Love the train wreck or are you bothered by a fool in love?

Orange · **Joined:** Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:20 pm **Posts:** 12646

Whether a marriage works out or fails doesn't depend as much on whether the girl is a working girl or non-pro as it does on the people involved, and their intentions/reasons. I mean that for the girl, as well as the guy. Just flat out saying that it'll be a train-wreck isn't fair to those who can make it work.

El Ciego · **Posted:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:23 pm

Luck4unme wrote:

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Above all, when on a mongering venture, don't let yourself become vulnerable to falling in love with a hooker. You can do better.

This debate goes on ad nauseum. I read a study awhile back that declared prostitutes in developing countries were often more intelligent women who analyzed their situation. They were simply looking for practical solutions to thier poverty and high on the list was greater opportunity for their lives and their Ch*ldren.

The essence of the article stated that contrary to the stereotypical assumptions that sex workers are "low lifes" determined just the opposite. They would pay any price and sacrifice themselves for the betterment of their Ch*ldren and families. All in all, I find their motivations and decisions admirable. Who is smarter? The cashier at Perimercado making $50 a week and working 50 hours or the young mom's coming to my house and making the same amount for a few hours of good times?

Perhaps I am rationalizing my high regard for my favoritas. I like giving them money and believing I am contributing something to their difficult lives.

I receive 2-3 calls almost everyday from my "special friends" asking for a date. I don't pay much but have managed to uncover quite a few 7 and unders who certainly seem to enjoy working at my house. They wash the dishes, mop the floors, do the laundry, cook, eat, drink, dance and most importantly give and receive pleasure.

My house is clean. My physical desires are met and most importantly, my soul is nourished.

"My cup runneth over! A mi me gusto vivir in Paz!"

FWIW-YMMV

I don't think the debate here is about whether or not the chicas are worthy human beings, nor do I believe this discussion is about the enjoyment one can get by cultivating relationships with working girls. i think it has more to do with the guys who fall head over heels in love, sacrificing logic, money, and even self-worth to be with a woman who...let's face it...is unable to /incapable of forging "normal" relationships with gringos who might or might not move to C.R.

I think having favoritas would be cool...but I have fought against the use of "novia" (sweetheart/fiancee') for months. But what do I know?

Thirdworld · **Joined:** Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:07 am **Posts:** 4858

No debate, don't marry a hooker.. Anything else is just rationalizing a bad situation.. Odds dictate everything in life. If you are sitting at the blackjack table, you don't ever hit on 19 or 20, do you? Why? It is not impossible that you get a 2 or an Ace.

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

Does anyone ever find it amusing, or is it just me, that finds the "experts" on love and relationships on here are not in any kind of committed relationship. I guess the "I'll show um' who's boss" is really working out! :lol:

The very last person I want advise from is a john that wants me to believe he has all the answers. It's kind of like asking a criminal locked up in jail how to committ the perfect crime and he has all the answers.

Berk....

TimBones · **Posted:** Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:49 pm

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Does anyone ever find it amusing, or is it just me, that finds the "experts" on love and relationships on here are not in any kind of committed relationship. I guess the "I'll show um' who's boss" is really working out!

The very last person I want advise from is a john that wants me to believe he has all the answers. It's kind of like asking a criminal locked up in jail how to committ the perfect crime and he has all the answers.

Can I borrow your crystal ball, I want to win the lottery? :roll:

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

TimBones wrote:

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Does anyone ever find it amusing, or is it just me, that finds the "experts" on love and relationships on here are not in any kind of committed relationship. I guess the "I'll show um' who's boss" is really working out!

The very last person I want advise from is a john that wants me to believe he has all the answers. It's kind of like asking a criminal locked up in jail how to committ the perfect crime and he has all the answers.

Can I borrow your crystal ball, I want to win the lottery? :roll:

If I could figure out what your point was I would loan you my $1,300 Sybian! If you believe my comment was addressed to you... it wasn't. :roll:

Berk....

Dapanz1 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:49 am

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Does anyone ever find it amusing, or is it just me, that finds the "experts" on love and relationships on here are not in any kind of committed relationship. I guess the "I'll show um' who's boss" is really working out!

The very last person I want advise from is a john that wants me to believe he has all the answers. It's kind of like asking a criminal locked up in jail how to committ the perfect crime and he has all the answers.

Ditto. Have you ever noticed that some of the guys on this board have a real affinity for the threads related to "hooker/gringo relationships?" I have often thought about starting a thread entitled "Brotherly Love or Sour Grapes." The point being that so many guys yell at the top of their lungs about how disasterous relationships are with hookers. These guys are coming to save us all from ourselves whether we need it or not. Is it brotherly love? Are these guys so kind hearted and concerned about fellow man that they must insist that their message be heard? Or, could it be the yelling and screaming about the dangers be therapeutic. The cleansing of their own soles. The attempt at closure to some failed relationships either with hookers or "normal" women. Just something to think about. I tend to lean toward the latter. But, I really enjoy the engaging entertainment.

dapanz1

D2864 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:26 am

Dapanz1 wrote:

Or, could it be the yelling and screaming about the dangers be therapeutic.

I'm like this to a point - more in silence than out loud. It is sort of self-protecting - the more I say "no way" the better the chance that I'll avoid ever being caught up in such a situation. I actually can't say that a relationship with a hooker will be doomed. I would be really scared to try it with a Latina, however I wouldn't be scared to try with an Asian. Latinas just seem to be high strung and ready for any type of drama. Asians seem more laid back and less ready to have any fits in public or private and seem less conniving.

Of course, there are exceptions on both sides. There has to be at least one Latina hooker just hoping and praying to be rescued somewhere.

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:32 pm

Berk2302 wrote:

Does anyone ever find it amusing, or is it just me, that finds the "experts" on love and relationships on here are not in any kind of committed relationship. I guess the "I'll show um' who's boss" is really working out! :lol:

The very last person I want advise from is a john that wants me to believe he has all the answers. It's kind of like asking a criminal locked up in jail how to committ the perfect crime and he has all the answers.

Berk....

Maybe I can help, Berk. In order to be in a "committed relationship" you first have to want to be in a committed relationship. The fact that many of us who are and have been successful with women choose not to be in a committed relationship should maybe tell you something.

I was married twice in the early eighties when I was in my early thirties. Both women were "stop traffic" types, the last was a breathtaking blonde. After living with her for a year, I found myself thinking about other women constantly. Even though she was my physical and mental ideal, I had done everything I could think of with her and was just too familiar with the playing field.

After we divorced, I had a series of very satisfying relationships with a variety of beautiful women. The longest was a six year stint with a knockout redhead 20 years younger than I was. She kept my house, mowed the yard, washed the clothes and brought me women as well as taking care of every physical desire I could imagine. Since then, I have made bringing me women a prerequisite for relationships and I have not had a big problem making it happen.

My point:"Committed relationships" are a woman's dream, not a man's. That is why they chase us to get us in one and we do everything we can to avoid them. Claro? :wink:

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

My statement was rhetorical in nature and not a plea for "help". It was not intended to be either an expressd or implied license for a monologue punctuated with an overabundance of egotism.

Berk......

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:16 pm

Yes, I know, Berk. You were just throwing rocks. It makes no difference whether or not you made any sense (you didn't) you just wanted to throw the rocks. Now you don't appreciate it when someone lobs them back at you... :lol:

Czar · **Posted:** Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:20 pm

J0sie wrote:

Guys, we will never understand the mentality of the â€œCapt-Save-A-Hoâ€ but you do have to admire their hard work. Between sending money to CR and trying to get visas for their novias, it got to be exhausting. Plus, the daily calls and trying to check on their novias. Iâ€™m already exhausted just writing about it.

:idea:

One thing that Iâ€™m going to modify on my next trip in June 11 is to show more affection and play the â€œCapt-Save-A-Hoâ€ sickness. I bet we can get some extra mileage out of the chicas.

BTW â€“ I brought the chairs, who is bringing the beer?

I just read this section and though this was some funny S*hit. :lol:

TimBones · **Posted:** Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:53 pm

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Ditto. Have you ever noticed that some of the guys on this board have a real affinity for the threads related to "hooker/gringo relationships?" I have often thought about starting a thread entitled "Brotherly Love or Sour Grapes." The point being that so many guys yell at the top of their lungs about how disasterous relationships are with hookers. These guys are coming to save us all from ourselves whether we need it or not. Is it brotherly love? Are these guys so kind hearted and concerned about fellow man that they must insist that their message be heard? Or, could it be the yelling and screaming about the dangers be therapeutic. The cleansing of their own soles. The attempt at closure to some failed relationships either with hookers or "normal" women. Just something to think about. I tend to lean toward the latter. But, I really enjoy the engaging entertainment.

I recommend that you do start the thread you are talking about as I am sure the myraid of dumbasses that got burned in such relationships would all weigh in to tell us.....what?, that we told you so and they didn't listen??? :roll:

Personally, I would love to have a guy like Rolltide accuse someone of having alterior motivations rather than trying to keep the idiot from financially and emotionally destroying himself. :roll:

I think it would be akin to telling someone over and over "if you play with fire you will get burned" just to have the same dumbasses light a book of matches and grip them tightly. Still waiting on someone to actually learn from all these documented debacles. :roll:

Perhaps concern for my fellow man might fit the bill as to my motivation for continually trying to talk sense to these assorted deluded males?

I would also yell fire if one of them was on fire :wink:

BTW, I never pretended to "date" a hooker or have one as a gf and never will. Therefore, there is nothing to be sour about. All my relationships have been real. I am currently waiting on my real gringa gf to come home to give me a little bit this evening So, once again, there is nothing to be sour about I say this on the off hand chance that you are directing your comment at the author of the thread. :wink:

Zippy · **Joined:** Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:04 pm **Posts:** 2667

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"if you play with fire you will get burned"

Me thinks you should fight fire with fire so the whole shit house goes up in flames...

burn baby burn.... :lol:

PacoLoco · **Posted:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:12 am

What about the success stories? One member posted his esposa whom he met "down yonder" is expecting again and apparently happy, several others have gone fiance visa recently. Then there's all the guys involved to some extent that never post about their relationships not to mention the dozens (or hundreds) of non-CRT guys constantly pulling working girls off the market and/or marrying them. Yeah it's all about the money- so what? Guys want sex and companionship, chicas want money and security, seems like a fair trade and a simple one if the guy doesn't have his head up his ass and lose touch with the realities of the arrangement. I know a guy that married one and they seem sorta happy sometimes, which is probably on par with marrying a spoiled gringa (but you get more sex). Looks like the key is not tolerating the BS, being able to afford what you expect from them and being able to spend enough time in country to keep a watchful eye until you are together all the time. If you can do that I think many chicas are happy to actually get out of the life and will even move to the states. They're not all evil money grubbing putas, even though they've learned to act that way.

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