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Current scuttlebutt is that the brothel industry in Nevada is on its' last legs. It is interesting to note that as the economy is getting worse, more and more ads are appearing on websites like Craigslist offering "anything" for financial help.


The Nevada brothel is on its last legs because it priced itself out of the "give a hoot" ability of the target consumer. Just like the $12 movie ticket, the $15-20k "economy car", the $30-40 baseball game ticket, the $50-70 Disneyworld ticket, and the $4 comic book, the $200-300 session at a Nevada brothel (on top of airfare, hotels, and other costs), the price is so high that it isn't worth the trouble.

Guys don't mind paying 2, possibly 3 times their hourly wages for a PSE or a GFE experience, but they wont pay 10 times their hourly wages. Especially when some of the SW's in those Nevada establishments look like the single mom working the french fry machine at the McDonalds and know all about upselling but nothing about creating the illusion of a memorable experience.


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Here in Canada, the act itself isn't illegal, but communicating for the purpose of prostitution is, or living off the avails of prosititution (pimping) or keeping a common bawdy house (incalls).

Unfortunately, I think there's always going to be some holier-than-thou group of dickheads who will look down on both prostitutes & johns and as long as the politicians need that group's votes, they won't legalize prostitution.

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Legalizing prostitution in the US would decrease violent sex crimes, remove the practice of pimping, increase tourism, and create jobs- but we don't want those things right?

Regarding the scene in Nevada- I was watching HBO's "Cathouse" for a few minutes last night and couldn't believe the ridiculous rates that place is charging. $1000-$1500 FS for trailer-trash looking kinda ladies. No thanks!


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Legalizing prostitution in the US would decrease violent sex crimes, remove the practice of pimping, increase tourism, and create jobs- but we don't want those things right?


Doubtful at best.

1."decrease violent sex crimes" Most sex crimes are acts of violence not sex acts are not carried out because of sexual frustration.

2. "remove the practice of pimping" Might lessen it but in countries that prostitution is legal pimps still exist.

3. "increase tourism" Perhaps but most other countries already have some sort of legal sex industry so it is not necessary to travel to the U.S.

4. "create jobs" Marginally if bordellos open and hire support staff.

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1-There have been several studies that indicate lower rates of rape (considered a violent sex crime) in areas where forms of legal prostituion are available (particularly in Holland). Its difficult to prove however- partly due to many rapes going unreported.

2-I will agree with you that pimping does still exist, but at lower levels when prostitution is legal.

3- It is necessary if a foreigner wants to have sex with an American woman (most likely).

4- In today's US economy you have to think "outside of the box"..or in this case- "inside of the box" :)


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1-There have been several studies that indicate lower rates of rape (considered a violent sex crime) in areas where forms of legal prostituion are available (particularly in Holland). Its difficult to prove however- partly due to many rapes going unreported.

2-I will agree with you that pimping does still exist, but at lower levels when prostitution is legal.

3- It is necessary if a foreigner wants to have sex with an American woman (most likely).

4- In today's US economy you have to think "outside of the box"..or in this case- "inside of the box" :)


AJ and ID both (good points) but what about the increased drug use and the more human trafficking that surely would occur?

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NYG wrote:
Ashford Jackson wrote:
1-There have been several studies that indicate lower rates of rape (considered a violent sex crime) in areas where forms of legal prostituion are available (particularly in Holland). Its difficult to prove however- partly due to many rapes going unreported.

2-I will agree with you that pimping does still exist, but at lower levels when prostitution is legal.

3- It is necessary if a foreigner wants to have sex with an American woman (most likely).

4- In today's US economy you have to think "outside of the box"..or in this case- "inside of the box" :)


AJ and ID both (good points) but what about the increased drug use and the more human trafficking that surely would occur?

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NYG,

One of the advantages to the government of legalizing prostitution is that it can be regulated. Thus, sex workers would need to be documented if they were to work in a regulated establishment. So I don't see that legalizing prostitution would increase human trafficking. Drug use is another issue, but again, if they were regulated, drug use could be prohibited. I just don't see the relationship between legalizing prostition and increased drug use.
Finally, legalizing prostitition could increase government coffers by taxing pu*sy. I would be happy, in that case, to do my patriotic duty. :wink:


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AJ and ID both (good points) but what about the increased drug use and the more human trafficking that surely would occur?

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Hard to imagine that drug use among prostitutes would get any worse although that is possible. The obvious answer, albeit the not necessarily correct one, would be to legalize the sale of drugs and control the sale at the same time you legalize prostitution which would also be licensed and controlled. Human trafficking is already taking place and I do not believe it would get anymore prevalent, in fact may decrease, under a controlled and licensed environment.

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Some good ideas... I agree the Nevada sex industry is way overpriced for the quality you get. I went once while on business, expected to have some high-quality women for 200... Turned out it was in trailors, far to get to, the girl was "average" at best... I spent the 200, simply cause I spent a couple hours to get there.

Legalization on a broad scale would likely put capitalism into practice and have a global impact. It would be interesting to see.


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Gringo Malo wrote:
Current scuttlebutt is that the brothel industry in Nevada is on its' last legs. Also, prostitution is legal in almost every county in Nevada, except Clark County( Las Vegas ), Storey?(Reno) and several others.. It is interesting to note that as the economy is getting worse, more and more ads are appearing on websites like Craigslist offering "anything" for financial help.


Not on its last legs at all.Simply changing. I can very confidently report that in less than 3 years there will be multiple brothels in good old Las Vegas.Probably less than a 10 min. ride from your strip hotel. The state and city are both screaming for cash.The school districts will get a big cut of the licensing revenue.Everybody happy except for the few fundamentalist wackjobs. And they and thier followers are leaving Nevada anyway.


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Gringo Malo wrote:
Current scuttlebutt is that the brothel industry in Nevada is on its' last legs. Also, prostitution is legal in almost every county in Nevada, except Clark County( Las Vegas ), Storey?(Reno) and several others.. It is interesting to note that as the economy is getting worse, more and more ads are appearing on websites like Craigslist offering "anything" for financial help.


Not on its last legs at all.Simply changing. I can very confidently report that in less than 3 years there will be multiple brothels in good old Las Vegas.Probably less than a 10 min. ride from your strip hotel. The state and city are both screaming for cash.The school districts will get a big cut of the licensing revenue.Everybody happy except for the few fundamentalist wackjobs. And they and thier followers are leaving Nevada anyway.



But those brothels are expensive and the women are not worth the price. IMHO 8)

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Count me in as a recruiter. I am aware that travel to foreign countries is part of the requirement. :lol:

Good plan. And I agree those chicks on HBO's Cat House are mostly disgusting(Some look like crack whores and most are trailer trash). By the way, nothing against trailer trash I just don't want to bang them. The DR on its worst day blows away the Bunny Ranch. Don't even get me started on the prices :roll:

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did you know that 35% of the population in usa are evangelist christians. i think the laws will get tighter here before they ever become more lax. and i always believed marijuana would be legal by now, but i don't think that will ever happen either.. and i am not a pot smoking hippy, im in my 50s and fat and about as middle class as you can get.. :oops:

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There is a legal way under current Federal and State laws to propagate houses of prostitution in the US. Yes, I know there are alot of reasons that this will not happen that have already been mentioned (religious right, misguided feminists, etc.). However, people might have thought the same about casino gambling not too long ago and that has spread from Nevada to Atlantic City and now just about everywhere.

How did it spread so far and fast? I think alot of it had to do with American Indian casinos. As I understant it, because gaming was legal somewhere in the US, American Indian's could not be prohibited from creating their own casinos. Similarly, since prostitution is legal somewhere in the States, American Indians should be allowed to run bordellos. Once they startup and are successful, the states would be pressured into letting non American Indian brothels compete.


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the reason the indians could do it, the casinos, is that the indian are a nation inside a nation so our laws are not enforceable on indian land, so they could start casinos.. so if they started bordellos than i think we the usa could not enforce them.. it is a weird situation.

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