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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:46 pm 
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D2864,

Thanks for posting the link, makes more sense.

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Hey... "Special ED" (pun intended)...
I always enjoy a newbie report especially where the guy was so cheap giving the chica a truckload of cash (80 bucks) for spending the night and most of the day. Way to brag! You should be proud! :roll:
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Berk,

This economy sucks for everyone!

I'm pretty sure the chica is not losing as much sleep over this as you seem to be, let it go.

Also, don't think ED was bragging about anything in his post.

Remember, which is to say don't forget, the CRT mantra is "NO CIEN!"


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I remember the story now TP. Thanks for the recap. The mantra is no cien... no cien for an hour, but that's not the issue.

I started a new thread for a reason. Yes, the discussion did arise out of another thread, but there's a much bigger picture and it doesn't apply to just one individual.

We'll have all kinds of opinions here, but like I've already said... not a one of us on here in business for themselves would tolerate this kind of transaction. No one has yet to argue they would... hence the phrase "treat others like you would want to be treated".

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I never go to the room without establishing price and services. No one should .


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Ciaociao32001 wrote:
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I'm guessing this is an attempt to reframe your argument that Special Ed was somehow acting improperly when he gave his Tica $80 for a TLN, which you have every right to do, I suppose.
http://74.208.106.119/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 8&start=15

What is distasteful is your implication that Ed's acts somehow reflect a lack of character and respect for Ticas.

As CRT mongers go, I know Ed fairly well. I've spent a fair amount of time with him, I've shared emails with him, and I know at least a couple of Ticas who respect him. For what its worth, I think Ed is a stand up guy and would gladly vouch for him. For what its worth.

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Ciao, I could not have said it any better.


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How many girls would go without a price agreement anyways??[/quote]

I've had quite a few go without a price agreement, but they always expected and recieved cien afterwards :oops:


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Berk,

The cape and tights you're trying to wear just don't fit dude.

Trying at the last minute to don the garb of a superhero with your carefully re-crafted presentation just doesn't fly.


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Berk,

The cape and tights you're trying to wear just don't fit dude.

Trying at the last minute to don the garb of a superhero with your carefully re-crafted presentation just doesn't fly.


Attempting to change the theme of the tread won't cut it. It's about treating working girls who are in business the same as you would want to be treated.

No one has yet to chime in and post that if the same situation was on the other foot, their foot, that they would find this acceptable behavior on the part of a customer. Why is that? Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it.

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Berk – hopefully this will answer you question and let this one die peacefully;
1. We do not answer because “We are the customer” and the Golden Rule is that those with the GOLD, rules. Just as we tell the newbies, not to pay up front, chicas can demand payment up front. But, see above, Golden Rule
2. I won’t let a “customer” put me on that situation because I will spell out as many conditions and requirements as possible. BTW – there is no reason for a chica not to the same to us. So the burden is on her
3. It is up to the chica to deliver the best service possible. She might blow me so hard that I just might give her the safe combination or NOT :roll: :roll: :roll:

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"No one has yet to chime in and post that if the same situation was on the other foot, their foot, that they would find this acceptable behavior on the part of a customer. Why is that? Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it. " ...


If I were a hooker in SJO and I just got $80 from a nice gringo, I'd be happy and not complaining about this the way you are. Rather, I'd be happy feeding my 2 K*ds and ungrateful boyfriend right now. So many other girls spent that night alone with no income at all. I'd feel good, thank you very much.


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Just as some girls are too shy to ask for more money, some guys are to shy/submissive to ask to pay less. The girl has every oportunity to say what she feels she should be paid, just as the guy has every opportunity to ask for what services he wants. This argument would be like a guy complaining that he didn't get a BBBJ when he NEVER asked for one.

The thread is called "treating hookers like you would want to be treated" and that is a perfect title. In my business, I tell my clients what my rate is BEFORE I start working. Furthermore, I give them an invoice imediately AFTER I am finished with the work. If I mentioned nothing about price and just expected them to pay "what they felt was fair" how can I possibly complain if they pay less than I feel they are worth.

Fact is, guys, we are not playing with Ch*ldren. We are engaging in a business transaction with adults, and I expect BOTH parties to behave as such when it comes to money.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:45 pm 
After a little time to think....

I see this as her fought if she wanted more than 80, because if money was the MOST important factor to her and she was disappointed, she only has herself to blame. It could be that she had a great time and so money wasn't the most important part of the time spent. Since she didn't complain, it just goes to show the Chica was one of the better in CR.

I have to agree that even though it was her fought, 80 for good service, a good time, all night and part of the next day was cheap especially knowing that 80 is often a bargain in CR for good sex lasting for only 60 minutes. I don't think Special Ed was bragging when he said that he paid 80, but instead just giving facts. To be honest, if I paid 80, I think I would have paid and then run really fast in the opposite direction.

If she has your email Special Ed and you get a RFM, you might want to consider a donation.


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Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it.


Uh, I do. And so does just about everyone else.

You aren't getting more people to argue with you (although you just got 5 in three hours, which after all is what this is all about, isn't it Berk) because no one thinks it's worth trying to explain it to you any more. You just aren't going to get it. You have issues with women and think that throwing excess cash at them is somehow a sign of respect. They laugh at guys like that (even the shy ones).

But I don't want you to think that I'm taking the position that we should treat them like crap. Far from it. I hate those guys too. I'm the nicest guy they've ever met (modest too). And I treat them better than any guy they've ever met (again, so humble). But I'm not a sucker, and don't get down on a knee and lick their boot while hemorrhaging cash because I've got a guilty conscious about my relationship with them. We understand each other fine. And they are always happy to come back to me fore more business. I don't get cold shoulders.

But this isn't about me, or any other guy on this board, and his personal relationship with the girls. This is all about you. I am in the minority in thinking that some day you will join the brotherhood of happy content customers who treat girls well but don't get taken for a ride and can live at peace with his fellow man.

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't even type that with a straight face.


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Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it.


Uh, I do. And so does just about everyone else.

You aren't getting more people to argue with you (although you just got 5 in three hours, which after all is what this is all about, isn't it Berk) because no one thinks it's worth trying to explain it to you any more. You just aren't going to get it. You have issues with women and think that throwing excess cash at them is somehow a sign of respect. They laugh at guys like that (even the shy ones).

But I don't want you to think that I'm taking the position that we should treat them like crap. Far from it. I hate those guys too. I'm the nicest guy they've ever met (modest too). And I treat them better than any guy they've ever met (again, so humble). But I'm not a sucker, and don't get down on a knee and lick their boot while hemorrhaging cash because I've got a guilty conscious about my relationship with them. We understand each other fine. And they are always happy to come back to me fore more business. I don't get cold shoulders.

But this isn't about me, or any other guy on this board, and his personal relationship with the girls. This is all about you. I am in the minority in thinking that some day you will join the brotherhood of happy content customers who treat girls well but don't get taken for a ride and can live at peace with his fellow man.

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't even type that with a straight face.


Well... there you go again. Attempting to change the theme of the thread, but now you are speaking for everyone else. What a load of crap.

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"No one has yet to chime in and post that if the same situation was on the other foot, their foot, that they would find this acceptable behavior on the part of a customer. Why is that? Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it. " ...


If I were a hooker in SJO and I just got $80 from a nice gringo, I'd be happy and not complaining about this the way you are. Rather, I'd be happy feeding my 2 K*ds and ungrateful boyfriend right now. So many other girls spent that night alone with no income at all. I'd feel good, thank you very much.


So in your opinion, a chica should just roll over for any old gringo that comes along. Try that with your average Colombiana and report back to us.

According to your logic...... when your boss walks in next week and hands you a paycheck for half the amount you would normally receive... just be grateful you got something!

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Because there is NO ONE on this board that believes it.


Uh, I do. And so does just about everyone else.

You aren't getting more people to argue with you (although you just got 5 in three hours, which after all is what this is all about, isn't it Berk) because no one thinks it's worth trying to explain it to you any more. You just aren't going to get it. You have issues with women and think that throwing excess cash at them is somehow a sign of respect. They laugh at guys like that (even the shy ones).

But I don't want you to think that I'm taking the position that we should treat them like crap. Far from it. I hate those guys too. I'm the nicest guy they've ever met (modest too). And I treat them better than any guy they've ever met (again, so humble). But I'm not a sucker, and don't get down on a knee and lick their boot while hemorrhaging cash because I've got a guilty conscious about my relationship with them. We understand each other fine. And they are always happy to come back to me fore more business. I don't get cold shoulders.

But this isn't about me, or any other guy on this board, and his personal relationship with the girls. This is all about you. I am in the minority in thinking that some day you will join the brotherhood of happy content customers who treat girls well but don't get taken for a ride and can live at peace with his fellow man.

Oh, who am I kidding. I can't even type that with a straight face.




Thanks Archie, you have echoed the thoughts of MANY of us veterans, whether Berk wants to believe it or not.

As I have said MANY times... Some guys come to Costa Rca and GET IT immediately, others can come 10 times and NEVER get it....and NEVER will.

We have all tried to help...I officially GIVE UP !!!



Berk2302 wrote:
speaking for everyone else. What a load of crap.

Berk....



Archie can speak for me (and I guarantee a LOT of us veterans) anytime on this subject, he is 100% accurate in his post above....


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