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Jx was not quite as bad as the chicas you describe. She in fact was new to hooking and got out after 3 months or so. That timeline I can verify. Due to her beauty, good heart and sexual talents, guys tended to keep her for the remainder of their stay once they found her. This may have allowed her to be less hardcore than other girls, but her attraction to the fun side of hooking and partying with gringos who are on vacation will likely draw her back to that life.

This side of the CR girls is not much different among the hookers than it is among young women everywhere. Most young women fantasize about meeting a charming rich guy who they can travel around the World with and only have to worry about their nails and their hair.

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Chi_trekker wrote:
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...Lenny, I can think of at least 3 or 4 hot women in my gym, that I believe to be single. They are in their 40's and look 30ish. They are classy and have jobs. This is what you should be targetting. Shit, if I wasn't attached, I'd probably be all over them.
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I keep hearing this over and over. There seems to be a nice supply of single, attactive, educated, employed women in Latin America that have no problem dating older gringos and are not looking for a meal ticket or someone to take them to America. They must be fairly plentiful in Latin America, the mother (Colombian) of one of my best friend's in the U.S. wants me to meet her niece who is a Dentist or Pharmacist in Bogata (I don't remember which) in her late 30's. She is attractive, with a successful business and NO desire to leave her country or quit her business so some guy can "take care of her".

My question is why aren't gringos going after these types more often? Sure the 20 year old is smoking hot, but what the hell does a 55-60 year old college educated, well traveled, working professional gringo talk about with a 20 year old prostitute who dropped out of school in the 8th grade, watches only cartoons, and is barely literate?


You hit the nail on the head. I'm in my mid 30's. I don't want anything to do with a gum snapping, illiterate, lazy and immature prostitute in her 20's. I can't see how anyone older than me can see them any differently. You give them a present and they act like spoiled brats. You can go a MILE out of your way, and they aren't grateful. They could care less about you, its all about them. Phuck that. Rent them and then return 'em.


It seems so patently obvious, but we could go on repeating this stuff till we're blue in the face and I don't think it would matter. Rather than taking the sensible route and putting in the time and effort to find educated, responsible Latinas with class, smarts, and good jobs, lovelorn mongers will keep taking the easy way out and hooking up with hookers.

Therefore, how about a little "reverse psychology"? To those mongers out there seeking true love, here's what I propose. If you've been paying attention to the board for a while, you've probably heard of a place called "Zona Blue" where a girl who goes by the name of "Pamela" works. By all accounts, she's perky, cheerful, ambitious, hard-working and very persuasive when it comes to matters of money. She no doubt does very well financially by Costa Rican standards. Moreover, she is said to be very fond of the act of making love, and would no doubt insure her man is satiated and well-satisfied sexually.

I suggest you rush on over there and snatch up this most eligible young lady before someone else beats you to it...

P.S. - to my amigo Lenny - you're right - Jx was nowhere near as bad as the typical hooker stereotype described previously. I'm just pissed you took her off the market for so long... :wink:

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That description fits Pamela to a T. And, yes, she loves her profession.

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For me, girls that I Phuck casually (both pros and non pros) and girls that I date are in two COMPLETELY different catagories. I have different requirements for both. This doesn't mean I don't like the putas at the del rey, or that I think I am better than them. Several are very good friends with me. However, they don't even come close to my minimum requirements for dating/relationships.

Conversely, some woman in her late 30's/early 40's, while attractive, may not be cute enough as the 20 year olds to become one of my favoritas in my hooker rotation. But with her intelligence, caring and maturity, she may make an excellent novia. In a country like CR, where a man could have his cake and eat it too, by having a steady novia and maybe hitting a few massage places on the side, I don't see the upside to dating hookers (to be fair, I also see the downside in a "good girl" dating a monger like me).


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Counte Dante wrote:
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...Lenny, I can think of at least 3 or 4 hot women in my gym, that I believe to be single. They are in their 40's and look 30ish. They are classy and have jobs. This is what you should be targetting. Shit, if I wasn't attached, I'd probably be all over them.
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I keep hearing this over and over. There seems to be a nice supply of single, attactive, educated, employed women in Latin America that have no problem dating older gringos and are not looking for a meal ticket or someone to take them to America. They must be fairly plentiful in Latin America, the mother (Colombian) of one of my best friend's in the U.S. wants me to meet her niece who is a Dentist or Pharmacist in Bogata (I don't remember which) in her late 30's. She is attractive, with a successful business and NO desire to leave her country or quit her business so some guy can "take care of her".

My question is why aren't gringos going after these types more often? Sure the 20 year old is smoking hot, but what the hell does a 55-60 year old college educated, well traveled, working professional gringo talk about with a 20 year old prostitute who dropped out of school in the 8th grade, watches only cartoons, and is barely literate?



This is a stigma sort of thing. There is a ton of late 20's to late 30's ladies out there in Latin America. All single moms, some former pros, some not. All are more mature mentally than a gringa, but so is my poodle. The men of these countries for the most part have little interest in dating a woman with someone elses K*D. So they often turn to gringos for a possible option for a companion.Former pro or never a pro, these are the BEST women to hook up with in any Latin country. They understand thier role in a relationship, the "wild side" is long over, and they pride themselves on being able to keep you happy. Which they will, in a big way.


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My question is why aren't gringos going after these types more often? Sure the 20 year old is smoking hot, but what the hell does a 55-60 year old college educated, well traveled, working professional gringo talk about with a 20 year old prostitute who dropped out of school in the 8th grade, watches only cartoons, and is barely literate?


The last time I had an intelligent conversation with a 20 year old chica was when I was 20.


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My initial fantasy was that I could help her become educated and if she did the work of getting an education, a wonderful love story could be told. I now realize that I was making many compromises because of her allure and I did not wake up to that until she committed the unpardonable act.

None-the-less, I was already feeling the imense weight of how do I get her educated to be a capable US citizen. Her baby was no problem. After only one month in Montessori kindergarten, he was delightedly beginning to converse in English. She on the other hand would have required extensive education just to pass the GED. Fortunately such education is available in Florida with the ESOL - English as Second Language program.

I agree with you Luck4unme. I actually told her on numerous occasions that I had to go to Sportsman's tonight for some adult conversation. She was great to love and make love to, but it was difficult navigating life relying upon her to even do the basic stuff of making sure the ICE, AMNET and RACSA bills were paid on time. I really thought she was much smarter than this when we started out together.

It's because of all this that I felt relief when I learned what she had done. It freed me of my obligations that were feeling quite heavy.

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Lennydo wrote:
I really thought she was much smarter than this when we started out together...


A few buddies of mine have said the EXACT same thing about their novias in the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica. Mostly because of the language barrier, deeper conversations are limited and it is hard to know how intelligent (I am not talking about simply being educated) the girl was. As they learned more Spanish or the girl learned more English (usually the former), it began to dawn on my buddies that their novias just were not that bright. This certainly doesn't apply to all putas, I just thought it was funny that you said the same thing as them, almost word for word.


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However educated or not the Dominicanas or ticas are, you will never hear in CR or the Carribean some of the wisdom I have heard from beautiful Mexicanas in TJ. Here is a bit of it:

1) If you pray before sex you will not need a condom.No need for one since the prayer protects you.
2) You should not use a computer because you could get a "computer virus" that could keep you home sick and miss a day of work.
3) I ate spicy food for dinner once, and it made me sick. Therefore I should quit eating dinner.
4) A job is always better than school because the school does not ever pay you.
5) If I drink alot of alcohol in the club all night, I then go home and go to bed.
When I wake up in the afternoon I am sick. Therefore I should sleep less.

And you thought Ticas could be dumb...........


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GetRhythm wrote:
Chi_trekker wrote:
Counte Dante wrote:
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...Lenny, I can think of at least 3 or 4 hot women in my gym, that I believe to be single. They are in their 40's and look 30ish. They are classy and have jobs. This is what you should be targetting. Shit, if I wasn't attached, I'd probably be all over them.
....


I keep hearing this over and over. There seems to be a nice supply of single, attactive, educated, employed women in Latin America that have no problem dating older gringos and are not looking for a meal ticket or someone to take them to America. They must be fairly plentiful in Latin America, the mother (Colombian) of one of my best friend's in the U.S. wants me to meet her niece who is a Dentist or Pharmacist in Bogata (I don't remember which) in her late 30's. She is attractive, with a successful business and NO desire to leave her country or quit her business so some guy can "take care of her".

My question is why aren't gringos going after these types more often? Sure the 20 year old is smoking hot, but what the hell does a 55-60 year old college educated, well traveled, working professional gringo talk about with a 20 year old prostitute who dropped out of school in the 8th grade, watches only cartoons, and is barely literate?


You hit the nail on the head. I'm in my mid 30's. I don't want anything to do with a gum snapping, illiterate, lazy and immature prostitute in her 20's. I can't see how anyone older than me can see them any differently. You give them a present and they act like spoiled brats. You can go a MILE out of your way, and they aren't grateful. They could care less about you, its all about them. Phuck that. Rent them and then return 'em.


It seems so patently obvious, but we could go on repeating this stuff till we're blue in the face and I don't think it would matter. Rather than taking the sensible route and putting in the time and effort to find educated, responsible Latinas with class, smarts, and good jobs, lovelorn mongers will keep taking the easy way out and hooking up with hookers.

Therefore, how about a little "reverse psychology"? To those mongers out there seeking true love, here's what I propose. If you've been paying attention to the board for a while, you've probably heard of a place called "Zona Blue" where a girl who goes by the name of "Pamela" works. By all accounts, she's perky, cheerful, ambitious, hard-working and very persuasive when it comes to matters of money. She no doubt does very well financially by Costa Rican standards. Moreover, she is said to be very fond of the act of making love, and would no doubt insure her man is satiated and well-satisfied sexually.

I suggest you rush on over there and snatch up this most eligible young lady before someone else beats you to it...

P.S. - to my amigo Lenny - you're right - Jx was nowhere near as bad as the typical hooker stereotype described previously. I'm just pissed you took her off the market for so long... :wink:


This all goes back to the theory of the forbidden fruit. Once they eat it, they are changed forever. I, honestly, believe this. Once a chica sells her pu*sy, and sees how easy it is to live an easy life, it becomes a permanent attraction. Over time, they sort of lose a sense of themselves. They begin viewing themselves as objects and obviously their customers as objects too. Eventually, they lose their looks, and reality hits them in the face. This is about the time they usually retire in their 30's to 40's.

I believe we also sort of eat the forbidden fruit. However, men are genetically wired differently. Our entire life is devoted to chasing pu*sy and spreading our genes. This is 10's of thousands of years of evolution in the works. For us, paying for pu*sy is just an easy way to satisfy our basic instincts.

Women, on the other hand, are wired to nurture the family and stick by the best mate possible mate they can find. Thus, I believe the act of prostitution, for women, is more "un-natural" for women, than for men. This is why I believe once they are tipped in that direction, there is no turning back. It takes certain mind-set.

Also, the stories of woe and misery are all just a bunch of bullshit. For example, the story that I just need to do this to pay my bills, school, uniforms, is all just a bunch of bunk. There are TONs of job in CR that require hard work, with moderate, but acceptable pay by local standards. In fact, lets say that the population of CR is split 50/50 male to female. This would mean there are about 2 million women in CR. Lets just guess that there are about 20,000 prositutes. This number is probably high. The math then says that about 1% of all chicas in CR are hookers. Yet, as ignorant gringos tourists, we believe this is our only choice in CR.

Disclaimer.... this is all just my opinion, but find an example where this is just plain wrong.

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Mr Vegas, surely you jest? Are these real?


100% real. If you went down to TJ with me, I could introduce you to most of the girls that said those things. You have to keep in mind Mexico is probably the least educated country in Latin America. Few of the long term bar girls in TJ finished primeria- elementary school. Thier parents want them working as soon as possible. Quite a difference from CR where everyone knows how to use a computer. In TJ if you took a survey of maybe 150 bar girls in a bar on any given night, 2 or 3 would have an email. 5 or 6 would be able to type at all. The rest would say they don't know how to use one, and the country girls from places like Chiapas and Sonora would tell you the computer was evil or could hurt your eyes. Mexico is a nice country with a great group of people. But thanks to Catholicism in the poorer areas, they are not the brightest.


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My initial fantasy was that I could help her become educated and if she did the work of getting an education, a wonderful love story could be told.


I saw this fantasy unfolding again with a buddy here in Panama wednesday night. He (60+) and his 29yr old Colombiana went to the movies with me and my 40+ Colombiana who was never p4p. It is always hazardous to mix mine with these former service girls...but in this case they have known each other for a few months through my friends 8 months trying to "domesticate/educate" his chica..."who makes him very happy". Yet, he jokingly told me he puts marks up on a wall in his condo for every time she packs her bags to "leave him"...apparently 2+ times per week on average. He seems to thrive on drama.

We went to see "Charlie Wilsons War". As we came out of the theatre, she points at the poster of "Horton movie" (latest reincarnation of Dumbo the elephant cartoon?) and says "that would have been more interesting to see". Both my lady and I had a difficult time sitting through dinner with no intelligent conversation with our friends. I felt I was chaparoning tow teenagers. There is just nothing in common in our real lives. That to me underlines the difference between dating pros/hos versus regular Latinas. There is a HUGE difference, and I have never seen a successful conversion personally as much as I would root for it to happen.

Thats just the way it is generally...

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Tman & Chi-Trekker,

I totally agree. When I was able to begin having typical conversations with her after she learned some English I began to see the emptiness in her head. Had I been with her all of the time in CR instead of spending much of my time in the US, perhaps I would have noticed it sooner. Maybe, maybe not.

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It's hard to notice that a chica's saying stupid stuff when her mouth's full. :)

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Lenny,

been there done that. Married one for 3 years. Dating one now. But the lack of knowledge brings me back to a truism. They are dumb and we elevate them. I find I do that all the time. It is not nice to think you are mentally superior but in this case we are.

I will probably marry again. Stupid but ah the forbidden fruit!!!!


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