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Well, I guess now I am a little confused. I just read a thread about someone being the "Biggest boss I've ever seen." So, maybe the original post is arrogance showing through on the part of the poster. In other words, he is saying that if you aren't good looking, speak spanish or have game, you will find it difficult in the HDR. Those who don't speak spanish will pale in comparison to a young, good looking, tall man who does speak spanish. Am I closer to being on track here? Just asking.

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Wonder why the guys with good info don't post any more? Just look at this thread... :roll:


I get lost in some of these threads and go on to the next or even better, back to work. Hey, maybe they are doing me a favor.

I want to read the "Reader's Digest" version not an extended 38 minute Greatful Dead Jam session. Too much information for a simpleton like me to keep up.


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Dapanz1 - The reference is from a little known Hip-Hop song called "Boss' Life" by some obscure rapper named Snopp Dogg. Perhaps you have heard of him...

In this case the lyrics are appropriate. 8)

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Dapanz1 - The reference is from a little known Hip-Hop song called "Boss' Life" by some obscure rapper named Snopp Dogg. Perhaps you have heard of him...


OK...and.....?? My question remains. Am I any closer to the understanding?

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Apologies to Cujo. It's probably my fault that this thread turned into a Colombia discussion.

I was really trying to bring up two points. One was that places like the HDR are far from unique in the mongering world and the other was that some of the skills or game we develop at the HDR or similar places can translate to the civilian world.

I've been to places in Asia that are far bigger, but the same rules apply. Figuring out how to find the winners and get the best performance is not much different than in Costa Rica. Expect in Asia there's almost no chance you're going to know the local language. On the other hand the chicas in Asia make much more of an effort to learn English.

That's why I've found Latin America to be so good - I can communicate better with the less-experienced chicas.

The first time I was in the HDR, it was a Friday night. I wasn't really overwhelmed. I was wondering why the BM bar was so small. It took me a while to figure out that the casino and restaurant areas also counted as part of the action. Of course speaking with the vets is the best way to get the lay of the land. CRT guys whose handles I don't remember were a great help to me, especially with advice about the best times to hit the various MPs.


At least the second half of this thread is a lot easier to follow and more lucid than the first half.

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What he was saying is that CR is a feast but it is not the alllll-you-can-eat that it has been in the past. Yes, there are still a large number of available women, but....

There are fewer really outstanding specimens. People who know me know I like the 10s. They are in extremely short supply and there are fewer 9s, fewer Colombianas et al. Contrary to some clueless popular beliefs, having a great time with a really hot girl is not all about the money.

Cujo is saying that, while virtually anyone can get laid in CR, the quality of the ladies and the experience can be much, much better if you speak some Spanish, take care of yourself physically and in regards to your personal grooming/hygiene, and if you happen to know a little about game.

Is any of that necessary to get laid in CR? Hell no! However, take a look at this example: Say there are people eating in a fine dining establishment and people eating from the dumpster out back, Now both groups of people got fed but the experience was definitely different for each.

So, ya wanna eat up front with the big dogs or are you happy with the leftovers out back? Your choice...

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Dapanz...what I took from what Jadcujo was saying.....is that in a sausage-fest type market, you need something to set you apart from the trolling chicas (besides just upping the $$ offered). It has been discussed many many times about speaking Spanish as an obvious advantage over those who don't. That, a great attitude and looking good would have to help in that type of situation...IMHO

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I will try to offer an example.

Last night a girl that I meet about a week ago at the Del Rey but only exchanged phone numbers called me and said she was at the Morazon and asked if I was interested in seeing her.

I was there in 30 minutes. She had a friend with her , "coaching" her. " One hour, One hundred Dollars ".

I got her away from her friend and explained I did not like the "Hotel Asia" that her friend was recommending.

Telling her that she was very pretty and I don't take too many girls, I wanted to enjoy my time with her not just have a 7 minute quickie.

I told her that if she was rushed today, I understand and she can call me anytime she has a more relaxed schedule.

I described how nice the Hotel Eden is with king size bed , jacuzzi, room service, etc and assured her she would have a good time as long as she promised to try and enjoy herself.

It may be silly but I try to play the "date game" a little, so I don't like to appear too prepared. I usually pretend like I had no intention of taking a girl but "if she insist". I stopped at the gas station and bought condoms even though I had some in my car, and a few beers for her.

At the hotel I asked her to find something on tv while I used the restroom.
As usual , she had the tv on the porn channel when I returned. I acted accosted.

The jucazzi was now full and she crawled in. I asked for a "show" and she gave me one. Very nice time for a few hours instead of the "one hour" as her friend suggested. I was actually ready to go before her.


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I've never had a problem in the DR, and I really dont think anyone would. Well, unless you look like Quasimodo and smell like you havent bathed in a week. I'm about 50 lbs overweight, and I've never had issues. The dead presidents do all the talking. Not everyone in there is gonna be a spanish speaking Brad Pitt look a like.

For me, I like the 10's, but my experience with them hasnt been as good as with the 7's or 8's. The other girls know they arent as hot, and try a little harder to me it seems. Although I did meet a 9.8 who acted like a 5 in trying to please me, I've written about her in a previous trip report, even got my last night free w/ her.

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-be clean
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No such thing as an objective "ten". Case and point- I find some of the dolled up Colombians not very attractive (although many are amazing looking). My idea of a ten will be very different than someone elses. I personally pind Nicas to be the best looking women at the DR. Is that a "fact"? Of course not, it is personal taste. I also have found them, from my experience, to be the best preformers in Central America (Based on having mongered in each country, with the exception of Panama).. Again, is this fact? No, personal prefernce. I have never found a problem finding girls that turn me on at the DR- that is my bottom line. I want a women that I find hot that has a great attitude that passes my interview (i.e. I can be pretty certain that she will pretend to act as if she is in love with me). Yes, some days are bette then other, some months, some years, ect...

Yes, the more "game" you have, the better. And what is game? It is your way of increasing your odds of having the kind of expereince that YOU want. My "game" will not work for others, and visa virsa...

It always has been the case that if you speak Spansih well you are more likley to be able to connnect on some level, which certianly helps with GFE if that is what you are after...

That said, one of our member seems to have done fairly well with a behavioral check list and cash- I was always impressed with that method-whatever works for ya...

Of course, most of the women are going to prefer to be with someone with is attractive, well educated, warm, ect. ALL things being equal (e.g. money)...Just human nature.....

It is the dirty little secret around here that we don't talk about- some guys are going to be more attractive to some women, and some guys will be attractive to less...we do what we can with what we have...

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Psych...well said.

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Winner of the “The HDR can be a tough place for the average guy” Awards go to:

For spot on analysis:

Kickstand wrote:

Treating the chicas like regular people (not like pros) is a big deal. If they're comfortable with you then you're going to have a much better time with them. Having some game is also important for getting the best performance whether in San Jose or in your own home town. In San Jose it makes the chicas feel more normal and less like pros if that makes any sense.


For condensed version of what I’m really saying goes to:

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Dapanz...what I took from what Jadcujo was saying.....is that in a sausage-fest type market, you need something to set you apart from the trolling chicas (besides just upping the $$ offered). It has been discussed many many times about speaking Spanish as an obvious advantage over those who don't. That, a great attitude and looking good would have to help in that type of situation...IMHO

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What he was saying is that CR is a feast but it is not the alllll-you-can-eat that it has been in the past. Yes, there are still a large number of available women, but....

There are fewer really outstanding specimens. People who know me know I like the 10s. They are in extremely short supply and there are fewer 9s, fewer Colombianas et al. Contrary to some clueless popular beliefs, having a great time with a really hot girl is not all about the money.

Cujo is saying that, while virtually anyone can get laid in CR, the quality of the ladies and the experience can be much, much better if you speak some Spanish, take care of yourself physically and in regards to your personal grooming/hygiene, and if you happen to know a little about game.

Is any of that necessary to get laid in CR? Hell no! However, take a look at this example: Say there are people eating in a fine dining establishment and people eating from the dumpster out back, Now both groups of people got fed but the experience was definitely different for each.

So, ya wanna eat up front with the big dogs or are you happy with the leftovers out back? Your choice...


For the “I don’t know what to tell you, but right on brother” award goes to:


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I've never had a problem in the DR, and I really dont think anyone would. Well, unless you look like Quasimodo and smell like you havent bathed in a week. I'm about 50 lbs overweight, and I've never had issues. The dead presidents do all the talking. Not everyone in there is gonna be a spanish speaking Brad Pitt look a like.

For me, I like the 10's, but my experience with them hasnt been as good as with the 7's or 8's. The other girls know they arent as hot, and try a little harder to me it seems. Although I did meet a 9.8 who acted like a 5 in trying to please me, I've written about her in a previous trip report, even got my last night free w/ her.

Keys to success at the DR-

-be clean
-a wad of cash

period.



Also, Dapanz1. Pac is a little off. The reference “I’m the biggest boss that you’ve seen thus far” is a reference from a song. I cleared that up in my trip report. It’s just my way of being silly like that. If you gave me a chance to buy you a beer, hopefully you will understand how I’m a jokester like that.

Also, no worries about the thread being hijacked. It happens but I appreciate efforts to get this back on track.

I actually don’t have any more to add to this thread. I appreciate the opinions of everybody and realize that’s just what my comments are…an opinion.

Pura Vida bitches,

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Jadcujo wrote:
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Just wanted to mention what a difference just a year makes at the DR. Obviously I'm not saying anything new here at all, but I feel I need to say that it isn't the candy store it once was.

I will get around to a trip report soon enough (a short version anyway)

Now more than ever (as if it were possible) guys, learn as much Spanish as you can, keep yourself in decent shape, and carry yourself well. Pickins can be pretty slim, get all your squares filled so it doesn't matter what the action is like so long as you get your beauty for the night.

But for the newbie gringo out there hitting the DR for the first time , who's vocab consist of "Hola" :shock: Good luck my man....
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My first trip to CR in May 2006 I was a fat Phuck, I knew 5 words of Spanish and paid CIEN. And guess what? It was a live-altering experience that got me back on a plane within 2 weeks. And booking the Rey itself for the second trip, I reproduced the results... Of course the reason for my enjoyment had more to do with the existential "me" and where I was in my own journey in life, and little to do with the objective "state of the Del Rey" itself. Yeah like most fellas who turned a trip into an obsession, I learned the language and enjoyed a little bit more banter with the chicas. For me it was part of the discovery process. It was needed to learn about their lives, their country, and the Latin world culture in general and I was curious about these things where most are not. BUT! :!: For the immediate business transaction itself, knowing espanol meant very little... :shock: :lol: You can speak Spanish all you like, you can make them laugh at your spanish jokes,,,you can crack up to their bromas...very good...Disfruta! That's something your non-spanish speaking buddies won't be able to experience...but remember, if you are chatting up a chica in the HDR, KL or SL or any other mongering locale...and start believing you are a stud and schmoozing them for real :shock: :P ...guess what? You are not! :P You're still a mark, a chump, and a mae in their eyes... While they may appear to be enjoying your latin charisma more now that you can say "que bonita", they are STILL wondering how much they are going to extract from your spanish-speaking wallet and how quickly they can do it. Ultimately don't really care one way or the other, The girls have close to ZERO respect for us. ZERO. Spanish or not. Flaco o gordo.

I doubt you will get a much better session whether your C*ck speaks English or Spanish, and even if you speak Spanish you are still a RICH GRINGO in their eyes and you will not be offered the tico price.

The only thing I find legitimately beneficial about knowing Spanish is that you probably reduce your risk of being set-up or ripped off a little bit. Bad chicas use the fact you don't understand their language and can play you right underneath your nose,,,like the French waiter in National Lampoon's European Vacation. So as a matter of safety, knowing espanol can be beneficial.

As to the advice offered that being fit will be result in a better sex life, and being smartly dressed and groomed will be pleasing to the opposite sex all i can say is........DUH!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Not sure anyone asked this, but is a 10 on your first trip to CR still a 10 on your 3rd trip to CR?

Just wondering if this 10 thing is just a matter of getting picky, because so much is there to choose from.

People who say that it isn't now what it was a year ago... come on, a year isn't a lot of time, especially in the HDR and the like. I posted a poll about 9 months ago (???) and asked the average time a woman in CR is in the business. Many thought more than 3 years and even longer which surprised me (I forget the exact results, but it was way longer than I expected). Judging from the poll, it seems a lot of the same chicas should be in the HDR... even the 10s.

I still think finding a 10 is easy, but finding a 10 with a good attitude at a reasonable price in the HDR is pushing it.


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BUT! :!: For the immediate business transaction itself, knowing espanol meant very little... :shock: :lol: You can speak Spanish all you like, you can make them laugh at your spanish jokes,,,you can crack up to their bromas...very good...Disfruta! That's something your non-spanish speaking buddies won't be able to experience...but remember, if you are chatting up a chica in the HDR, KL or SL or any other mongering locale...and start believing you are a stud and schmoozing them for real :shock: :P ...guess what? You are not! :P You're still a mark, a chump, and a mae in their eyes... While they may appear to be enjoying your latin charisma more now that you can say "que bonita", they are STILL wondering how much they are going to extract from your spanish-speaking wallet and how quickly they can do it. Ultimately don't really care one way or the other, The girls have close to ZERO respect for us. ZERO. Spanish or not. Flaco o gordo.

I doubt you will get a much better session whether your C*ck speaks English or Spanish, and even if you speak Spanish you are still a RICH GRINGO in their eyes and you will not be offered the tico price.


Absolutely words to live by in the Del Rey. Don't fool yourselves newbies - THIS is the real 411 and what it's really all about.

And once you inculcate this bit of wisdom, things actually become easier, believe it or not. You realize that it's all a game, and you don't put up with nearly as much bullshit as you might otherwise.

And especially key is this: always remember that while for us it's a pleasant diversion, for them it's a LIVLIHOOD - they need US more than we need THEM.


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