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How well do you speak Spanish?
Poll ended at Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:56 am
I speak almost no Spanish and carry a phrase book/translator at all times 13%  13%  [ 11 ]
I speak enough Spanish to get by at restaurants, in taxis and with the chicas. 40%  40%  [ 34 ]
I am conversational in Spanish, but I get lost if the locals speak very rapidly or use slang. 33%  33%  [ 28 ]
I consider myself to be fluent in Spanish. 12%  12%  [ 10 ]
I am a native speaker of Spanish. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 84
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:11 am 
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When I was in HS andd college many years ago criada was the term. But,I think that it was primarily in use in Spain and not as much in Latin America. Maid/camarera is used much more here. Can some native speaker tell me if this is correct or not?

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El Viejo, Not a native speaker, but yes, camarera es corecto y criada es a bad Ch*ld or a maid (in the past was used to refer to dark skinned maids) and is no longer considered socially acceptable to use. Criada is still used in some parts of Mexico by the less educated. Also in some area where there is a large asian population, maids use to be refered to as 'china'; again unacceptable today

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:48 pm 
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El Ciego wrote:
Tom,

When I say "speak Spanish," that obviously includes comprehension.

Perhaps I should have said it as "understands Spanish," but I think the colloquial meaning should be clear.... how well do you communicate in Spanish.

Another thing that affects my Spanish, and I expect would be true with others, is the matter of context and contextual cues. For instance, face-to-face communication is far easier for most of us than talking on the telephone. Why? Because the telephone conversation lacks the visual cues found in face-to-face conversation. Also, if you're discussing about which you have knowledge (i.e. sex, food) it is often easier to comprehend what is being said than if you're discussing about which you have little knowledge.

Actually, when I took the State Department/Foreign Service Oral Proficiency Interview (OPI) - <insert joke here> I tested at the lowest sub-level of the highest class i.e. Superior Lvl. 1. This would in fact classify me under #4 (fluent non-native), but I'm tentative about my Spanish sometimes.




Cdrtom wrote:
Guys,

It's been my experience that spanish proficiency is a two pronged issue. I have enough grammar and vocabulary to make myself understood in most instances; the real challenge is comprehension of native speakers' speech.

I studied German for 2 years, and can tell you that, contrary to popular belief, Spanish is more difficult than German (IMHO).

Latinos speak faster than Europeans, and have more of a tendency to slur the ends of their words. If I watch a German war movie, then a Spanish telenova, I can comprehend the German better, not because I know more German, but because the Germans articulate their words better.

I use Rosetta Stone, and am considering buying Rocket Spanish; and try to devote 4 or 5 hours a week to improvingmy Spanish, but I am convinced that the only way most people will truly become fluent is to speak the language regularly with a fluent Spanish speaker.

Just my 2 Cents worth.

CdrTom



My 18 yr. old daughter speaks, reads & writes: Spanish English, French,Japanese, reads & writes Kongi & is right now learning German on her own. She says Spanish is the hardest one of them all, due to multiple tenses & gender words.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:58 pm 
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Wow Rainman,
The last time I hung out with you, the only Spanish you knew was "por favor", and you even said that with your god-awful Louisianna accent! Now you are cruising the shopping malls of Medellin, seducing store clerks. I know that Colombia is your thing now, but I just booked 6 nights at the SL starting March 13th, how about joining me? I could really use you back as my wingman.


A,

Yes my Spanish has improved dramatically in less than a years time. I would love to see you in CR but I can't spare the time away at the moment. My novia has family in Cali and we might meet up there next trip. I really love my Paisita and Im trying real hard to be a good boy. Maybe after Im like you and have been M for a while than I will feel the need to sneak off. I hope you have a great time, give me a shout when you get clse to my stomping grounds.
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