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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:23 pm 
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...do you reach a point where you say: Why bother?

Ok sure - if you're new to CR by all means get out and see something besides the polluted streets, beggars, cheap food, late night transvestites and loose women of SJO. In that sense I'm a big get-out-of-the-gulch guy since it is a beautiful and interesting country but after numerous trips do you vets still travel around or find yourself preffering to stay close to the action and maximize your chica exposure? Can't decide if I've just gotten lazy, have reached a point others do, or am simply being efficient with my time and dinero by staying near to what I really enjoy and primarily came there for (which is what I like to think.) :)
Besides after you've seen the volcanos, museums, butterflies, monkeys, la playas, been deep sea fishing, picked coffee beans, zip-lined through the trees, etc. how many more times would you want to unless showing some newbie around or going with a group? My last 5 night trip I stayed so busy in SJO I don't feel like I missed anything by not hopping on a bus or taxi for several hours to go someplace hotter to stay in a worse hotel with fewer available women around, if any. Not sure what kept me so busy- must have been the walking tour, daily MP runs, dentista visit, haircut & manicure, lunch & dinners with CRT members, happy hrs., strip clubs, laughing at CRT guys, looking at chicas, laughing at chicas, calling chicas, flirting with chicas, negotiating with chicas, taking chicas to dinner, getting chicas drunk, feeling up chicas, rating other member's chicas, feeling up other member's chicas, banging chicas, talking about chicas, and shopping for souveniers and pharmacuticals while thinking about chicas that took up all of my time. Of course if I stayed longer than the usual 4-5 nights then escaping the chaos of the gulch becomes MUCH more desirable.

Do the "get out of the gulch" guys ever lay a guilt trip on you "get into the pu*sy and stay there" guys? :lol:

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Can't decide if I've just gotten lazy, have reached a point others do, or am simply being efficient with my time and dinero by staying near to what I really enjoy and primarily came there for (which is what I like to think.) Smile


Paco my friend I like you am here for the women :D

In 12 years I have Been there seen that

IMHO all the rain forests, beaches, volcanos, etc will still be there when my dick stops working.

So why see them now when every day 50 chicas in this country turn 18 yo and I can do what I really came here for :twisted:

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Paco Loco wrote:
looking at chicas, laughing at chicas, calling chicas, flirting with chicas, negotiating with chicas, taking chicas to dinner, getting chicas drunk, feeling up chicas, rating other member's chicas, feeling up other member's chicas, banging chicas, talking about chicas, and shopping for souveniers and pharmacuticals while thinking about chicas that took up all of my time. Of course if I stayed longer than the usual 4-5 nights then escaping the chaos of the gulch becomes MUCH more desirable.


Sooo, how bad is that? I say hit the beach again and again... One fishing trip is not enough... Take a chica with you, too... You can get a nice fun chica for $200 or so per day for a weekend trip and have them meet you for a $9 bus ride... You get sexo when and how you want it since they are living large, baby... 8) 8) 8)


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My primary reason for going to Costa Rica is the chicas. BUT...it was after the rainforests, the cloudforests, the ziplines, the monkeys, beaches, etc., etc. that I discovered the chica action in San Jose. :D After discovering the chicas, they became the only thing I was focused on. Now, the novelty of the chicas has somewhat worn off [which is prabably a good thing] and I find myself now enjoying day trips to the countryside with a friend; trying new restaurants, meeting nice ticos in the countryside, seeing the country, etc. It's a really nice way to fill the day 8) ....especially when you're there for a month at a time. Upon returning to the hotel after a day trip, it's nice to look forward to having a chica amiga stop by the hotel to round out the day. 8) I suppose what I'm trying to say, is that it's nice to a have a balance, and not be focused totally on one thing all the time. 8) I am happy that during my first trip to Costa Rica, I did do all the eco-tourist things and got to see a lot of what the country has to offer besides chicas.

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When I first saw the title "Get Out of the Gulch!..." I figured, "Oh great, just what we need, yet another thread about a truism that people either understand or they don't". I expected to be bored by it but clicked on it anyway.

Then is began by asking "...do you reach a point where you say: Why bother? and I thought "Absolutely, I know I do or at least sometimes"....

After all, getting up day after day, hitting one MP or another after a late breakfast when the girls are still "fresh", grabbing some lunch, then making the rounds of the MP's AGAIN in the afternoon, hitting the happy hour so I can chat with a bunch of guys who spent their day doing essentially the same thing, grabbing some dinner and then hitting the DR so I can chat with a bunch of uneducated hookers whose conversation essentially amounts to the same old "Where you stay, how long you here, cien por favor". Yes, that sometimes does get a little old.

Imagine my surprise when I read the rest of Paco's post. You see, anyone can describe any action (or series of actions) in any manner they want to either make it sound like the most exciting thing in the world or the most boring. I've always encouraged mongers to get out and explore BEYOND the Gulch. I've always felt that it is a crying shame if guys come to a country renowned for its natural beauty and spend all or most or their time in the grimy urban quarter we know as the Gulch. But I've never thought I was laying a guilt trip on anybody. I communicate my beliefs on the subject, hoping to expand the boundaries of those guys, but realize they either get it or they don't. I always leave it at that and if that qualifies as a guilt trip, then that is their issue not mine. After all, I have to wonder if those guys REALLY AND TRULY believe in their heart of hearts that there is nothing else in CR as worthwhile as the working girls of the Gulch, then why should they feel guilty at all. Personally, I think they're missing out but if the Gulch routine is what satisfies them so much and that works for them, then they can do what they want. For my part, I'll always want to explore new areas (and return to those places that truly astound me)

The rest of Paco's post truly turns all that on its head. Who is one laying a guilt trip on whom here? I'll readily admit that CR is a small country with only so much to see before you start repeating. The Central Valley is smaller still. After all, one can drive across the entire country in less than 12 hours if one doesn't make any stops. OTOH, one can WALK across the Gulch in less than 12 MINUTES. I'm sorry, to say that there is not enough to keep one's interest for very long in an entire country while at the same time saying there is enough in few city blocks to keep one occupied for a lifetime makes absolutely no sense to me.

At least Paco allows that newbies should check some of the rest of what CR has to offer in between whoring sessions. But then he as a seasoned veteran and has "seen and done it all" and is perfectly content to limit himself to the Gulch and its immediate environs. Good for him.

IMHE, talking to many monger veterans, I find many who CLAIM to have explored CR and have "seen enough of it". However, their idea of seeing it all and mine are two entirely different things. Their idea of seeing CR is anywhere they can reach as a day trip out of SJ, or anywhere they can go overnight as long as chicas are available.

I'd readily agree that there are only so many times one can go up Poas or Irazu unless one is leading some sort of group. There are other activities, such as w/w rafting, that have excellent repeat value. I'm not into deep sea fishing personally, but a lot of guys are and if you ask them I'm sure few woould tell you that going out to fish is something that they grow tired of (What does that bumper sticker say? "A bad day of fishing is better than a good day at work?). And, anyway, when it comes to simply enjoying wonderful scenery, why does it have to be limited to going there once, snapping a picture and leaving a few minutes after that. Doesn't that have repeat value too?

Getting back to these self-claimed CR explorers, their explorations outside the Gulch are RARELY as extreme as they would have others believe. I challenge anyone to come forward who has been to all of these places:
1) Dominical or some other lesser travelled beach besides MA, Jaco or the northern Guanacaste beaches
2) Puerto Viejo on the southern caribbean,
3) Rincon (or better yet Santa Rosa) in the NW,
4) the Osa Peninsula and Drake Bay,
5) Tortuguero (or Barra del Colorado),
6) Montezuma or Mal Pais and I must as well throw in
7) the Cano Negro wildlife refuge on the northern border with Nicaragua.
I won't even bother including the frosty heights of Mt. Chirripo or Isla Cocos way out in the Pacific. I seriously doubt very many of us (if anyone at all) has been to ALL of these places (despite a dozen or more trips to CR), or that more than a few has even been to more than half of these places. Have you, Paco? That would probably have meant having to forego pu*sy for one or more nights of your stay.

Even if you limit yourself to day trips, I once provided a list of over 50 activities one can do out of SJ (and outside the Gulch), everything from Turu Bari to Guayabo. How many of you have done all those things?

I can readily understand how after MANY MANY trips to CR one would grow tired or bored of the sights around the country IF they TRULY had explored all those sights. However, just from my own personally warped view and many but not so many trips to the Gulch as others, I can just as readily understand how THAT could grow old TOO. It hasn't quite gotten that far for me yet (although it is starting to), as I keep coming back. But I know of many guys, most no longer among us, who it has happened to and have moved on in various ways. Some were expats like MexPat, who lived there grew bored and disillusioned and moved back to the US. Others have moved on to other countries like TMan. Many are still there but only rarely frequent the Gulch anymore. Each of these case histories should give pause to those guys who blow into CR for a week or two at a time a few times a year and dream that the monger lifestyle by itself would sustain them if they ever moved to CR permanently. And there are also many other monger-tourists who still monger regularly but who grew bored or disillusioned with CR scene and have moved on to other countries.

So, in answer to Paco's misintended question - WHY BOTHER?, I reply why bother with ANY of it. With a dozen or more trips to ANY place the scene can grow old, whether it be the traditional sightseeing OR the local mongering scene. If that ever turns out to be the case, my solution would NOT be to turn myself inward and limit myself even more to an even smaller geographic area. MY solution would be a) to mix in MORE non-mongering activities to EXTEND the enjoyable lifespan of that location and b) when that no longer worked, to move on to newer and fresher countries altogether. After all, who ever said SJ was the be-all and end-all of mongering or that CR was the be-all and end-all of regular tourism. the world is a big place and can anybody just say NEXT.

But naturally as with most things this is a case of IMHO, YMMV, different strokes for different folks, etc etc. If the rest of you are content to spend out your days limiting yourselves to the "safe" familiarity of the Gulch, then I'm glad that works for you. It wouldn't for me.


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I can't believe no one has mentioned golfing. The Colombian chicas make perfect caddies!

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I can't believe no one has mentioned golfing. The Colombian chicas make perfect caddies!


Ya, but I've been told those darn girls also have a knack for stealing your balls... :twisted:
But seriously, having been a big proponent of the 'get out of the gulch' theory, gotta chime in. I too can understand the 'been there seen that' feelings having been in-country for eight full months now. BUT, I'm finding the more I see the more I realize all I haven't seen.
I find pleasure in the drives to different places. I take pleasure in seeing a dirty market in Nicaragua or walking through a local park to see the people. It's just all things that are new and different all the time. Maybe the same places but an ever-changing scene.
Or maybe it just doesn't take much to keep me amused :D

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Hell I hardly ever get out of the Del Rey!

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If all my vacations were to the gulch or living here if I spent much time in the gulch, I would end up with a gun in my mouth. I like sex, but don't see how so much time can be spent in that small area. Depressing to me.


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YO Paco:

Admit it !!! You only go to CR so you can pal around with L-Heat. You two unique individuals have similar mindsets......pu*sy. Unfortunately, the maids at the Presidente have the misfortune in cleaning up your rooms after check out. You're just sick, sick and sick.....did I mention sex craved?

It is true that a number of gents never leave the gulch. Their only idea of travel is pushing the elevator button up or down at the Del Rey or which ever hotel they are screwing in.

Personally, I try and stay out of the gulch these days....like about 1,500 miles. I'm just exhausted from all the chicas mauling me. I finally grew an ugly old beard several years ago to keep the chicas from hitting on me....so far, it seems to be working.

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Gaud what a mess :) , Paco’s mind has seriously been damaged by too many loose fish swimming in a tight barrel. Paco if you would only use a sling shot instead of a 44 Magnum well…….. :lol:

I feel like thirdworld if I lived there. One can only take so much of a good thing before it gets REAL old.

We all know the realities we live in whether we want to admit it or not. I see so many people trying to escape it in so many different ways. Generally it seems to me these escapes only compound the problems that people have with dealing with their realities they are trying to escape from. As long as guys have fun & don’t go off the deep end it is a lot of fun. Moderation & mixing it up with some form of balance has worked for me.

Driving all over CR is a must I feel but I have to admit I do get tired of the hot beaches & dirty places. I never get tired of meeting the natives. Most are very nice wholesome people; greetings with a smile are the norm instead of a grimace like I see here in the USA.

What has had a lot of value for me thru the years is touching on other peoples lives seeing what their life is all about. Helps me appreciate where I have been & what I have done with mine.

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Well I have to agree with this for sure!! One thing that I have never found in the USA that I have no trouble finding in CR or other Latin countries is the PERFECT DATE! This has always astounded me. It has always been easy to find a hot Tica very new to the scene that will give me a honeymoon moment without any hassles, headaches or bitchy demands. No phone calls, emails or RFMs (I don’t leave my info :wink: ). Nothing but a sweet appearing genuine moment & a great memory. That is a PERFECT DATE IMHO :P .

I believe after 20 plus years of the Pacoloco Syndrome I am finally cured. I have NO plans on ever returning to the gulch. Yes there are a few men that have survived the gulch without ever having sent any money to any sad case puta with all their entertaining colorful creative stories. Boy the great & funny memories of it all is a real chapter in my life. It is nice to move on to other interests while each has its special place in time.


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Been there / done that .... Don't even give it much thought since I don't phuck fish or monkeys.
The only reason I can think of to get away from SJ would be to go on a short trip to the beach or volcano with a novia. Poosie is just so much more important than everything else when I'm on vacation in CR.

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If you have not taken the time to get out of the gulch and enjoy the country your are missing a lot. Soo much can be done as day trips so you won't miss anything at night.

Sure, make the gulch your home base but get out and see what the country has to offer. Air fare to the Pacific coast is cheap and the beaches are great. The sunsets viewed from Tamarindo are fantastic. Well worth a day trip or better yet and overnighter. IMO the caribbean side is not that great.

No matter where you go the people are warm and friendly. At least I've found them that way.

Too many good golf courses, especially Playa Conchal. Chica caddies of course. Costly but really good.

Try one of the zip lines with a chica. Depending on the time of day, your attitude, crowds you may be able to let your "shaved balls" swing free. Make sure the harness is on correctly or your vacation may be ruined. The zip lines in Montezuma have some of the best scenery and the waterfalls are great in the spring, not to mention the natural pools at the base of the falls.

Tabacon is good but I prefer Bali or Eco Thermales; less people bettter atmosphere and the beer is colder. Arenal is also right there. Both are only a few hours by car from the gulch.

Many of the chicas have never been too far away from the gulch and are willing to go, The best of Both Worlds.

Been there, done that and want to do it all over again.

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