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Tman I have to agree. We all have to decide what is more important to us as to where we put our main emphasis. Personally I have always felt it was better to ONLY have real relationships with totally non P4P types leaving fantasies or what ever you felt was missing with the p4p types.

It is hard for one to fill all roles from my experience. New & different will always have its inherent value but the value of something deeper I feel can only come from someone that truly fits into your life in what you perceive is the proper way.

Santas Bros quote has a lot of truths to it to me.



I feel that if one has his life in very good order without any real problems why go looking for them when it is so affordable to just enjoy the easy fruit that is thrown at us. Almost all women I have met in my life are a mine field of problems with a hair trigger attached!! By the same token if you have something truly special with one & she has given you a lot in your life why blow that just to be with a new hottie that lives on cartoon mentality.

The problem I see in our wiring is complacency. Too many married men I know complain about the lack of enthusiasm from a wife that pays more attention to everything but him. This is why I feel many men stray somewhat where they can find that enthusiasm they have been missing. Many times it takes a BIG wakeup call like the wife realizing someone else might be competition to get it back in line. Sad but just the way it works much of the time.

The biggest problem I see with enthusiasm is it is very easy to fake for the short term which causes many men to be sucked into the trap that P4P has to offer. Time & communication sort this out. Being an older guy now & never been lonely the Santa Bros option looks most logical too me.

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Good post and statement as usual Zippy. I totally draw the line as you do as far as involvement...and especially now that I have almost 6 years with my Colombiana. I am more and more convinced they make the best longterm partners with just the right balance of sensuality, femininity, street smarts...and they know our bullshit through and through and dont throw it in our face. Maybe I just got a special one (first woman I ever lived 6 years with )...but I have a feeling there are many more out there similar and any guy who wants long term companionship should really consider Colombianas...WHO ARE IN COLOMBIA . Once you have the real thing relationally...it truly is more difficult to get excited about P4P. You become much pickier...and its about quality over quantity. And you are so content at home...you just dont "jones" for a pro like you did when you were single and/or divorced. Theres no big pressure to score...but you still can when you want to. The most threatening thing to me is when you meet a hot non-pro Latina who flirts or likes you. That will phuck you up faster than an hour MP or Delrey type tryst. But, as we age that happens less...even in LatAm. If a 20 something Latina comes on to me or flirts now...I now always assume she is P4P. So...life is really clear and uncomplicated living down here in a good domestic situation .

Lenny...hang in there...its time for NEXT...and yes...try out Colombia if you want a real relationship.

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Tman,

Can't say that I agree with your assessment of Colombianas as a whole. My experience was some what diferent. Yes, she was beautiful inside as well as out, sympatica, loving, kind, generous, sexi and sensual, the perfect esposa; that is till I got her to the states. Took about 30 seconds for her to become a 'gringa'; actually even worse. I will agree that Colombianas seem to have more street smarts, more drive, ambition, and if not hell bent to get out of Colombia, the probably will make a good partner. BUT, how many of us guys can REALLY read the mind of a woman,any woman??
If you have been living with one (Colombiana) for 6 years, even in Colombia, based on the ones I have known in Colombia, you are lucky and you found a special one.

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BangBang57 the way I see the deal that happened with your Colombiana is she wasn’t that crazy about you & you proved it when you brought her here to the USA (sorry but it just looks that way IMHO). Women from my experience if truly in love do not change much even when exposed to enticing elements (always exceptions). Cases like this for me show she was simply an opportunist & used you as one more step on her ladder of life.

When you were down “there” you had the value advantage but once she saw greener pastures she took that road. We are all players to some degree & I think we are all wise to not forget this. Let shit happen & it will….human nature will always be what it is. Controlling the environment we live in wisely sure has it’s rewards & much easier than trying to control human nature.

Tman age isn’t always such a bad thing. It makes it obvious what is real & what is not. That part I feel I accept well & actually I feel use it to my advantage. Cuts thru the what ifs & keeps it where it belongs as a simply wonderful p4p transaction where everyone happily gets what they need & moves on. No harm no foul & hopefully all enjoy what it has to offer. Sadly our nature we want to feel young & “born again” with many of us losing our sense of reality which almost always leads to that bumpy ride then the crash & burn in the end.

I rather leave the what if realities as living dreams & not even give the crash & burn a chance to even happen. I deal on a day to day bases with young hot gringas. I hear all the trials & tribulations of their “real” relationships with their hot young studs. Let me say I rather stay on the side lines & watch. I rather just be friends where things last much longer. This is what makes good P4P so worth while to have the tasty fruit without that outer layer of crap to clean off of it. Just remember after you pay please find the nearest exit no mater how beautiful they appear to be.

I know it is easier said than done! You will come across some that seem SO real & you just want to put them in your suitcase & bring them home. The real problem is these little spinners are not wind up dolls & need maintenance 24/7. That grind out ways the fun grind IMHO.

Really having a great significant other as your solid base does offer you a lot of strengths to make better overall decisions I feel but as always pros & cons to everything in this life.

Tman’s quote.
Tman this is a very important difference between a Latina & a gringa. We are both very involved in Latinas with many years of experience with both flavors. This IMHO is what makes Latinas much more acceptable for the long term over even a very good gringa. Gringas IMHO throw so much more in a mans face to the point of even messing up their own lives. They are use to men putting up with it & know they can get away with it. Latinas seem much better at accepting men for our dog nature & forgive this so called flaw as long as we are good to them & provide what is needed to the most important thing in a Latinas life...the inter family. They obviously have their limits too but are much more tolerant of short comings.

I also have to agree with you on how many really good Colombianas must be out there. An endless supply I would guess. I think most of us run into the out going ones in our travels & these IMHO don't make the better long term types. Just my opinion & nothing else !

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I admit I probably got lucky and have a special one. But...I have met many of her relatives and friends in Colombia...and I think they are all pretty genuine. I would say that taking a Latina back to USA is the worst idea. I did that once with my Mexican bride. We were fine in Mexico, but as soon as we arrived stateside, things went downhill in a hurry. Amazing coincidence that she moved out 2 years almost to the day that we arrived USA to live...just the time she needed to keep her green card with or without me...and qualify for citizenship. While we had some good times and I have no regrets...one has to wonder what the real agenda was on her end. Love? Dont think so.

This time around...from the beginning I made it very clear I never intend to live in the USA again...and that has NEVER been questioned. We travel together back in the USA and my family loves her and vice versa...but NEVER has she suggested we move there. Believe it or not, she has been the one suggesting we consider living and doing biz back in Colombia! You find one like that...it should convince you of their sincerity .

Love and happiness to all...however you find/define it.

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It sounds like you're saying that one of the reasons you prefer latinas over gringas is because they will let you cheat on them as long as you provide for them. Not all latinas will accept that.

My 26 year old Chica lover/friend is going to set me up with her " beautifil " 42 year old aunt. I'm almost 58.


How did you manage to support yourself and her family while living down here. You must have a big pension or be independently wealthy.

Wayne

Ooops.

Wayne said

Assuming you were asking about MY situation, the short answer is...we work TOGETHER down here and have a very mutually supportive situation. The key/summary to this possibility is...you have to find a mature Latina from a similar class/income bracket you are used to. Or at least educated and from an educated family. Thats the main ingredient missing from most of the horror stories we read on this board. If the chica is TOTALLY dependent on you to live and make ends meet...well, that will be the nature and limit of your relationship. Most of the hookers are from very poor family or circumstances...and have nothing in common with most of us accept the mutual service relationship these bars and MPs are based on. People find it hard to believe my posts sometimes I think...but honest to God...my Colombiana limits her RFP to between $20-50 to go buy OUR groceries. She always comes back with receipts and offers me the change which I usually dont accept. Her family has never asked her or me for a dime in 6 years. Instead, they are always offering to help us in anything we might want to do in Colombia. When we go out to eat...they always pick up their fare share of the tab. Why do they do this? Because...THEY ARE EDUCATED AND UPPER SCALE PEOPLE. That in my opinion is the type of extended family that makes our relationship that much more secure and enjoyable. You wont get that normally with your run of the mill Delrey girl or MP lover. Sorry...as sweet and cuddley as they might seem...for longevity...we need someone more mature and from similar background levels to make a longterm match more palatable or likely.

I hope some of you friends out there are getting the message...without thinking I am boasting or something. These are just the facts as I have experienced them, and the lucky connection that I made after a few years of semi heavy mongering ...

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Tman, I could not agree more. To expand upon what you are saying, several friends (Tico and Gringo) told me after the break with Jx they had been wanting to introduce me to some of their business friends but knew they would think less of me because they would be able to tell Jx was poorly educated and would think less of me. Even though these people really liked her, they were reluctant to make the introductions because of the extensive Tico predjudice.

The Tico predjudice towards Nicas seems to be greater than Southern Rednecks towards Blacks. It also seems to exhibit itself when black guys from the US or Canada hit on light skinned Tica putas with big butts. Many are just unwilling to go with them and openly say so. The US black guys just move on but the Canadian guys are shocked and want to talk about it.

I don't mean to take this thread in a new direction, but it certainly has some impact upon us gringos as we decide to homestead the chicas in Costa Rica. When you attempt to homestead rather than timeshare chicas in CR these issues matter more than we gringos believe until we have experienced it first hand.

I think this may be why Vegas Bob, Irish Drifter, Bilko, Roberto and other long-term CR living gringos try to warn us DumbAssNewbieGringos about homesteading chicas down here. I think it's really out of the goodness of their hearts. They probably remember their broken heart pain from going through what I just did. Guys, had I not had your sage advice, I would have been no match for what I encountered and Jx was a saint compared to what I have heard about other chicas. I thank you for helpng me recognize it when it hit me too. Without your advice, it could have been a very different story. I could have wallowed in the BS for months trying to figure out what to do. Please keep it up even if the Newbies never say thank you.

Now it's time for the April 19th Happy Hour at SL and Bang Bang's MP tour before the SL party.

PS, I'm still waiting for one of you long-term guys to PM me and give me Roccio's tele number. I really need a massage and BJ for when I arrive in CR in April. I'll miss that most until I find a replacement.

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There are many that will show you the door (just like gringas).I've seen many look the other way but not all.

Tman, your post was very informative. I think that fiinding an upper class, older, well educated latina who had a real profession could lead to a wonderful relationship for the serious minded man. A 40 year old well kept latina could run circles around her gringa competition for still being womanly, and for appreciating the special male in er life.

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Hello Lenny, Is this the same Jessica that we were talking about at our February meeting? if so, all I can say if my heart goes out to ya. I've been there before and probably will be again. I now have a sweet tooth for the Nica's. My Nica's name is also Jessica but we both know by the pics that she is younger (20) and barely speaks any english except 1 Hour only and Cein dollars. LOL I'll be back to CR the end of May for another round of Nica love. I beleive you just can't trust any woman unless you are there 24/7. Long distance relationships never work.

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Guys, I'm phucked.

A friend in Florida introduced me to a gringa 10 years younger than me. She was convinced she was a hottie - and said so. I enjoyed being able to talk with her - she was a smart lady and understood my jokes and comments that we Boomers toss around so easily. She seemed like she had been a high maintenance chick all her life.

However, I just could not muster the interest to want to see her again. As I told my friend, "At some point she's going to want me to Phuck her and I'm just not going to be interested."

During the conversation, she said that she doesn't cook, but that with the other things she does well, I won't mind.!? I was a good boy and bit my tounge. What I wanted to say is, "Lady, a woman your age better be bringing mucho wealth or good groceries that I can't prepare for myself because I'm not interested in the pu*sy that you are offerring." I thought it, but I said only...."is that so?" This chick is 10 years younger than me and I had not a bit of sexual interest in her and was dodging her attempts to get me to come home with her.

I'm phucked. But I'll be back in CR soon chasing chicas.

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Lenny

Wow do I hear you....I have several elderly clients I have dealt with for over 20 years, most if not all know of my wife passing almost 5 years ago and again, most if not all always ask why is a young, successful nice guy like you single after this much time.

I can usually sluff it off as I do not want to get married again, I mention have a lady I see in the US (phuck buddy) but some persist, oh my grandaughter, niece, whatever is single and such a nice person. I politely decline and look forward to my next trip south to the land of latinas....

Look forward to seeing you again in a few weeks and chase some chicas together.....