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Who wants to go for a quick swim before dinner? :lol: :shock: :P

Just one more reason to love the place!!!!


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Does this mean you have to do a change up on baits for sail and marlin ??????

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Does this mean you have to do a change up on baits for sail and marlin ??????

LOL ! :lol: You don't have to change your offshore techniques, but I'd think twice about eating that fresh Whole Red Snapper dinner at one of the many local restaurants in Jaco! :shock:

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:D :D jeez, i thought that they were just providing free Baby Ruth candy bars for the tourists :D :oops: :oops:


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Chicago had about 30 beach closings this summer due to high fecal counts.. At least they tell you and close the beach. My guess is that the fecal count near any beach town in CR, not just Jaco which has always been known as a pit, is dangerous.

Just walk the beaches and you'll see little streams emptying into the ocean every 1/2 mile or so--that's the local sewage treatment CR style. Not to mention the major rivers that also flow into the ocean.

I remember watching a couple of tico toddlers playing in that one stream on the north end of the playa in Manuel Antonio where alot of the surfers hang out, near the nude swimmers/topless sunbathers area, and I thought I wish I could speak Spanish and tell their mom and dad.


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Chicago had about 30 beach closings this summer due to high fecal counts.. At least they tell you and close the beach. My guess is that the fecal count near any beach town in CR, not just Jaco which has always been known as a pit, is dangerous.

Just walk the beaches and you'll see little streams emptying into the ocean every 1/2 mile or so--that's the local sewage treatment CR style. Not to mention the major rivers that also flow into the ocean.

I remember watching a couple of tico toddlers playing in that one stream on the north end of the playa in Manuel Antonio where alot of the surfers hang out, near the nude swimmers/topless sunbathers area, and I thought I wish I could speak Spanish and tell their mom and dad.


Iwas planning to do some surfing in jaco this coming july. Didn't have the chance because I was only there for two days and it was my first time out in CR(jaco) after reading your article, I totally got turned off. I already placed a deposit for vista guapa where they provide shelter and surf tours in tamarindo. Is the whole pacific coast polluted with fecal matter. Any other beaches you can recommened that doesn't give you hep A as a present. If not. Ill just have to stay in copacabana and surf the pool/bar for chicas.
Or have they been cleaning/regulating the beaches since the last time you were there. Your response will be greatly appreciated.


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Bad as these CR waters are, any of you BKK fans take a swim in the klongs? Thought not.

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Here is the AyA website http://www.aya.go.cr/ they test the waters but couldn't find any current info on la playas. (muy tico) Anyone know of a site with current beach info- blue flag ratings and water quality? Maybe there are no blue flags left in CR, of course advertising that isn't really good for tourism or the surfing biz so maybe that's why it's not public info...

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Has anyone here ever read or seen the play "Enemy of the People" by Henrik Ibsen? I recommend it.


Excellent, Prolijo. It's right up there with Voltaire's Candide, ou l'Optimisme or Molière's The Misanthrope; both of which speak to the matter not just for Costa Rica but, in particular, the USA....

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Iwas planning to do some surfing in jaco this coming july. Didn't have the chance because I was only there for two days and it was my first time out in CR(jaco) after reading your article, I totally got turned off. I already placed a deposit for vista guapa where they provide shelter and surf tours in tamarindo. Is the whole pacific coast polluted with fecal matter. Any other beaches you can recommened that doesn't give you hep A as a present. If not. Ill just have to stay in copacabana and surf the pool/bar for chicas.
Or have they been cleaning/regulating the beaches since the last time you were there. Your response will be greatly appreciated.
I'm certainly no expert on these matters, but can tell you what I've heard and what I've surmised from it. I can't speak for the whole Pacific coast, but if I were trying to pick a cleaner alternative surfing location from Jaco, Tamarindo would not be it. There have been just as many reports about fecal problems existing there. OTOH, I will tell you what the local tourism industry has been saying and it does have at least some ring of credibility in it:

1) Those high pollution test results came during the rainy season when run-off greatly exacerbates any problem. SUPPOSEDLY subsequent tests taken during the dry season were much improved. Does that mean that other steps they have taken have reduced the problem or does that mean things will get worse again this summer. Unfortunately, you're talking about going in July, so this aspect does not really help you.

2) Those high pollution counts were taken from tests conducted in areas closest to those towns sewage/run-off streams. Presumably, the further away from those you get the more diffuse becomes the problem. How far you have to go and at what point those counts become acceptably safe enough is another question. This suggests to me that, no, the whole pacific coast isn't polluted with fecal matter or at least not in all areas enough to constitute a major health problem. Clearly, lots of people go surfing in CR without becoming dangerously ill. Personally, I wouldn't surf or swim at any of the beaches IN each of these towns but I think if you travel a little further outside each town to surf you should be safe enough. I don't know about Tamarindo, but I do know that the best local surfing in Jaco is at the beaches several kms away anyway.

3) After the huge wave of bad PR in Tamarindo, several hotels were shut down for inproper disposal of wastes and supposedly made to clean up their acts before they were allowed to reopen. Whether they really did do anything to fi their problems or whether someone wound up paying local officials to look the other way, I don't really know. Nor do I know if they really went after the largest and worst perpetrators (such as the Diria Resort) and probably the local municipality itself or whether they just made a token effort by going after a few of the smaller and less powerful private businesses in town. And now that it has been several months and the newspaper publicity has faded, I don't know if things have gone back to business as usual. But I do know that the local tourism officials and chambers of commerce at least claim to have taken steps to improve the situation since those disturbing reports first came out and that because of that things MIGHT not be QUITE as bad as they were at their peak.

4) I'm not sure what you can do to avoid the risk of acquiring intestinal parasites since swallowing a certain amount of seawater is really unavoidable when you surf and get knocked off your board. However, if you're really that worried about acquiring Hep A, the surest thing would simply be to get vaccinated. As a mongerer, it is prety advisable anyway (Hep B is actually more of a risk for us). I recommend you go for the Twin-rix which covers you for both Hep A & B. It takes 3 shots (the 1st now, the 2nd a month after that and the 3rd in 6 months). If you get it starting now, it should be fully effective by the time you go in July. Your county clinic will probably be much cheaper than your personal doctor. Mine charges $52/shot for the Twin-rix ($156 total). The 3 shot Hep B alone costs $35/shot ($105 total) and the 2 shot Hep A alone costs $29/shot ($58 total), so you see where you save a little money AND having to be stuck less often if you go for the combined Twin-rix. I believe these vaccines are supposed to be effective up to 10 years or longer. While you're at it you might also want to make sure your Tetanus and TDap vaccinations are up to date.

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BTW, for those of you who aren't familiar with "Enemy of the People", it is a play about a Norwegian doctor who discovered that waste products from his town's tannery were contaminating the town's newly created mineral baths, which were a major draw for tourists and income to the town. He found that the contamination was causing serious illness among the tourists. But when he went to the town's authorities to inform them about the problem and his proposed solution (which would come at a considerable cost to the town) he was suprised to find it difficult to get through to the anyone. They seemed unable to appreciate the seriousness of the issue and unwilling to publicly acknowledge and address the problem because it could mean financial ruin for the town. As a result, he was ostracized by everyone as as an "Enemy of the People".


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... However, if you're really that worried about acquiring Hep A, the surest thing would simply be to get vaccinated. As a mongerer, it is prety advisable anyway (Hep B is actually more of a risk for us). I recommend you go for the Twin-rix which covers you for both Hep A & B. It takes 3 shots (the 1st now, the 2nd a month after that and the 3rd in 6 months). If you get it starting now, it should be fully effective by the time you go in July. Your county clinic will probably be much cheaper than your personal doctor. Mine charges $52/shot for the Twin-rix ($156 total). The 3 shot Hep B alone costs $35/shot ($105 total) and the 2 shot Hep A alone costs $29/shot ($58 total), so you see where you save a little money AND having to be stuck less often if you go for the combined Twin-rix. I believe these vaccines are supposed to be effective up to 10 years or longer. While you're at it you might also want to make sure your Tetanus and TDap vaccinations are up to date.

Pistachio,

Prolijo is dead-nuts right on the money with this info! The Twin-Rix is 3 series of shots - 1st shot, then 2nd shot one month later, and final shot 5 months later.

I got my 1st Twin-Rix series of shots in September. I got the 2nd series of shots one month later in October. The 3rd and final series will be in March, and then I'm done. The doctor also recommended that I get the Tetanus and TDAP boosters while I was there, which I did. One other shot that was recommended (because I will be travelling to SEA) was Typhoid, which I also agreed to.

The only thing I can add to Prolijo's info about the Hep A & Hep B (Twin-Rix series): The doctor told me that these were lifetime shots. Unless I worked in a "high-risk" occupation (medical field, dentist, law enforcement, etc). If you work in these fields, they recommend the booster series of shots every 10 years. If not, then the shots were good forever.

Regardless, it's not a bad thing to get all the immunizations, especially if you travel internationally and/or frequently.

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Damn it doesn't come to me as a surprise. Well I did hear rumors but I didn't care. I went in the beach for a swim about once in Aug. Nothing happened thank God. However I can't say the same for my cousin. He actually swallowed some water and got SICK!!! Maybe because of all the bacteria and shit. No more Jaco swimming for me :( and I kinda like it.


Yeah, you guys better wear a condom when swimming in Jaco. :P


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Damn it doesn't come to me as a surprise. Well I did hear rumors but I didn't care. I went in the beach for a swim about once in Aug. Nothing happened thank God. However I can't say the same for my cousin. He actually swallowed some water and got SICK!!! Maybe because of all the bacteria and shit. No more Jaco swimming for me :( and I kinda like it.


Yeah, you guys better wear a condom when swimming in Jaco. :P


I was out in CR for a 3 week haitus. July 21 to aug 12th.

I was out surfing out in hermosa in July. it wasn't as bad as i thought. Surf contest drew in a huge crowd. I was so overwhelmed that i decided jut to surf jaco most of the time during the mornings. I ended up staying with a friend there. could not stand the crowd and traffic in hermosa.

Jaco wasn't to bad either. well in the morning. Afternoon surf had this strange orange foam lingering around the water, about 20 by 40 yrds wide.. Usually southern part of the beach. saw some little ticos swimmming around it and they seemed fine... It usualy happens after a 2-3hr down pour in the afternoon. I actually paddle across it. i did find a condom on the beach, but did not bother wearing it. =P

quepos is definitely like grade d beef. edible but not recommended. nice long right hands though. i usualy wipe my right hand to wipe my butt. came in mind while look out in the shores of quepos during a rainy afternoon. nuff said.

manuel antonio is ok. was raining when i was there. im sure its nice if the sun is out. mostly swam.

domical wow!, spent two days there and planning to head back next july for a week.

the more south you go, the more beautful and better it gets. but i ran out of time.

I had packed immodium and did not use it once. I did get my hep b shots but forgot about the a. did my last cycle before trip. I was pretty much ok the 2 1/2 weeks in the coast. Im also filipino and was born there. I think we have a natural immunity to shit and TB if born there.

and then comes san jose. you guys know the story on that. no need to explain. don't want to think about while being in the states. to late for that cause i've just read some great trip reports. hoping to contribute in the future.

I've already been back first week of oct. and coming back again 3rd weekend of oct for 3 days. I should've never set foot in San Jose. Im hooked like the dolphin fish i had for dinner.


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