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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:08 am 
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Berk and EMB,

One final thought: Yes, you guys will get marginal (at best) new info. But you're not newbies. The sponges with tons to learn are newbies, not you guys. You know what you're doing. So no, you aren't going to learn much no matter what.

Your role in reading those reports is to identify the mistakes he's making and educate him. The benefit to you isn't finding chicas, it's identifying large scale trends and strategies. The benefit to you is Macro, to the newbies it's Macro and Micro.

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A trip report about how one had a great time with "G" and that "M" has a great personality is worthless except to live vicariously through the poster. We have NO problem in spelling out the names of every Zona Blue chica or some other MP chica, yet there is an aversion to mentioning the name of some HDR hooker. Anyone with half a brain knows that an experience with any chica is always a YMMV kind of thing so that argument holds no H2O with me. Consider a poster who has no trouble recommending some chica while sitting around the "war zone" with a bunch of other mongers or introducing his favorite to his buddies, yet to write a report using "code" is of what real value except to say "look at what I did". Let's be intellectually honest.

I am of the opinion that some don't post more specific info for the sole reason that they believe they have something "special" with a particular chica. While that may be true as to the overall experience we are still paying for "it". That "great" experience doesn't negate the fact that the chica one just spent 3 days with is a hooker who is looking for another client. It's what she does... a job... Disneyland for adults. I consider it a loss of perspective of what's really going on when I read about "D", "M" or whoever.

How many would raise hell if someone wrote a scam/ripoff report and said "J" is the devil incarnate and left it at that. Everyone... that's who.

The best lay I ever had, hands down, was with a Medellin chica named Paula. Also known as Mrs. Handy #2 or was that #3 for you old timers. I don't remember. I have written about her before. I point her out to those around me every trip I see her. I have introduced her to others. While I have the greatest respect for her... she's a hooker and looking for clients... new and old. That's usable info. That's keeping it ALL in perspective. :idea:

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Both sides of this arguement have made very valid comments and given good reasons for believing the way they do. I agree that for most, no chica is going to know "triple x" on the board is Joe Blow, the guy she did last week. But I also agree that for some of us, our handle here is well known by the chicas, especial those of us who live or spend a lot of time here. Many brothers call me by my handle when I am in the REY and for me it is no problem, but for some it is a problem when they report and use a chica's name..

I agree they are putas and as such should want the good exposure. But I also agree that if she did something special with a guy she happened to feel a connection with, but it is something she would not normally do, and she found out he had told 14000 other guys; she might be upset with him and refuse him the "special" next time. The most important one thing everyone here should always remember is "YOUR MILAGE MAY (NO! WILL) VARY). The problem is some guys just can not grasp that concept and seem to think "they are whores and as such should do and treat every client the same", when in fact they are human beings with emocions, feeling, desires, likes and dislikes, and needs; and as such are going to react differently to different men, actions, and desires.

I am, as many know, a very strong proponant of "share the knowledge". I personally would perfer to post the name of the chica I am writing about, and almost always do; but, there are some cases where it is not in the best interest of all involved to do so. I have written about chicas and used there name and later had a guy say to me "why did you lie about that chica; she wasn't worth a shit? Just the other day a good friend and long time CRT brother had a very bad experience with KIANY, a MP chica that atleast 25 other CRTers have had great experiences with. I have posted her picture, have written about her, and have used her name and the name of the MP where she works, and she knows my handle here. Am I sorry I used her name? NO! will I be in trouble with her or my friend? no ! She knows I am only trying to help her get more business and he knows "YMMV"

I say use the name if you feel comfortable doing so; do not use the name if you really believe there is a good reason not to. I say all of us need to GROW UP, and quit bickering over how someone else feels and how they handle a situation. Share as much knowledge as you feel comfortable with, accept the knowledge and experiences presented here for what it is worth to you, and learn from each others suscesses and failures. I have over the years, read about many a chica that I could not wait to meet and do; then after seeing her, had no interest and I am sure it has happened to most of us. There are several thousand 'working girls' in CR; why get hung up on who one particular chica is? ALWAYS REMEMBER THE 2 MOST IMPORTANT THINGS; NO MATHER WHO THE CHICA IS, YMMV AND NEXT.

The one thing I really do not understand that someone else commented on, is the difference in the way many guys look at giving out info and names of MP chicas virses DEL REY chicas--they are both working chicas providing a sexual experience, treating different clients differently, and having good days and bad days. Yet few have a problem using the name of a MP chica, while refusing to use the name of a REY chica! WHY? Do you realy believe there is more of a emocional connection, that is is going to be a loving relationship, or more with the REY chica? Do you really believe they are any different? Hell, a lot of the night time REY chicas work in the MPs in the day time.

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BB - The difference between MP girls and the "independents" is that the MP girls have a set time limit and a set price. Using their name is no big deal because everyone knows what they will pay and how long they will be in the room. Those are big variables in the independent world and the main reason, outside of actual "performance", that mileages vary, price and time. :D

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Pacifica55 wrote:
BB - The difference between MP girls and the "independents" is that the MP girls have a set time limit and a set price. Using their name is no big deal because everyone knows what they will pay and how long they will be in the room. Those are big variables in the independent world and the main reason, outside of actual "performance", that mileages vary, price and time. :D


I have to agree that you make a good point Pacifica, but I still agree with BB and think that they main difference, and the reason why there is more of a reluctance to disclose DR names, is because in the DR there is more of an element of seduction before the deal is struck and the deed is done.

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Taz wrote:
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BB - The difference between MP girls and the "independents" is that the MP girls have a set time limit and a set price. Using their name is no big deal because everyone knows what they will pay and how long they will be in the room. Those are big variables in the independent world and the main reason, outside of actual "performance", that mileages vary, price and time. :D


I have to agree that you make a good point Pacifica, but I still agree with BB and think that they main difference, and the reason why there is more of a reluctance to disclose DR names, is because in the DR there is more of an element of seduction before the deal is struck and the deed is done.

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..... and that leads the unsuspecting to believe something that will never be... that what's going on is REAL. I have said on more than one occasion that the "gulch" is not for everyone. For example.... if you have your hooker with you at the airport on your way out of town and the two of you are crying like a bambino... the gulch is probably not for you. Nevertheless, we are all hombres in grown up bodies. Some have the maturity to act like they have a head on their shoulders... others act as though they have their head up their culo. Que sera... sera. :D

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Pac55,

I have to disagree with your rationale on the difference.

1: Only a very small percentage of the guys in the REY have the desire nor ability to haggle with the chicas over price or time.-- He is hot for her; she knows it; he asks "how much?' she says "cien"; he says "lets go"!!and in 20 minutes, he has poped a nut and she is back on the line. :cry:. The very few that have the "game" are also the same ones that in the MP will negociate for "extras during the session, will go over the time and sneek out the back door, will get a phone # and see the MP chica outside the MP for a negociated price and amount of time.

2: Believe me YMMV is, if anything, greater with the MP chicas if you treat her as something more than a plucking machine. Sure Ticos walk in; look over the chicas; point to the chica they want, then point to the rooms, And off they go, often never saying a word to her. Many chicas have told me that frequently there is NO verbal interaction between them and the Tico at all. BUT with the gringo it is different. The gringo wants to talk.

3: Many of the MP chicas are much more concerned about their privacy than the REY chicas--a major reason many work in the MPs instead of the REY. They are much more dependant on repeat business and as a result will often give the "extras" to a guy they like and feel comfortable with to get him to come back.

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If you always post in a gentlemanly manner,you won't need to worry about a chica reading or hearing about what you posted. No one nEEDS to know where you stuck "what". A DR chica is there to make money.If,as Pac55 said,you use her name and description,she will get more business without creating a problem for yourself. What a paying Gringo does with a chica is HIS business. I,very often,will have a chica sit down with a group of CRT guys and introduce her and tell everyone that I really like this chica and recommend her. They can read between the lines and everyone is happy.


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Berk2302 wrote:
Taz wrote:
Pacifica55 wrote:
BB - The difference between MP girls and the "independents" is that the MP girls have a set time limit and a set price. Using their name is no big deal because everyone knows what they will pay and how long they will be in the room. Those are big variables in the independent world and the main reason, outside of actual "performance", that mileages vary, price and time. :D


I have to agree that you make a good point Pacifica, but I still agree with BB and think that they main difference, and the reason why there is more of a reluctance to disclose DR names, is because in the DR there is more of an element of seduction before the deal is struck and the deed is done.

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..... and that leads the unsuspecting to believe something that will never be... that what's going on is REAL. I have said on more than one occasion that the "gulch" is not for everyone. For example.... if you have your hooker with you at the airport on your way out of town and the two of you are crying like a bambino... the gulch is probably not for you. Nevertheless, we are all hombres in grown up bodies. Some have the maturity to act like they have a head on their shoulders... others act as though they have their head up their culo. Que sera... sera. :D

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Berk,

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..... and that leads the unsuspecting to believe something that will never be... that what's going on is REAL. I have said on more than one occasion that the "gulch" is not for everyone. For example.... if you have your hooker with you at the airport on your way out of town and the two of you are crying like a bambino... the gulch is probably not for you. Nevertheless, we are all hombres in grown up bodies. Some have the maturity to act like they have a head on their shoulders... others act as though they have their head up their culo. Que sera... sera. :D

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This may be true for the "unsuspecting". However, lumping all women one might meet in "the gulch" into one big bundle and saying it is "not real" is only true in the most general sense. The women and the scenarios are as different as the various mongers. What may be absolutely true for one guy may be completely untrue for the next. Trying to limit others according to one's own failings is pointless and just reveals the depth of one's own weakness, in my opinion.

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Pacifica55 wrote:
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..... and that leads the unsuspecting to believe something that will never be... that what's going on is REAL. I have said on more than one occasion that the "gulch" is not for everyone. For example.... if you have your hooker with you at the airport on your way out of town and the two of you are crying like a bambino... the gulch is probably not for you. Nevertheless, we are all hombres in grown up bodies. Some have the maturity to act like they have a head on their shoulders... others act as though they have their head up their culo. Que sera... sera. :D

Berk....


This may be true for the "unsuspecting". However, lumping all women one might meet in "the gulch" into one big bundle and saying it is "not real" is only true in the most general sense. The women and the scenarios are as different as the various mongers. What may be absolutely true for one guy may be completely untrue for the next. Trying to limit others according to one's own failings is pointless and just reveals the depth of one's own weakness, in my opinion.


The depth of my strength comes from knowing the difference between reality and fantasy in the P4P world. You can argue "till the cows come home", but it will not change the reality that what anyone experiences with a hooker is one huge break from reality.

Your argument is just another feeble attempt to rationalize what any reasonable, prudent person already knows... P4P is an adult world of pure fantasy. The collective wisdom of the vast majority have already testified to this time and time again.

For anyone to believe that he can have something "real" while he is paying for the playtime is nothing more than a fool who will be disappointed beyond measure when the music stops.

I have said on more than one occasion that folks are free to do whatever they wish so your comment, "Trying to limit others according to one's own failings is pointless and just reveals the depth of one's own weakness, in my opinion.", is just another one of your cheap shots that poorly attempts to disparage another who has a different point of view in a phoney attempt to build up your own sense of self-worth and esteem. Nothing new. We all expect it. You can't help yourself.

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B says it's all about the $ & doesn't hold H2O and is obviously having PMS, P may or may not have ED, L makes some good points regarding TCB in the HDR, S is just trolling CRT (as usual) spreading his joy like an STD, DrF knows several M's, E is bored with TRs, A kicked in his 2C, BB57 sez YMMV, VB thinks that A,B,C & M can read between the lines, I just want a PSE/GFE and where the hell is F when we need him? :) :D :o :lol: 8) :shock: :P :wink: :!: :twisted: :idea:

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B says it's all about the $ & doesn't hold H2O and is obviously having PMS, P may or may not have ED, L makes some good points regarding TCB in the HDR, S is just trolling CRT (as usual) spreading his joy like an STD, DrF knows several M's, E is bored with TRs, A kicked in his 2C, BB57 sez YMMV, VB thinks that A,B,C & M can read between the lines, I just want a PSE/GFE and where the hell is F when we need him? :) :D :o :lol: 8) :shock: :P :wink: :!: :twisted: :idea:


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