourself favorabley to take advantage of temporary price reductions. Are to put it into Lehman's terms we all get lucky ones in a while.
Lee

Most American Males have NO idea what goes on in Costa Rica. They have a pre-concieved notion that prostitutes the world over are drug crazed crack ho's....old and skanky. We know better, but it is a hard stereotype to break, and I say "why try?" Most guys, if they knew what we knew, would flock to Costa Rica for any excuse at all. Why let them in on our little secret.

We have all admitted the catch 22 to our CR visits. Once you are bitten on the neck by a hot latina, you can never go back to a normal life. Why ruin it for them? If they are happy...leave them there.

As for the gringas....NEVER tell them. They will always be resentful. They think they have a monopoly. Why spoil it for them. If they KNEW what was available down there, they would be fearful of never getting a man again. Leave them to their fantasies.

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My reply line usually goes like " I use to donate to the Int'l Red Cross , now I donate directly to those in need to make sure my $$ is being used properly " And I truly get a better " feeling " doing it this way.

Bingster

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Yippieeeee !!

Yeah, it's tempting. It's tempting to tell every gringa how you are no longer held hostage by her sexual power or timetable. But it is probably not a good idea, because you still may end up phucking her down the road. I've got one of them like that now. She knows I perform (music) in the States and out of the country (as well I do), but truth be known, I prefer not to work when I'm on vacation. Of course she's Latin, and in South Florida they all know the scene south of Key West. She's asked if I have a girlfriend in SJ or Rio and I say no, "they speak a different language." I can tell she's not convinced with that lame explanation and that's fine, but I'll never 'fess up because I like her.

We haven't yet done the wild thing and though I think it will happen, it will only be if I don't rub her face in it. As far as gringa friends and colleagues, I wouldn't consider it. Pretty much the same with guys, except there's one single guy I work with who has a girlfriend 30 years his junior, but I get the feeling he's not crazy about her. He's prime material for a trip south. I mentioned my last trip to Rio over lunch last week and while I didn't get specific, he could see there's adventure there. As we were walking to our cars he said he wanted to talk more about it - but I don't believe he's ever mongered.

Regarding women being beaten down in countries not furnishing opportunity, I agree it's a bogus argument. There are so many women in this country who have brains and opportunity, but choose p4p anyway.

There's probably some residual anger in every guy from past experiences of games and deprivation, but using that as an excuse to tell women of our solution to the problem won't do any good and can only make things worse. You're not going to convince gringas that gringas are phucked up by telling them you sport wood in foreign lands at every possible opportunity. They'll just think you're a lost cause.

Surprised to see this on a US news/opinion site this morning-

THE WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE LEWINSKY

Colorado Rockies pitcher Denny Neagle paid a working girl forty bucks for sex. He got busted. A year ago Neagle pled guilty to drunk driving. An accident was involved. Now he's been fired by the Rockies. He loses the remaining $19 million on his contract. Question: Which is the more serious offense, paying a prostitute or driving drunk. If you answer "paying a prostitute" then you're hopeless. Nobody's right to life, liberty or property is threatened when someone hires a prostitute. Prostitution has always been with us, and prostitution will always be with us. It has been and will be a fact of life so long as humans roam the Earth. Time to legalize. (boortz.com)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

Great to see my favorite Talkshow host (although infuriorating at times) referenced here! Bet he'd be proud, too.

Four year's ago, I shared the prevailing opinion of nearly every US girl and most men (crack ho's worldwide). It took several trips to europe and one to Argentina to realize how f'd up that viewpoint is.

I especially agree with those who recommend not sharing with ANYONE uneless you meet them here or in the BM. Like jailhouse fodder, it will come back to haunt you. I read tourist books on Costa Rica and share those virtual experiences with friends -- even close ones!

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SlickWings


Seems like I spend half my life drinking, gambling, and mongering. The other half... I waste.

Not entirely off subject.

Over on another board ( related to the same subject as this one) I read a piece about one of our fellow travelers whose wife hired a private investigator who followed him to South America and stayed in the same hotel. Not that any of you would have a wife you'd be cheating on but for one who may - beware of who may be at that five o'clock happy hour.
Lee