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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:59 am 
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Enough sugar-coating for political correctness, it’s time for some hard truth. Read carefully Berk and then roll your eyes and ignore me. I know what I’m talking about, and so do most of the members here, which is why I’m getting tired of listening to this immature, inexperienced, sexist, racist, arrogance on your part.

What we’re dealing with here is a guy who doesn’t know anything about the business, other than his own particular end-user experiences, his own personal psychological demons, and his political, sexual, and racial prejudices. ........


All this coming from a guy who took his first trip to CR 4 MONTHS AGO. :lol: :lol: :lol: Now I'm a RACIST too! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I don't know what you're smoking in Plano, but I would cut back.

This thread is "Treating hookers like you would want to be treated". It's about extending to another, in a business transaction, the common courtesy of asking them what is owed when it is time to pay up, instead of making a unilateral decesion and seeing if they'll go for it when a prior agreement has not been made. It has to do with common courtesy... something learned and ingrained in one's character apart from any mongering experience. Even though I have made 16 trips to SJO in the last 3 years it has NOTHING to do with experience. It has everything, though, to do with what your momma taught you.
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This thread is "Treating hookers like you would want to be treated". It's about extending to another, in a business transaction...

No, this thread is about Berk trying to push his agenda and teach every monger that these are business transactions where the price should be agreed upon before the work commences (similar to hiring a guy to paint your house). I think you've done a good job, you have convinced most mongers. :roll: It was uncleverly masked as a "I'm looking out for these businesswomen who nasty gringos are trying to take advantage of". :roll:

Yes, we know it's business, but if you treat it as such, that's exactly what you're going to get.


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Yes, we know it's business, but if you treat it as such, that's exactly what you're going to get.

But my chica is different !!! :oops: :shock: :lol:

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Hostile. Vitriol. Puerile. Futile. Got everybody's attention now?
"A man convinced against his will/ Is of the same opinion still", so the question is, Who is either side trying to convince? Assuredly not each other--maybe the 15000 Great Unheard From Brothers who never post and who by this time are thoroughly confused or disgusted or both. It couldn't be just p*ssing contest ego-flexing, could it? I mean we're all too mature for that aren't we?
So here's a solution: each side write a 25-word Statement of Position, post it and we'll have a independent panel judge who is more persuasive ( my panel choices are Elroy and Greengo). Then we can bury this forever.

P.S.Blessed are the peacemakers, for they catch cr*p from both sides--but I couldn't not try.

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I ve found a good way to handle these situations

make 8 different stacks of money on the dresser each increasing in by $20 (60 - 200) tell her she can have any one stack










then give her a a 42% propina of that stack for her madre :lol: :lol: 8) :P

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But my chica is different !!! :oops: :shock: :lol:


Yes they are. Rumor has it they have something "extra" about them. :D

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This is a board in which OPINIONS are frequently expressed. Should you find such expressed OPINIONS are not to your liking DON"T READ THE THREAD. It is a commonly accepted principal around here and not that difficult to apply.


No, you don't get off that easy. This is a thread about you attacking a fellow board member who, by all accounts, is a good guy, and doing so for no legitimate reason (just typical Berk negativity).

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All this from a guy who took his first trip to CR 4 months ago


I've been doing this actively for 22 years. How about you?

You could be a stand up guy and apologize for being obnoxious to a fellow board member. Then everyone will get off your back. I'm not looking to hold a grudge, but actions have consequences. And I don't like seeing someone be mean just because they are sitting behind a computer screen instead of sitting next to someone at the bar, where you would never say the things you say to people.

But either way, I'm off your back now, I've said what I have to say. And unless you've got more you want to say on the matter, I'm done.


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Berk= nice job in pissing people off with illogical, ad homenim arguments..bravo!!

Guys..I am one to gets pissed at troll like behavior, and certainly have been known to bite back..but, Berk is trying to get our goats- let him masterbate in his anger...

The part of his post that makes sense?

Yes, treat women with respect and dignity..

AND also set good limts and bounderies and dont be a tool..be kind, but firm..

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I have bitten my tongue for four pages, no mas.

Berk, you are absolutely right that not negotiating a price upfront then paying less than "the norm" is less than honorable. However, you have given no evidence that that was the case in this situation.

I know that you have made XX trips in X years. So what? Doing the same thing over and over again does not broaden experience, it merely reinforces misconceptions. Let me introduce you to some new thoughts:

- The standard "tourista" price for a DR hottie is $100 per hora. That price structure has no merit for mongers who know the chicas and the rest of the story.

- Many very nice young ladies happily stay with their fellas for $80-$125 per day. These are "return engagements", often arranged py phone in advance. I know of several chicas who would happily abandon a tourist who was paying them three times as much for $100 a day with "their man". No coercion required. They genuinely like their "amigos" and enjoy spending time with them. The money is still important but it is secondary to spending time with their guy.

- I often take women I know by simply asking if they want to be with me tonight. I don't discuss money or time or services because we know each other. She knows she will be occupied for most of the night, she will have a great time, she will not want to go back to the DR when we are finished and she will receive $100. These are the top 1% of the HDR crowd and I have more takers than time (and I am doing nothing that anyone else can't do).

Berk, I am very sorry that your experiences have lead you to believe that women are all about the money. Yes, it may be that way for you, but it does not have to be. We all have lessons to learn and I suggest that you "teach" less and try to learn a little more. As the members of this board have clearly stated, we are very tired of your one-note song.

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...Many very nice young ladies happily stay with their fellas for $80-$125 per day. These are "return engagements, often arranged py phone in advance. I know of several chicas who would happily abandon a tourist who was paying them three times as much for $100 a day with "their man". No coercion required. They genuinely like their 'amigos" and enjoy spending time with them. The money is still important but it is secondary to spending time with their guy....

Pac55,
Berk might not believe the above quote, especially coming from you. But IMO, this quote is dead-on-balls-accurate! And I'm sure that you and I are not the only ones that believe this.

I know Berk has a hard time believing that NOTHING is more important to the chicas than money, but it is not always that black-and-white. It's unfortunate that he will probably never experience something like your above statement. :roll: :wink:

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Pacifica55 wrote:
...Many very nice young ladies happily stay with their fellas for $80-$125 per day. These are "return engagements, often arranged py phone in advance. I know of several chicas who would happily abandon a tourist who was paying them three times as much for $100 a day with "their man". No coercion required. They genuinely like their 'amigos" and enjoy spending time with them. The money is still important but it is secondary to spending time with their guy....

Pac55,
Berk might not believe the above quote, especially coming from you. But IMO, this quote is dead-on-balls-accurate! And I'm sure that you and I are not the only ones that believe this.

I know Berk has a hard time believing that NOTHING is more important to the chicas than money, but it is not always that black-and-white. It's unfortunate that he will probably never experience something like your above statement. :roll: :wink:



MG,

No doubt. Like I've said before I realized after my first trip that some guys get it and some don't. And for those that don't I guess that's the way it is, but it will never effect my time or sessions in CR.


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I will repete the issue and the theme of the thread...... This thread is "Treating hookers like you would want to be treated". It's about extending to another, in a business transaction, the common courtesy of asking them what is owed when it is time to pay up, instead of making a unilateral decesion and seeing if they'll go for it when a prior agreement has not been made.

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Pacifica55 wrote:
... That price structure has no merit for mongers who know the chicas and the rest of the story. ...

Berk, I am very sorry that your experiences have lead you to believe that women are all about the money.... we are very tired of your one-note song.


Clearly, you didn't even bother to read the original poster's comments that lead to this new thread. He just met her and this is NOT a thread about "it's all about the money.

It's a thread about common courtesy when it comes time to pay up when no one has agreed in advance what the fee arrangement is going to be.

All of you who continue to get side tracked on the issue at hand might want actually read the posts before you form comments. :idea: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Do you EVER read the posts before yours when you post....I am getting tired of saying your question has been answered SEVERAL times.....

READ, READ, amd RE-READ some of the VETERANS posts behind some of your ridiculous remarks.....


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