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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:19 am 
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Success in a relationship with a hooker is possible. It's like threading the eye of a needle with the head of a Clydesdale. It can be done. First you start with a very, very large needle... say 10 feet in length. Next, you locate a witchdoctor in Africa who shrinks heads. Wa-la! Success after a whole lot of time and effort! :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:55 am 
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They all end up back in the Del Rey eventually... The draw of the money is too strong..


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:56 am 
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Phantom wrote:
You guys are such dorks! You all think you are so damn smart. I know several successful relationships. Myself included. I am with a former working girl and it does not involve payments and I have very little grief, at least not any more than you would have with any other woman. In fact, she treats me like a king.

The ones that are successful in relationships disappear off your radar screens. The last thing any of them want is jerks like you guys to know where they are and what they are doing when they get their lives turned around.


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So you just joined the forum and started posting because? By your statements above, you should be off the radar.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:36 pm 
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J0sie wrote:
Phantom wrote:
You guys are such dorks! You all think you are so damn smart. I know several successful relationships. Myself included. I am with a former working girl and it does not involve payments and I have very little grief, at least not any more than you would have with any other woman. In fact, she treats me like a king.

The ones that are successful in relationships disappear off your radar screens. The last thing any of them want is jerks like you guys to know where they are and what they are doing when they get their lives turned around.


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So you just joined the forum and started posting because? By your statements above, you should be off the radar.
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Because ......... I see guys that don't really know what they are talking about posting remarks that reflect both ignorance and arrogance. If you don't like what I say, that is fine, but I'm living it and these other jokers are just habitual posters with nothing better to do with their time.

Visitors to the gulch are exposed to a false reality and really NONE of you really have a clue what goes on behind the screens (QBF may be the one exception). This board gives you a leg up on other visitors, but the fact is you are all visitors and what you all see is just a show. Some visitors know the show better than others, but unless you live here, you are not getting back stage. NOT A CHANCE! And if you are not back stage my friend, then all you know is what they show you. I am back stage, the posters are in the audience.

So when I see these jokers arrogantly spouting off, when they have no clue what they are talking about, I decide to chime in.

I don't care how much these guys post, they don't have a clue. When you live here awhile, as I have for 8 years, you start to scratch below the surface and ONLY then do you even begin to have a clue what is really going on here.

When it comes to the lives of these women, I promise, the guys that spout off that don't actually live here have absolutely NO clue what they are talking about and they should stop pretending that they do.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:02 pm 
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Thirdworld wrote:
They all end up back in the Del Rey eventually... The draw of the money is too strong..


That is just bull. The fact is the shelf life of the VAST majority of DR hookers is very short. Any guy that has made multiple trips should know this. There is a core group, about 20% hard core that have been there for more than 2 or 3 years. But that place cycles through chicas very quickly.

The vast majority get out of that place as soon as they are able because the truth is they find most of you guys disgusting and stupid. You guys are frequently referred to as "goats". Baa Baa ...... LOL. So true.

Most of my girl friends are ex -DR hookers that are doing something else with their lives. I know (or know of) at least 20 of them.


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I concur with Phantom here in his take on working girls. I would NOT begin and end my search for true love in the Del Rey, but people who want to paint every working girl with the same brush are off base. Some guys here seem to want to see the world in black and white, either/or. A hooker is a hooker, period. If you can't discern any difference between them, then it's probably best to avoid them totally (except as sexual release).

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And why does a guy join a board about hookers when he has a girlfriend unless he is full of shit? And talk about all his conquests... I'm sure we are all duely impressed...haha


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EX working chicas and current working chicas are 2 different things. Zebra's comment was about working chicas.

I will agree that the vast majority have no clue about the lives of hookers outside of the DR. on the other hand, I have 3 very good working amigas... Colombians... who I have spent alot of time with outside of the DR. I have a clue and I don't live in CR. there are exceptions to everything.

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Berk2302 wrote:
EX working chicas and current working chicas are 2 different things. Zebra's comment was about working chicas.

I will agree that the vast majority have no clue about the lives of hookers outside of the DR. on the other hand, I have 3 very good working amigas... Colombians... who I have spent alot of time with outside of the DR. I have a clue and I don't live in CR. there are exceptions to everything.

Berk....

Have to agree with Berk here you can not generalize about everyone on the board or all the BM exs, phantoms comments are laced with veracity but he comes off a little condescending and absolute in terms because hes trying to prove his point..... that things are very different once you live in CR and know em a while....which is true


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Believe me, once you think you "know" is when the trouble starts.. Not trying to be funny just a cautionary tale... In 9 years I've seen so many guys think one thing with a chica and the situation is totally the opposite. Heard chicas diss a guy that you would swear was in control and him not even knowing it... The girls I've seen do this are not necesarily trying to be bad or hurt anyone. They just developed this edge by the business they were in... Hey, I think I probably come across one way, but I love hanging out with these chicas. They can be a lot of fun and even hanging out with ones you are laying is cool. You just have to keep things in perspective and not expect a lot. They are like a tribe and they have their ways.... Hard to break through that. But they can be wonderful friends. Probably way better friends than significant others.. I really think some of them will do more for a guy they are not sleeping with than they will for a boyfriend. Just a thought.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:30 pm 
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Thirdworld wrote:
Believe me, once you think you "know" is when the trouble starts.. Not trying to be funny just a cautionary tale... In 9 years I've seen so many guys think one thing with a chica and the situation is totally the opposite.


That is true of Costa Rica in general. It is not just a puta thing.

If they don't love you, they will play you. How do you know if they love you? No easy answer to that. If you can break them of asking for money, that is a good start. Get them to ditch the cell phone, that is another good sign. If they get a real job and start living a normal life, you are certainly making progress.

Never send money, unless you are happy with the value you are getting out of the transaction. Long distance relationships are strictly business. You can help with bills, but NEVER give them the money. Set up a Banco National account and pay them electronicly yourself. If they are not happy with this arrangement, well then they are playing you. If you think they might be playing you, then they are. NEVER give them the benefit of the doubt, particularly if they are not working and they have a big cell phone bill. If you are paying her "not to work in the Del Rey", then you are a client and she is working their when you are not around. Don't be a sucker, that is what they do. There is a script on how they work you guys and the stories are almost always the same.

You must earn their respect. You must demonstrate that you know the game and you are not playing. Once you have their respect, then and only then do you have a chance to you win their heart. It is true that most of these women, especially the hard core ones, have no respect for men, especially Gringos because they are so gullable. They are just there to play you if you are not strong in the relationship. You will NEVER earn their respect if you act like a client. They will never respect you if you give them money every time they come up with one of their sob stories.

If you are not strong in the relationship, they will walk all over you. That is an absolute fact. If you are strong, they have an attraction for you and if they are REALLY tired of the game, then you have a chance. How do you know if they are really tired of the game, check out their cell phone bill or their email account. If they resist you are being played.

Hope this helps guys.......Happy hunting and good luck! You will need it.


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Phantom,

I agree with most of what you posted. But damn, you are painting "visitors" with a pretty wide brush as well. I don't think you have to live there to know what's going on behind the scenes. But all of that doesn't matter if your there to just party and phuck chicas and leave anyway.

There's some wayward comments on here from time to time. But trust, there's a few more of us that know what's up ... :idea: :wink:


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Maybe I'm just way jaded now, but reading through this thread - and seeing in person how it's happening more and more often - I just can't believe that anyone under any circumstances would want to get emotionally involved with someone they hooked up with via PFP. And moreover provide any sort of financial support whatsoever. Have guys lost their minds?

Okay - you had a great, fantastic experience. Maybe the best sex of your life. You felt special...

Wake up! It was a fantasy that you paid for. Move on and have another one...

Or get out of the monger game and jump through all the difficult hoops required to develop a real relationship.


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Phantom,

I agree with most of what you posted. But damn, you are painting "visitors" with a pretty wide brush as well. I don't think you have to live there to know what's going on behind the scenes. But all of that doesn't matter if your there to just party and phuck chicas and leave anyway.

There's some wayward comments on here from time to time. But trust, there's a few more of us that know what's up ... :idea: :wink:


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Honestly, I think the only way that these women will really let you in to see what is really going on is when they know you are around full time.

When they know your time here is finite, they only show you what they think you want to see.

I know a lot of you guys are really seasoned and know your way around. But when one of these women opens their heart and bears their soul, the reality of what really goes on is FAR beyond anything any of you guys ever talk about on this BB. I promise you that.

Oh, one more thing.

A very high percentage of these women are either incest or rape victims. Nearly all have serious psychological problems. If you are involved with a Puta you should expect to deal with Multiple Personality Disorders, Depression, Manic Depression and Extreme Jealousy.

These women do a great job of masking these problems and they do not typically surface while they are working. If you have not had to deal with types of problems, then you are probably still a client and not really a boy friend.

ALSO, you must know that the Professional Girl Friend is the most lucrative segment of the Puta business. If you are paying, you are a client. You are a fool if you think otherwise. More likely than not, they have other guys paying them as well to be their one and only girl friend.

All that said, my ex-puta girl friend is no bigger pain in the ass than my gringa ex-wife of most of my gringa girl friends. On the positive side she is the most loving and affectionate woman I have ever been with. She takes very good care of me. Gringas just take care of themselves.


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Gotcha- actually I need to back pedal a bit since this thread is discussing guys falling or looking for love in all the wrong places.

Like I said, I agree with most of what you say ( I tend to have decent luck with gringas) but its also a bummer to hear some of these chica stories. I speak fluently so at least %25 of the time I session with a girl in my room, I will hear a story that's pretty phucked up.

I never get a sense from these girls that they are working on my heart strings for sympathy or money, but rather to just have someone to talk to about it. Which at times makes me feel shitty for a bit. I'd rather it be an upsell tactic so I could blow it off faster.So if there was one con about being fluent, is hearing some things chicas say.

So my last post had little to do with the actual topic. I just dont feel you need to be around the daily grind to know what's up. This upcoming trip I'm sure 5 or 6 chicas will catch me up.

Through my actions, conversation etc.. I (in no certain terms) come off to most of those chicas as a guy who isn't going to get "goo-goo" eyes because she's cute. They understand I'm here for good time and no need to build a fantasy. I think that puts most of them at ease. To be real, I just want PSE action most of the time. But you make some good points.


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