advise please - newbie to novias

Santas Bro · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 3:27 pm

Quote:

Dos tetas tiran mÃ¡s que dos carretas.

Translation:
Two breasts pull more than two wagons.

Interpretation:
The ability of women to get things in their favor due to their beauty and sexuality.

As one of my crew members said to me:

"Did it hurt you physically? Did it cost you any money? Then what is the problem?"

As long as you are not mentally attached, nor is it costing you money, ride that wild pony!!!

Health & happiness to all...

Steve - Santas Bro

p.s. Spanky might better understand micrometers!!! :shock:

Mucho Gusto · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 3:50 pm

Santas Bro wrote:

p.s. Spanky might better understand micrometers!!! :shock:

LOL !!!!! Nice one SB! Spanky's lack of any size or girth is well known around these parts! :lol:

Spanky · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 4:12 pm

Mucho Gusto wrote:

Santas Bro wrote:

p.s. Spanky might better understand micrometers!!! :shock:

LOL !!!!! Nice one SB! Spanky's lack of any size or girth is well known around these parts! :lol:

Since you will both be in SJO for the 4th, I am going to whip my gigantic mule out and prove to you less endowed, geriatric gentlemen what it means to be a young monger again.

TimBones · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 10:35 pm

Dude, do a search on the topic. You will find that the subject has been covered more than the whereabouts of DB Cooper. Some may disagree, but I think the success rate of such a realationship is exactly ZERO. Sorry, no good news, but enjoy it while you watch your wallet. :wink:

Mia2Ewr · **Posted:** Tue May 27, 2008 10:51 pm

Wise words have been posted by some wise gentlemen...and Mucho Gusto

...I say ride the wave but don't let it end up in a crash. :shock:

Protect youself and your assets but enjoy the fun during your brief trip(s).

D2864 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 2:48 am

JBntex786 wrote:

as time passed I paid her less and less.

Did you make up for the less and less at the end of your trip? They are all about the money - you aren't special - so I wonder what the payoff is for her? Before she chooses to meet you, she will calculate the benefit meaning if she can make more staying in Jaco, then she'll likely stay in Jaco. She ain't coming to SJ because you have a good personality or because you are fun to be around. It is all about the money!

Too many nice girls in the world that have never sold themselves to be considering even for a second a relationship of any kind with a hooker.

Rainman3 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 6:20 am

D2864 wrote:

JBntex786 wrote:

as time passed I paid her less and less.

Did you make up for the less and less at the end of your trip? They are all about the money - you aren't special - so I wonder what the payoff is for her? Before she chooses to meet you, she will calculate the benefit meaning if she can make more staying in Jaco, then she'll likely stay in Jaco. She ain't coming to SJ because you have a good personality or because you are fun to be around. It is all about the money!

Too many nice girls in the world that have never sold themselves to be considering even for a second a relationship of any kind with a hooker.

D2864,

These are wise words, BUT over and over again we see guys who for whatever reason cannot seem to face the reality that P4P is solely for sex ! Somewhere along the way they begin to misinterpret sex for affection and once they are making that mistake things can rapidly snowball.

For whatever reason these guys are not able to formulate a relationship with a honorable Latina. They are either so comfortable and indoctrinated with P4P that they cannot progress beyond it.

I think there are many men who travel to the great destinations to monger but down deep they are searching for something more. There is a reason that many prefer GFE and TLNs. They like these because it helps fufill the deep inner need they have for a more stable/conventional novia type experience. When they receive this from a skilled provider fantasy and reality begin to blur..... Next thing you know you have some nice guy first time visitor to Latin America getting married to a PUTA. Why would someone ever consider a working girl for anything more than sexo is beyond my comprehension. Especially when you have places like Colombia and Peru where there is an abundance of sweet natured Latinas with strong family values that have not been corrupted by an overabundance of greengo travelers yet.

USE THE BIG HEAD AND NOT THE LITTLE ONE GENTLEMEN !

RAINMAN3

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

D2864 wrote:

JBntex786 wrote:

as time passed I paid her less and less.

Did you make up for the less and less at the end of your trip? They are all about the money - you aren't special - so I wonder what the payoff is for her? Before she chooses to meet you, she will calculate the benefit meaning if she can make more staying in Jaco, then she'll likely stay in Jaco. She ain't coming to SJ because you have a good personality or because you are fun to be around. It is all about the money!

Too many nice girls in the world that have never sold themselves to be considering even for a second a relationship of any kind with a hooker.

Well... after this post I think all the bases have been covered. Truer words have never been spoken, yet that is not to say a hooker doesn't enjoy the company of some clients. They do.

Berk.....

Berk2302 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:55 am **Posts:** 2171

Rainman3 wrote:

D2864 wrote:

JBntex786 wrote:

as time passed I paid her less and less.

Did you make up for the less and less at the end of your trip? They are all about the money - you aren't special - so I wonder what the payoff is for her? Before she chooses to meet you, she will calculate the benefit meaning if she can make more staying in Jaco, then she'll likely stay in Jaco. She ain't coming to SJ because you have a good personality or because you are fun to be around. It is all about the money!

Too many nice girls in the world that have never sold themselves to be considering even for a second a relationship of any kind with a hooker.

D2864,

These are wise words, BUT over and over again we see guys who for whatever reason cannot seem to face the reality that P4P is solely for sex ! Somewhere along the way they begin to misinterpret sex for affection and once they are making that mistake things can rapidly snowball.

For whatever reason these guys are not able to formulate a relationship with a honorable Latina. They are either so comfortable and indoctrinated with P4P that they cannot progress beyond it.

I think there are many men who travel to the great destinations to monger but down deep they are searching for something more. There is a reason that many prefer GFE and TLNs. They like these because it helps fufill the deep inner need they have for a more stable/conventional novia type experience. When they receive this from a skilled provider fantasy and reality begin to blur..... Next thing you know you have some nice guy first time visitor to Latin America getting married to a PUTA. Why would someone ever consider a working girl for anything more than sexo is beyond my comprehension. Especially when you have places like Colombia and Peru where there is an abundance of sweet natured Latinas with strong family values that have not been corrupted by an overabundance of greengo travelers yet.

USE THE BIG HEAD AND NOT THE LITTLE ONE GENTLEMEN !

RAINMAN3

I remember when you were a newbie on your very first trip to SJO Rainman. You have kept everything in perspective.

Berk.....

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 11:32 am

Rainman3 wrote:

D2864 wrote:

JBntex786 wrote:

as time passed I paid her less and less.

Did you make up for the less and less at the end of your trip? They are all about the money - you aren't special - so I wonder what the payoff is for her? Before she chooses to meet you, she will calculate the benefit meaning if she can make more staying in Jaco, then she'll likely stay in Jaco. She ain't coming to SJ because you have a good personality or because you are fun to be around. It is all about the money!

Too many nice girls in the world that have never sold themselves to be considering even for a second a relationship of any kind with a hooker.

D2864,

These are wise words, BUT over and over again we see guys who for whatever reason cannot seem to face the reality that P4P is solely for sex!

If this is the case for you, I am sorry to hear it. Yes, it can be all about sex and money but it ain't necessarily so.

For whatever reason these guys are not able to formulate a relationship with a honorable Latina.

Are you saying that all Latinas who P4p are dishonorable? I beg to differ. Yes, the majority are in it for what they can get. However, I have met some very sweet and honest providers that I would certainly classify as "honorable". I am suggesting that painting with such a broad brush oversimplifies the issue entirely.

I think there are many men who travel to the great destinations to monger but down deep they are searching for something more. There is a reason that many prefer GFE and TLNs. They like these because it helps fufill the deep inner need they have for a more stable/conventional novia type experience. When they receive this from a skilled provider fantasy and reality begin to blur..... Next thing you know you have some nice guy first time visitor to Latin America getting married to a PUTA. Why would someone ever consider a working girl for anything more than sexo is beyond my comprehension. Especially when you have places like Colombia and Peru where there is an abundance of sweet natured Latinas with strong family values that have not been corrupted by an overabundance of greengo travelers yet.

In some cases I am sure you are correct. However, there are plenty of girls who are sweet and honest who happen to provide P4p due to circumstances that we can't easily comprehend. Lumping all working girls into a big pile labeled "PUTA" shows a complete lack of respect.

Yes, some guys like a TLN and a GFE from a girl who won't go "ewwww" when we want to get blatantly sexual. I like sex and I don't like training "amateurs".

A lot of guys have had very limited success with women, P4p or in any other form. For them, getting involved with any woman is a poor gamble. May I suggest that adding tools to the toolbox might be more effective than condemning the worksite. JMHO!

Regardless of bolded statements to the contrary, it is not always all about the money. I spent several hours the other day comforting a PUTA who lost her heart and a chunk of her bank account to a gringo. If you witnessed her sobbing for hours and proclaiming that everything was her fault you might see things a little differently.

They are women who, for whatever reason, have come to sell themselves. Some are heartless thieves who prey on the weak. Others are sweet young women who are doing what they have to do to survive and feed their families. Often, they are pressured into the game by other family members who are dependent on them for basic necessities.

I would hope that we can set our own prejudice against women who have "wronged" us aside and view them as individuals, each as different as we are. Frankly, some of the lamentations here appear to reveal bitterness and resentment that is ours, not hers.

Can't we try to see them as people or must we treat them all as sperm receptacles not worthy of our respect? I understand that some guys need protection from women but they are not all "all about the money" and you may, in fact, be very special to her. We can protect the unwary without being so callous, in my humble opinion. :wink:

DrForm · **Joined:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:03 pm **Posts:** 1651

JBntex786 wrote:

Many thanks to all of you for your frank and very true advise. This was a new experience this trip - spending all my time with one gal. I guess I expected the other shoe to drop and was waiting and wondering when it would happen. I'll just enjoy the experience for what it was and look fwd to having a "good friend status" there in Jaco for future trips.

Amigo por favor take your time so that you don't get hurt like so many before you. The advice given has been good so read it and go about your gameplan with caution.Those chicas from Colombia have a zest for life so i can understand why you might take a chance on one.(nothing ventured-nothing gained)Buena Suerte!

Rainman3 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 1:01 pm

Pacifica,

I understand that there are exceptions to every rule. However the primary reason mongers go to HDR/KL/MPs etc. etc. is for sexo and the primary reason these women go there is for money. Yes both provider and shopper might sometimes gain some enjoyable experiences beyond just money and sex.......... is possible.

FYI, I was raised a southern genltleman by my family. In the military I strove to be an officer and gentleman at all times. I treat all women as ladies regardless of their chosen profession. This is why I was able to have great GFE experiences because of courtesy and respect, taking the time and effort to learn some Spanish. Courtesy will take you a long way !

With that being said though you need to understand that there are all kinds of good girls throughout C & S America who would never consider selling themselves. They work hard jobs for long hours with little pay and they live with their families and all pull together in order to survive. To most (MOST) HONORABLE Latinas selling their ass in P4P is just not an option to them. And IMHO once they go there a piece of their inner soul has been lost forever.

I have met some sweet chicas in the business but I would never ever consider getting seriously involved with them. Most of the guys who fall victim to this have for the most part never experienced the charms and graces of a sweet, HONORABLE latina. Again, just my dos colones....

Rainman3

Mucho Gusto · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 1:14 pm

Rainman3 wrote:

...To most (MOST) HONORABLE Latinas selling their ass in P4P is just not an option to them. And IMHO once they go there a piece of their inner soul has been lost forever.

Rainman,
I find this quote above to be a very interesting one, and I must agree.

Once a woman enters into the P4P arena, she has lost something forever. This does not mean that she's a bad person, or that she'll be in the game forever. Hell, she may only turn one trick in her life and then decide it's not for her. But regardless, once she mentally commits to taking money for sex, it changes something inside her permanently. And she will never forget that time in her life when she was selling her body to strangers - for the simple exchange of money.

Respectfully,
MG

Pacifica55 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 4:01 pm

Rainman, your points are well made and well taken.

MG - Do you think they are vastly different from a girl who will bed down with a man after a dinner date (but not unless you buy her dinner) or a girl who hooks up with a guy for any other ulterior motive beyond "love"? (Security, status, other material rewards.)

You may be entirely correct but I wonder if it is not a very fine line.

Rainman3 · **Posted:** Wed May 28, 2008 4:41 pm

Pacifica55 wrote:

Rainman, your points are well made and well taken.

MG - Do you think they are vastly different from a girl who will bed down with a man after a dinner date (but not unless you buy her dinner) or a girl who hooks up with a guy for any other ulterior motive beyond "love"? (Security, status, other material rewards.)

You may be entirely correct but I wonder if it is not a very fine line.

Pac,

This is the way that I once thought as well. And I readily agree in some cases it can be a very fine line indeed. Yet there is a difference in a woman who grants sexual favors in exchange for a pleasant time and nice dinner and drinks compared to a HDR working girl trying to make as much money as she can during her shift.

Pac, for the sake of scientific study I urge you to work hard on your Spanish and travel to places where you can better compare what I refer to as sweet & HONORABLE latinas to P4P chicas. Once you have done this I can promise you that you will be able to see that the difference is vast.
Even the most dulce P4P chicas are but a poor shadow of a REAL Latina.

Rainman3

www.CostaRicaTicas.com

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