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 Post subject: Article - San Jose
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:51 pm 
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I hate when San Jose is mentioned in a negative article. Oh well.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 4721.story

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:00 pm 
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No doubt. A co-worker of mine sent me the first article on this on Tues. and I just shrugged it off but today he sent the update and it really fokin pissed me off. With this guy I don't even try to defend that I don't do sub 18 because he's an ahole German (biggest mongers of the world). So I just avoid any conversation at all but today had to email him back to stop sending me this crap at work.

I totally stopped telling him about when I go down to CR. The first time it was like "That's the phucking capital of the world" even before I started mongering there and he said it loud enough so others could hear. Now anytime something on CR pops up he harasses me.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:31 pm 
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Only have one thing to say about this article, lock him up and throw away the key, my opinion is the same of any hobbyist traveling and looking for girls who are und***ge...

It is a shame a few bad apples like the a-hole in the article attempt to ruin honest guys from having some fun with LEGAL age women.


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While nobody supports this sick shit, it is hard to believe the FBI can get away with this. We could never run a sting of this nature during my tenure as a police officer. Violates 8 statutes of the state I patrolled in, as well as quite a few federal law enforcement guidlines. But this is the FBI, so they probably not even aware of the law they were enforcing, much less the regulatory codes to enforce it. Leave it to the US Government to make the Keystone cops look like professionals.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:29 pm 
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I feel sorry for the poor bastard. Moreover, I think this was entrapment.

"Entrapment" is defined in "The Law Encyclopedia as:

The act of inducing a person to commit a crime so that a criminal charge will be brought against him.


Under the facts, it seems he was entraped, which would call for his acquittal. He needs to hire Dershowitz.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:39 pm 
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Panther wrote:
I feel sorry for the poor bastard. Moreover, I think this was entrapment.

"Entrapment" is defined in "The Law Encyclopedia as:

The act of inducing a person to commit a crime so that a criminal charge will be brought against him.




That is a very simplistic definition. There are others such as

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entrapment
n. in criminal law, the act of law enforcement officers or government agents inducing or encouraging a person to commit a crime when the potential criminal expresses a desire not to go ahead. The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the "criminal." Entrapment, if proved, is a defense to a criminal prosecution. The accused often claims entrapment in so-called "stings" in which undercover agents buy or sell narcotics, prostitutes' services or arrange to purchase goods believed to be stolen. The factual question is: Would Johnny Begood have purchased the drugs if not pressed by the narc?


Based on what has been reported not what was entered in the record at trial it appears:

He initiated the contact

He specified a sexual escort

He asked for very young

He paid for the tour

He came to the airport to board the plane

If all that is true he is a dirt bag who should be in jail

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I feel sorry for the guy, and hope he eventually beats the rap. As I recall the piece, someone pressured him to pick a very young person. Let's face it, were it not for the FBI ad, and the person pressuring him, he probably would have never sought a Ch*ld, much less than actually seducing a Ch*ld.


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Panther wrote:
I feel sorry for the guy, and hope he eventually beats the rap. As I recall the piece, someone pressured him to pick a very young person. Let's face it, were it not for the FBI ad, and the person pressuring him, he probably would have never sought a Ch*ld, much less than actually seducing a Ch*ld.


I again caution that all we have is news paper reports not trial transcripts to rely on. Based on this report, if factual, it is hard to see how he was 'steered" to a young person.

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Richard Love, a retired Fort Lauderdale police detective who posed as the agency's owner, testified at trial that Muentes needed no prodding to request a "very young" escort.

In their first conversation, Love offered Muentes two types of ******* - for sightseeing or sex. After Muentes indicated his interest in a prostitute, Love asked him to choose from a range from 14 to 27 years old.

"Let's go young . . . very young," Muentes said.

Love suggested a 14- to 16-year-old and Muentes agreed. When Muentes asked about the legality of sex with a minor, Love said it was all illegal.
According to testimony at trial, adult prostitution is legal in Costa Rica, but transactions cannot involve a third party, such as an agency or pimp.


I think I read in other accounts that voice recordings of that conversation was introduced as evidence. We can come to our own decision on his guilt ot innonce but the fact is the jury, the only opinions that matter, did not buy his attorney's entrapment defense.

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I agree with you on this guy.. The infomation presented indicates he knew he was going to see a minor and even if he was 'entraped' to choose a minor, no way was he 'intraped' to buy a plane ticket to make the trip; a trip which he knew was to "see' a minor for sex which is not only legally wrong, it is against all that is just and is just plain sick.

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When Muentes asked about the legality of sex with a minor, Love said it was all illegal...


Here's where I have a problem...Muentes did not get a direct answer...Love deliberately answered in a vague and confusing way and steered the conversation AWAY from the "und***ge" focus to discussing the illegality of pimping in CR. He also put P4P with 14-17 year olds in the same baket as the 18+ to deliberately confuse the mark and trick him into making the wrong choice.

What the agent should have done was explain the LAW and answer directly...it is illegal for an American to have sex with anyone under 18, anywhere in the world. Then, if Muentes still went for it...he should be prosecuted.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:25 am 
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The suspect suggested going very young. This could mean, say, age 18. It was the agent who suggested going after someone as young as 14. The case against the suspect is problematic.


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