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Pacifica55:

I've seen your good and negative thoughts about what is going on in CR yet you ridicule a simple post about my views on a very serious congressional bill regarding the U.S. . If you noticed, my objections were not pointed toward any political party. It's inclusive and yes, it is directed toward the current commander in chief. Who , by the way, is now responsible. Bush is history.

You appear to hide your head in the sand and not question a congressional bill that will change this country. If you care to retort, then please do it in an intelligent manner.

It is the responsibility of citizens to question the legislation set forth by this nation. Do you disagree? If so, then you have fallen into the segment of our population that accepts anything this government enacts.

That is irresponsible in my opinion. And yes, it's a matter of free speech. You apparently have disregard for that.

I respect your opinions and enjoy your posts but I do not care for your disparaging me. I offer you no malice.

Mule

Well, I tell ya, I used to think you guys who started businesses in Costa Rica were crazy for taking so much risk. Now I realize you guys were the smart ones. Even Bill Clinton keeps most of his moola in a bank account in the Canary Islands. Bill is many things, but stupid is not one of them.

-PA

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Come on, Muledick. I may be senile but I am not stoopid. Your spin is transparent but I will give a small shot at the "waste" you complained about earlier.

1. $600 million for government fleet vehicles. The Government renews its fleet regularly. This spending will go toward more "green" vehicles and will help stimulate the automobile industry, possibly saving many from your list of "people who refuse to work".

2. $650 million for digital TV converter box coupons. There are a lot of people in this country who don't have access to cable TV, haven't bought a new TV since the Reagan administration and could not afford to watch TV without the coupons. My parents are some of them.

3. $ 21 million to re-sod the Washington monument National Mall. Ever been to the Washington Monument National Mall? Should we leave it a brown mess? I question the amount.

4. Millions spent for safe sex programs in schools. About time. Eight years of "don't phuck" as safe sex ed is more than enough.

5. $41 billion: Grants to local school districts. Yeah, we sure don't want to spend any money trying to educate our youth. Hey, if they can't find work they can just join the ranks of the "people who refuse to work".

6. $79 billion: State fiscal relief to prevent cuts in state aid. If you haven't noticed, the fed cut back on many of the things they previously assisted with at the state level. I guess the states could just join the "refuse to work" group, too.

7. $21 billion: School modernization ($15.6 billion to increase the Pell grant by $500; $6 billion for higher education modernization) Sorry, that's for the teacher's union...not to stimulate the economy. Pell grants were one way that people with the talent but without the money could get an education. Of course, Bush chopped the crap out of it, leaving the program virtually unfunded and many potential tax payers got the shaft. Now I bet they are "refusing to work" as well.

8. $20 billion: Modernization of health-information technology systems. Much needed and I bet the equipment will be labeled "Made in USA", providing jobs for the increasingly small number of folks who will work.

9. $4.1 billion: Preventative care. Oh, geez, we can't have that! Much better to spend a ton of money (to insurance companies) to fight diseases that could have been prevented. And, of course, those slackers with cancer "refuse to work".

10. $20 billion to increase the food stamp benefit by over 13% in order to help defray rising food costs. Yeah, let the slackers starve!

11. 4.1 billion for Acorn....I hope you know just what these folks do. Yes, I do know just what these guys do. They assist people in registering to vote so that they can have a voice in the process. Yes, they screwed up by telling their canvassers that they would be paid by the signature. Not a good plan when people are desperate because they can't find any other work and they are about to lose what little they have. I have never seen one report of someone voting who should not have been allowed to vote due to Acorn. Just a bunch of noise from the folks who don't want everyone to have a voice. I find the figure 4.1 billion to be highly suspect.

Bottom line: These programs will pay longterm benefits beyond their initial costs. Anything in the package that does not will likely be removed.

PS: All I see from your post is a bunch of negativity. Just what do you propose we do, "stay the course...thousand points of light". Dewd, on that course we hit the iceberg! I just hope we are not rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship.

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Dam Pac 55 tell me how you really feel

I was about to hit MD with all of that and then some. I am so tired of Reaganomics that I am going nuts. And I loved Ronnie

It is a shame that the Republicans that have been drawing a tax payer check for years have no new ideas in the worse crisis we have had in decades. Just tax cuts. Man they all sing from the same hymn book

Lets try something else like get folks a good job and see if they want to work (1000 people stood in line in Miami for 35 firemen jobs) for example

I will stop there But Pac next one on me for that post amigo

NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

I think MuleDick is the screen name of Rush Limbaugh on CRT.

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NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

If poltics, illegal drugs and spam are against forum rules then why aren't these threads simply locked as they pop up instead of being allowed to go on resulting in arguments and stupid insulting remarks?

*cough* Only 1 Admin *cough*

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Pacifica55 and others:

You have made my point. And several others has chosen to bash me. That's okay. When inflation gets out of hand and the dollar is severely diminished, perhaps many of you will see the damage the politicians are bestowing on this country.

Apparently you have no problem with congressmen having not read the bill before voting nor do you care about a spending bill full of entitlement spending and earmarks for God knows how many friends and backers. And this is only the beginning of printing new money.

I sat my two daughters down yesterday and apologized for the debt they will incur in the future. Then later, I had a couple of shots of JDaniels to reflect on the inflationary and loss of dollar value I will have to soon contend with and yet provide for my family.

I've been through recessions before, especially the bad one in the late seventies when inflation and unemployment were double digits and interest rates were in the high teens. I lost my business and went bankrupt but worked hard and recovered after four years. The country waded out of it just as it always had. I make no secret that I am a free economy capitalist who firmly believes that government causes most of the downturns in our economy.

What happens here has many legs to all over the world including that OZ you enjoy in CR. I don't know about all of you but my funds depend upon what happens in this country and my love for travel will definitely take a back seat with the ailing economy. Family first and then personal survival.

It's not political to seek the best course for one's country. It's negligent to not be involved in a remedy.

Mule

That is cool but were you as angry at George Bush when he got us in the hole you daughters have to pay back

Remember Clinton left him a surplus

And he spent more money than any one in history

NYG

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NYG:

It is you fellows that are being political and pointing fingers at one party.

What you fail to realize is that I do not trust any of the political whores in congress. I certainly have my problems with G. Bush as well as Presidents before and the one now in office.

Liberals tend to not question what their congressmen do or their legislation intent. They walk in lock step. The only exception is when they think their political support is falling in their districts. Same with the conservatives except they are more likely to question their own party. Ala Maverick John McCain.

I have not seen any mavericks in the liberal wing.

As a businessman and capitalist, I do not trust the stupidity in congress. Neither party.

I am surprised at intelligent men as you fellows appear to be, that you do not study the small print and possible ramifications of legislation being passed by these congressmen. They are not thinking of the country....they are protecting their own selves and political power.

Please read more of the bill and you might find a few surprises in there. Then again, you may not really care.

Mule

Wow ! Quite obvious who rode the government “dole”.

While I love the USA and the opportunity it gave me, I hate to see it go down in a socialist flame.

From the age of seven, I was working. Raking yards, washing cars, cleaning kitchens and bathrooms between tenants for apartment managers. I did not get “institutionalized” or crippled by handouts.

My single mom of four K*ds always made just a little too much to qualify for “wel-fare”. I learned to buy my own clothes as well as pitch in with the family’s needs. And thank God.

Acorn 4.1 Billion. What a joke. Chavez already did this.

It was government backed loans , Freddie Mac and Fannie Mea that caused banks to give all the non qualifying loans to begin with, before Bush W.
In the 1980’s you had to qualify for a home loan AND put 10% down.

Socialism does not work. If you want to turn our government into Socialist one, why don’t you skip the process and simply move to one of the many existing socialist countries.

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* These are the "Good Ole Days". Enjoy Them.

* RENT but, "Don't Buy a Home in Costa Rica" until you have lived here for THREE years.

Anyone who has read this thread can understand why political discussions are against the rules. This debate can go on and on, perhaps even surpassing the number of posts in some of the smack talk forum, and never change the mind of anyone.

Have to agree with Paco Admin should lock this kind of thread before it gets legs.

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essential food groups:
alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat.
Alex Levine

Dios Mio!!! Es un milagro!! Seriously, ID, I did a double take when I saw this. This thread was worthwhile if for no other reason than this.

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