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I know we've had a couple of guys have to deal with this, one posted in great detail.

I spoke with a gringo who got a girl knocked up in the states but wouldn't marry her. She went back to brazil on an expiring visa but he had to pay US Ch*ld support rates to her. She could live very well in Brazil on that rate.

We got to speculating... for the US rate, say $1500 a month per Ch*ld you could knock up 3 girls overseas, send them each $500 a month.

Can you be forced to pay the Ch*ld support rates for your home country if the K*ds are in another country? Can you be forced to pay at all if she is overseas? Personally I would want to pay.

I haven't gone through divorce and am single, sorry if these questions are clueless. Just curious.

No I haven't received "The Call" lol.

1) It would only become an issue if the mother to be were from a family of "means." Able to hire lawyers who were expert on extradition treaties. U.S. officials would have to arrest you, escourt you down to CR, etc. Similar to what we are seeing on the 3 former Costa Rican presidents at this moment.
2) The cost. To governments. It could easilly involve $100,000 as a starting point to hire U.S. Marshalls to investigate; go to court; get opinions written per individual case by their lawyers.
3)The families- "Good Families" want such a thing swept under the rug in most instances. Who is anxious (within the upper strata of socio-economic class) to have their young daughter's picture on the front page of "LaNacion" ; subtitled "Youngest daughter of influential businessman seeks extradition for Ch*ld support at U.S. Embassy." Then the story would come out that she was pickin up a few extra bucks; trickin' at the Rey.

IMHO; if it happens to you...Get out of Dodge City for a while. Go to Nicaragua. Go to Equador. Just get out of the local jurisdiction and country...and you are home free. It would be nice and appropriate to wait for the storm to settle; return with an offer to help in exchange for getting to know your Ch*ld. The offer would then be from the goodness of your heart, rather than a mean spirited court order.

why does he "have to" pay Ch*ld support? court? enforcement agency? moral obligation?

here's a quick observation of either obligation:

If your buddy's brazilian baby-mama was smart, she would have assigned supervision of any child-support obligations to the Ch*ld support enforcement agency (or equivilent thereof) in his jurisdiction. the csea would then automatically deduct his payments from his paychecks, and/or through tax refund interception, or--in an extreme case--through property lien. this makes escape from the obligation extremely difficult. anyone who has EVER dealt with such an agency would agree.

If he's paying her directly, pursuant to some court order, and wanted to be a deadbeat dad, he could just stop paying. This would force the baby-mama to seek judicial enforcement of the underlying obligation; something that would be difficult to do depending on her means. The only risk here is that if she ever returned to the jurisdiction, and had the motivation and means (i.e., $$$) to hire an attorney, or the smarts to petition the local csea, she could seek back Ch*ld support and it all starts over again.

As far as judicial assistance in her own country, I seriously doubt that the brazilian justice system is efficient enough for her to use to issue a judgment against your buddy and then enforce it extraterritorially. Even if it did, as far as I can determine, the Hague Convention is not in force between Brazil and the U.S. And INTERPOL is not going to crash through his door and carry him back to Brazil in chains just because he's not supporting his K*ds....

If his obligation is the former, he could seek some kind of amendment or relief from the payments. maybe the local agency doesn't cover foreign baby-mamas...maybe he could just make something up knowing she won't be available to attend the hearing...

If his obligation is moral, then that's up to him...

The USA has reciporcal Ch*ld support agreements with many,
many other countries. I don't know about Brazil or Costa Rica,
but I know you're phucked in Canada and much of Europe. I haven't
experienced this first hand. However, if you have reason to be
concerned, I suggest you do some investigating into these
agreements. I checked into them (briefly) a while back.
The fact that they exist was enough for me to stop giving
out very much personal info.

Ch*ld support in CR applies only of you are the legit father of the Ch*ld, in other words only if you, by your own means, have the guts to recorgize the K*D here in CR or if you were forced by law to take a DNA sample.

Once you are recoginzed as the father, if you and the mother splt, she can file for Ch*ld support. If you are a US citizen, living here the the base will be settle based on your income here.

If you live in states and if she is able to get on hold of you, your base will be settle on your salary/income there. after all the K*D is a US citizen too, regardless if he/she was recognized here or elsewhere.

If you live there, CR mothers can simply do all the notifications through the consulate in your city/state, that's if she has your residency or mailing address, as far as I know you are not arrested or extradited.

Obvously there will be a record of yourself being wanted for Ch*ld support.
I am sure you will be able to get in the country but not sure if you will be eligible to leave that easy. If the records shows at the computers you will be held at inmigration at the airport and escorted by police officers.

I saw a couple of guys go through this, they showed up at the counter and a few minutes after a couple of officers were escorting the guys.

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Moral of the story, don't give out your contact info to chicas. And keep a skin on that thing, of course.

"If you live in states and if she is able to get on hold of you, your base will be settle on your salary/income there. after all the K*D is a US citizen too, regardless if he/she was recognized here or elsewhere."

WOW guys this is amazing amounts of information I've copied it to my hard-drive. Mente even if the K*D is born in Costa Rica it is a US Citizen? I'm amazed that because I've got US sperm it makes the K*D American. Always thought it had to be born on our soil.

Dude that is a wild story about those guys being escorted away from the airport counter !

Goal....

The K*D will be american if recognized by the father or mother...

Obvoiusly if the Ch*ld is born here, will be registed here as costarican... he/she will eventually have dual citizenship.

That's the case of a relative..

American father. he recoginzed her
She was born here.
Has US passport and costarican cedula... weird but true !!!

About the guys being escorted, sad case because it happens most of the time you end up in jail until you pay....

Now, what makes me wonder is.. If you know you are going to leave the country by air and you know you have to pay Ch*ld support.... why don't you pay for it ? why get embarresed at the counter?

Now here a case for Ticos... if you are paying Ch*ld support on normal basis, if you need to leave the country... you will leave ONLY if the mother of the K*D agrees... how about that?

The only way to get around on it is, if you deposit a full year of Ch*ld support.....that sucks !!!


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