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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:26 pm 
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If you go back with her and rationalize your way out of this I will personally kick your ass.... :P :P :lol:


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Phoenix Rising wrote:
If you go back with her and rationalize your way out of this I will personally kick your ass.... :P :P :lol:


yeah right. like we would ever go there. :lol:


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And some people wonder why I "preach" what I do. Thanks for sharing LaDiablo. Your experience is nothing but "positive" for everyone else out there.

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berk, i have never met you but must admit your rep is kinda out there. and have read your posts. used to think you were just an angry guy but your perspective on the us against them part is spot on.
they laugh at us.
they mock us.
if you don't believe it start picking up some spanish and listen to them talking on the phones and with each other.
yesterday i was hanging out at SL with some girls talking about what happened and one took a call from a guy in chicago. if your reading this dude she was playing with my dick and rolling her eyes as she spoke to you.
wake up
i guess when they know you know it just all out there to see. they show us how lame we are


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no flaming only relating, i think we all have been there..now i have been trying to end a year and half relation with girl there now..very hard thing to do.. the only way possible is to take a haitis from CR and see different palces i decided it will take about 6 to mix it up so only once a year return to Cr. good luck on your next


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LaDiablo wrote:
berk, i have never met you but must admit your rep is kinda out there. and have read your posts. used to think you were just an angry guy but your perspective on the us against them part is spot on.
they laugh at us.
they mock us.
if you don't believe it start picking up some spanish and listen to them talking on the phones and with each other.
yesterday i was hanging out at SL with some girls talking about what happened and one took a call from a guy in chicago. if your reading this dude she was playing with my dick and rolling her eyes as she spoke to you.
wake up
i guess when they know you know it just all out there to see. they show us how lame we are


LaDiablo....... I've never been "screwed" like you describe. Got hooked on one Colombiana on trip 3... well as hooked as one can get with 3 romps in the hay. Still the best lay in all of CR. She was intoxicating. Wasn't angry... just woke up to the game after romp #3, I guess you could say, when I realized CR is Disneyworld for adults. She did me ONE BIG FAVOR when I realized it was all a business transaction.

I add to that my close friendship with 3 Colombianas who live together (we don't get nekked)... DR working chicas... I have written about them before and what they add to my understanding of this "game" we all play. Great friends, but we don't mix "business" with friendship. They would give me the shirt off their backs. They play the "suck the gringo dry of cash if at all possible" because they believe it's their job.... and only a job. In their hearts they are good women and attempt to be good mothers as they want to provide all they can to their ninos. Gringos have helped to lead them down this path of "take all you can get at any cost" because they are so easy. This is general SOP for most working chicas. Do some chicas actually "fall" for their clients... yes, they do.

That's why I "preach" what I do. You could say, I guess, I have "inside" information.

All that being said.... if one wants to play the "romance" game with a working girl... have at it. Just be informed as to what is going on in most cases... not all... just about 99%. :D :D :D

Berk.....

P.S. We get laid in the beginning because we have cash in our pockets. That's what I mean when I say "it's all about the money". The quality of the experience is a combination of many different factors that have absolutely nothing to do with money such as respect, personality etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:16 am 
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You know its a hard thing, between us wanting to have someone without the bull that we get from the american ladies, and the ladies working a job to pretend to love someone for the hour. It would be hard for anyone to do. she on one hand has to sell herself to be able to eat and have a home. then where does she put her true feelings for a person, and after a while, can she ever pull those feelings out and trust that they are real? she is caught up in her own game.



This lady he is talking about might really love him. but can she let go of her lifestyle and money to do that. on the other hand there is no way that he can ever trust her, and why should he? there are tons of ladies out here that are not coming from that type of work, that are not pro's at making a man believe that they love you.

if you have to work on a person, or try to change them then whats the point? just find one that fits. its like trying to take a chevy truck and make it ford, you can change the name plate but it's still a chevy under the hood.

dont' go looking for love in a ho house, two out of 300 might be good girls, so why not try where you have better odds?

us guys do the same thing, we start out just trying to find a hot body for the hour, then maybe a return trip or two because you like the service, then somewhere between us just wanting to use it and abuse it and move on to the next one, you start to think and care about her and her well being, then we start to sell ourselfs on the idea that they really care about us and us them. we just can't allow ourselfs to cross that line, when we do then thats when we start allowing things to go on that we know we shouldn't.

these ladies really understand just how powerful that little area is and really know how to make it work for them. once you return for the same lady once or twice they know they have you hooked, that's why the special time spent with them the 2nd or 3rd time gets so much better and better because she is getting hotter off the fact that she owns your buttt. she has the power over you and she can pull at your heart strings and get whatever you have.

They also understand that one way to really set that hook deep in your bottom lip is to refuse the money afterwards. wow... here your thinking she really likes you but your still paying for it, which keeps you from falling all the way for her, and then she removes that gate that is holding you back by not taking money for it? giving it to you for free? then you really feel she loves you because she is giving it to you for free. all the while she is blowing on the coals getting ready to skin you and cook you. setting you up for the big money, not just a 100.00. if she can get you to fall in love with her and make you believe she is with you, there is nothing you won't do for her and this she knows all to well.

I went to cali once and took a lady back to my hotel. had a great time, paid her and she left. about a week later I went back to the place and didn't see antyhing I liked and then she came out of the back so I took her again. this time after I paid her, I asked her if she wanted something to eat and we took off to a place and had dinner, I just wanted someone to talk to and she spoke good english. during our chat she asked what I was doing in cali and if I was single I said yes and that I would like to meet a good lady and get married.

so then she asked would I consider her? well in my mind I said no, but I couldn't say that because it would of course open a huge box of worms and kill the mood, and I liked talking with her. so I took the high ground and said sure I would, I understand why you work where you do, its not by choice, which I do believe is true. jobs paying what she make are unheard of there. well I didn't understand what I had really started. I could see a change in her right then and there, in her face. when we were done eating we headed out the door and she took me by the hand and we grabbed a cab, I asked her could I drop her somewhere? and she told the cab driver my apt.

I just got the door locked and turned around and she was on me like a wild beast, she slide down and started this wonderful bbbj, which she didn't do before, only covered and just enough to get the old boy going, she spent time with the twins and then moved down to brown eye, all this she never did before. she rode the living shiz out of me and each time when I was about to let the boys go, she would stop to keep me from doing so.

she got up top of me reverse cowgirl and put her azz high in the air giving me a great view of everything, while she played with herself, she looked back at me and asked do you like my azzz? I remember saying honey does the pope wear a funny hat?? lol which was lost on her and I quickly said yes yes yes, she reach back and slide me in her azzz and finished me up there. she then held me for a little while rubbing all over me and she jumped up and went to the head, and she came right back with a hot towel to clean me up.. ahhh service with a smile.

this went on for a few weeks and I started to feel like a shit. knowing that I wasn't going to marry this lady. but at the same time the loving was out of this world and free. but I couldn't stand to think what I was doing to her, well one night I came in around 2 am and she was sitting in the waiting area for me. we went up and once again she was ready before the door was locked, and I had to stop her and tell her that I was seeing someone I had met and I had feelings for her, trying to let her down easy, well that just kinda of fired her up to protect her man from being taken by another and she went after me, I did try to slow her down but no way was that going to happen and it was even wilder and hotter then before.

I hadn't had sexxx 4 times in the same night without v in years and the 4th time I had nothing left and it wasn't going down and she wasn't stopping, I faked cumming and flopped over and that worked until she rubbed up agaisnt it and said o my your ready for me that fast and she went to work on me again..

I know I still felt bad about it all so I dodged her for a week by calling my guy at the front desk to ask was she there, yep just like a lap dog going on 4 hours now. sometimes I would out wait her, sometimes I had to rent a room at another place. that got old after a few times, so I went to my apt late and there she was, she came up and said I guess you have been with your other lady friend all week, yes I said, do you love her? I said yes I'm afraid I do, I can't help it I'm sorry, she said without missing a beat thats fine, could you pay me what you own me and I'll go unless you want me tonight!!! I was taken back and then said what do I own you? she pulled out a book and flipped the pages and said 1,500.00, 1,600.00 if you want me tonight, all biz, no tears nothing, all biz. and had it all logged in as to how many times and even the surcharge for the azzz that time. I K*D you NOT!!! well I said sure I can do that, of course I don't have that kind of cash here with me, but I'll give you what I have and pay you the rest tommorrow. well she said thats fine and slipped off her top and went to the bathroom, I didn't say I wanted her that night, but I wasn't about to stop her, since I felt good that I told the truth and she had kept a TAB!!.

the sex that night was not as wild as the first time it was more in a loving way, then the 2nd time it was wild and then the 3rd was loving again, with her trying to talk me into picking her over this other make believe lady. I think back on it and how easy I could have fallen for her and maybe she would have made a good wife, but the bill in the end makes me snap back to see all that time she was still on the clock. all the loving was free if she was going to get the big ride, if not pay the bill.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:16 am 
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They also understand that one way to really set that hook deep in your bottom lip is to refuse the money afterwards. wow... here your thinking she really likes you but your still paying for it, which keeps you from falling all the way for her, and then she removes that gate that is holding you back by not taking money for it? giving it to you for free? then you really feel she loves you because she is giving it to you for free. all the while she is blowing on the coals getting ready to skin you and cook you. setting you up for the big money, not just a 100.00. if she can get you to fall in love with her and make you believe she is with you, there is nothing you won't do for her and this she knows all to well.



Great post Mark and generally agree with you, but...

Don't you think this is GENERAL female MO, and not necessarily P4P?

Here's our options:

A. Deal with women who are dependent on us for financial support and security and are willing to Phuck the shit out of us in order to get it. (Macho society)

B. Deal with women who are our equal in every way with the ability to earn the same of amount of money, hence, not dependent on us for money or security who will Phuck us if and when they feel like it. Then have have the option to discard us as they wish. (Good ole USA)

Better for us as men to chose A, but we need to know how to navigate and handle their myriad games. And the P4P gals are the wisest of them all. It's war. Learn, engage, enjoy, but protect yourself.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:43 am 
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802Mark wrote:
...I know I still felt bad about it all so I dodged her for a week by calling my guy at the front desk to ask was she there, yep just like a lap dog going on 4 hours now. sometimes I would out wait her, sometimes I had to rent a room at another place. that got old after a few times, so I went to my apt late and there she was, she came up and said I guess you have been with your other lady friend all week, yes I said, do you love her? I said yes I'm afraid I do, I can't help it I'm sorry, she said without missing a beat thats fine, could you pay me what you own me and I'll go unless you want me tonight!!! I was taken back and then said what do I own you? she pulled out a book and flipped the pages and said 1,500.00, 1,600.00 if you want me tonight, all biz, no tears nothing, all biz. and had it all logged in as to how many times and even the surcharge for the azzz that time. I K*D you NOT!!!... I think back on it and how easy I could have fallen for her and maybe she would have made a good wife, but the bill in the end makes me snap back to see all that time she was still on the clock. all the loving was free if she was going to get the big ride, if not pay the bill.


Hell of a story 802. I didn't see the ending coming! Everyone... and I mean everyone should read it and heed the lesson which is what I have been saying for some time. With P4P it starts with the money and it ends with the money. What happens in between varies, but "it's always about the money". It's just the nature of the game when one is "buying love" for an hour. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:10 am 
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802 the meter was always running(what a taxi driver she was).Good story that should serve as a reminder of why the chicas are working(to make money)!I don't see this type of drama in Mexico(i'm there 60-70 days per year).


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wow. 802. did i need to read that. thanks for sharing your story.


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An interesting story but....he took her to his hotel then a week later she tells the taxi driver to take them to his apartment? OK, maybe semantics.

Let's explore a little further:
A Cali puta who "spoke good english"? OK, maybe although doubtful.
But said puta waits hours for him night after night? Didn't she have a job at some casa?
She charged him cien?
This went on for "weeks" yet the total was only $1500?
She kept a ledger?
AND she quoted him the total in DOLLARS?

OK, maybe all of these things are possible, but why do I doubt this story?
Must be the skeptic in me.

Berk, I'm surprised you didn't question any of this since you are our resident cynic. :lol:


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