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TimBones if you and I were hot chicas we could clean up and be DelRey millionairesses. :lol:


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Tim - Who are you talking about here ?? It obviously isn't me. If you read my earlier E-Mails , especially the last, you would know that I'm not into it to that extent. We're talking hundreds perhaps $1500 over year and a half here not tens of thousands. I'm fairly well off so for me the $1500 is pocket change. And as I said twice already there is no eye opening surprise here. I just like the company of a young Tica when I go to the beach. How she gossips and what she does when I'm not around isn't my concern.

As far as my ruining the cheapskate reputation you and your buddies want to maintain , it's irrelevant. Everyone knows Gringos have lots of bucks and ( except for you guys) like to spend. That attracts them to places like DR.


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WayneH3412,
What is your take on Honduras? Do you think it offers something CR doesn't, or is CR clearly "better"? Is Honduras too dangerous nowadays?


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Wayne,
Welcome to CRT.

After you've been on the board awhile you'll begin to see the same opinions from the same people time and time again. Don't take it personally.

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Tim - Who are you talking about here ?? It obviously isn't me. If you read my earlier E-Mails , especially the last, you would know that I'm not into it to that extent. We're talking hundreds perhaps $1500 over year and a half here not tens of thousands. I'm fairly well off so for me the $1500 is pocket change. And as I said twice already there is no eye opening surprise here. I just like the company of a young Tica when I go to the beach. How she gossips and what she does when I'm not around isn't my concern.

As far as my ruining the cheapskate reputation you and your buddies want to maintain , it's irrelevant. Everyone knows Gringos have lots of bucks and ( except for you guys) like to spend. That attracts them to places like DR.


Wayne,

This isn't about being cheap, it's about paying the correct price and getting the maximum value for your dollar. Don't know your experience with Costa Rica, but it is obvious, to those of us who play the game on a regular basis, that you are overpaying. You posted here to elicit some feedback and you got it. It may not have been pleasant, but you asked for it. You are like a guy walking into a dealership and buying a new car for sticker price, thinking he's getting a great deal. You are paying the full retail price. We are just saying that you don't have to.

Also, I think we are expressing our sensitivity to the effect guys like you have on the overall "chica" market. Guys like you who pay full asking price - no questions asked - embolden the chicas to ask for more the next time around. So in this sense it is selfish of you not to at least engage in some sort of negotiation... Strike a balance. Pay them enough that they are content, yet still fearful that if they ask too much, you may go elsewhere. And understand that there are an unlimited amount of choices for company in this country.

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Wayne do what you want with your money you earned it.... dont be hen pecked by the masses on the BB, you omitted the fact that if you averaged out your cost per pop it might be less than 40 dollars per pop. Even though you sent a little over a hundred a month, if you average out the per pop it may be 40 dollars a pop...not bad value and you had "companionship" or illusion of it.... doesnt really matter. Certainly cheaper than a gringa girlfriend and definitely cheaper and safer than marriage.

I have talked and drank beers with some of these cheapskates, and in general they are pretty cool laid back retired gentlemen.

My observations over the years is that these deal finders generally pull 6-7.5s for 50-70 and they do get good deals and decent service..... but when the deal finders pull or 9 or 10 I have found for the most part they come back afterwards bitching that she was bad service and wanted to leave early, or was flipping channels with the remote during the deed.

Why? because they felt they were underpaid just like if you told your accountant you were going to pay him half his rate this year because thats all you have, he will grimace and smile at you and take it.. if he has the time and do a half asssed job for you because he resents the chop.

Now there are exceptions to this rule maybe GR or Pac can turn a 9 or 10 into a good service provider on the cheap but that is not common it is rather the exception to the rule.

Bottom line everyone has their part to play in the CR puta economics, the weekend tourist will pay more because he has a limited time frame and does not know all the girls that well, big deal. And the local retirees will get a better deal because they have thorough research on the market...good for them. And count Dante probably does benefit from the WU senders...I believe it good for him. Looks like every customer is satisfied. I appreciate/understand all the locals bitching about overpaying because the extra 10-20 price change probably adds up if you are in CR everyday but the henpecking on wayne is uncalled for.


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Why? because they felt they were underpaid just like if you told your accountant you were going to pay him half his rate this year because thats all you have, he will grimace and smile at you and take it.. if he has the time and do a half asssed job for you because he resents the chop.



Interesting...possible. Likely?

What about Honduras? Waynerd?


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Why? because they felt they were underpaid just like if you told your accountant you were going to pay him half his rate this year because thats all you have, he will grimace and smile at you and take it.. if he has the time and do a half asssed job for you because he resents the chop.



Interesting...possible. Likely?
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What about Honduras? Waynerd?

According to this report from WIT there is an unusually high AIDS prevalence there..... 7 times the Risk.

"ASIA
In Asia, national HIV prevalence is highest in South-East Asia, with wide variation in epidemic trends between different countries. While the epidemics in Cambodia, Myanmar and Thailand all show declines in HIV prevalence, those in Indonesia (especially in the Papua province) and Viet Nam are growing. Although the proportion of people living with HIV in India is lower than previously estimated, its epidemic continues to affect large numbers of people. Overall in Asia, an estimated 4.9 million [3.7 million–6.7 million] people were living with HIV in 2007, including the 440 000 [210,000–1.0 million] people who became newly infected in the past year. Approximately 300,000 [250,000–470,000] died from AIDS-related illnesses in 2007.

The number of new annual HIV infections in Thailand continues to decline, although the decline in HIV prevalence has been slowing in recent years as more people are receiving anti-retroviral therapy.

The patterns of HIV transmission in Thailand have changed over time, with the virus spreading increasingly to persons considered to be at lower risk. More than four in 10 (43%) new infections in 2005 were among women, the majority of whom probably acquired HIV from husbands or partners who had been infected either during unsafe paid sex or through injecting drug use (WHO, 2007).

Despite the overall achievements in reversing the HIV epidemic in Thailand, prevalence among injecting drug users has remained high over the past 15 years, ranging between 30% and 50% (WHO, 2007). Similarly, recent studies show increasing HIV prevalence among men who have sex with men (e.g. in Bangkok from 17% in 2003 to 28% in 2005) (van Griensven, 2006).

LATIN AMERICA
The HIV epidemics in Latin America remain generally stable, and HIV transmission continues to occur among populations at higher risk of exposure, including sex workers and men who have sex with men. The estimated number of new HIV infections in Latin America in 2007 was 100,000 [47,000–220,000], bringing to 1.6 million [1.4 million–1.9 million] the total number of people living with HIV in this region. An estimated 58,000 [49,000–91,000] people died of AIDS in the past year.

Unprotected sex between men is an important factor in the epidemics of Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador and Peru in South America, as well as in several Central American countries, including El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua and Panama.

About one third of all people living with HIV in Latin America reside in Brazil. In 2005, an estimated 620 000 [370,000–1 million] people were living with HIV. Although initially concentrated primarily among men who have sex with men, the epidemic subsequently spread to injecting drug users and eventually into the general population, with increasing numbers of women becoming infected (Dourado et al., 2007).

It is estimated that a large proportion of infections among women can be attributed to the behavior of their male sexual partners (Silva & Barone, 2006). However, unprotected sex between men remains an important factor, and is estimated to account for about half of all HIV infections that are sexually transmitted in Brazil.

HIV prevalence among injecting drug users in Brazil has declined in some cities as a result of harm-reduction programs, changing from injecting to inhaling drugs, and mortality among drug users (UNAIDS & WHO, 2006).

In Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru, HIV infections continue to be concentrated among men who have sex with men (Martínez, Elea & Chiu, 2006; Ministerio de Salud y Deportes, ONUSIDA, 2007a,b).

National HIV prevalence in Peru is estimated to be low and concentrated in specific populations. Prevalence among men who have sex with men remained between 18% and 22% in various studies conducted between 1996 and 2002 (Sanchez et al., 2007; Ministerio de Salud del Peru, 2006).

Against the background of widespread homophobia, high HIV prevalence has been found among men who have sex with men in several Central American countries, including Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua and Panama. Compared with HIV prevalence in the adult general population, research in 2002 suggested that infection levels among men who have sex with men were seven times higher in Honduras, 10 times higher in Guatemala and Panama, 22 times higher in El Salvador and 38 times higher in Nicaragua (Soto et al., 2007).

High levels of HIV prevalence have also been found among female sex workers in Honduras (10%), Guatemala (4%) and El Salvador (3%), but low prevalence of 0.2% in Nicaragua and Panama (Soto et al., 2007)

NORTH AMERICA, WESTERN AND CENTRAL EUROPE
In these regions, the total number of people living with HIV is increasing. This increase is due mainly to the life-prolonging effects of anti-retroviral therapy and an increase in the number of new HIV diagnoses in Western Europe since 2002, combined with a relatively stable number of new HIV infections each year in North America. Overall, approximately 2.1 million [1.1 million–3.0 million] people in North America, Western and Central Europe were living with HIV in 2007, including the 78 000 [19 000–86 000] who acquired HIV in the past year. In the context of widespread access to effective antiretroviral treatment, comparatively few people died of AIDS—32,000 [20,000–84,000] in 2007.

The United States of America is one of the countries with the largest number of HIV infections in the world. Based on data from the 33 states and four dependent territories with long-term, confidential name-based HIV reporting, men accounted for most of the HIV or AIDS diagnoses (74%) among adults and adolescents in the country in 2005. More than half of all newly diagnosed HIV infections (53%) in 2005 were among men who have sex with men. Persons exposed to HIV through heterosexual intercourse with a non-regular partner accounted for just under one third (32%) of newly diagnosed HIV infections and AIDS cases, while about 18% occurred among injecting drug users (US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2007a).

Racial and ethnic minorities continue to be disproportionately affected by the HIV epidemic in the United States. Although African Americans represent about 13% of the population (US Census Bureau, 2006) they accounted for 48% of new HIV or AIDS diagnoses in 2005.

AIDS was the fourth leading cause of death among African Americans aged 25–44 years in the United States in 2004 (Anderson, Mosher & Chandra, 2006; US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2006). Hispanics, who comprise about 14% of the population, accounted for 18% of new diagnoses (US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2007b). ""


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thanks.

7 times the risk was for a specific group...men having sex with men.

However the info you posted did say that among women sex workers the rate was 10%, much higher than Guat, El Sal, Nica, Panama....CR not mentioned.

Some scary HIV/AIDS stats overall there I will admit, but you know what they say: 55% of all statistics are wrong. You're gay, but are ya happy?


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My observations over the years is that these deal finders generally pull 6-7.5s for 50-70 and they do get good deals and decent service..... but when the deal finders pull or 9 or 10 I have found for the most part they come back afterwards bitching that she was bad service and wanted to leave early, or was flipping channels with the remote during the deed.

Why? because they felt they were underpaid just like if you told your accountant you were going to pay him half his rate this year because thats all you have, he will grimace and smile at you and take it.. if he has the time and do a half asssed job for you because he resents the chop


I understand your logic, but we are dealing with WOMEN here and normal logic doesnt apply. Maybe you can provide some concrete examples to support what you have written.

IMHO...generally, if a chica has agreed on a price you will get pretty much whatever she intends to give you...no more for your deep pockets, no less for your ability to negotiate. She will flip those channels, answer her cellphone in the middle of a BJ regardless of the agreed upon price. You may get more attention from them if the word on the chica-network is that you are a big spender, but don not confuse this with better service. I never went with a chica and wished I had given her more money because I felt she was punishing me with bare-bones service just for not overpaying. The only difference in service will be found if you commit the fatal blunder of paying up front.

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Johnarizona wrote:
thanks.

7 times the risk was for a specific group...men having sex with men.

However the info you posted did say that among women sex workers the rate was 10%, much higher than Guat, El Sal, Nica, Panama....CR not mentioned.

Some scary HIV/AIDS stats overall there I will admit, but you know what they say: 55% of all statistics are wrong. You're gay, but are ya happy?

But John I assumed you were going for the men isnt that what you PMd me earlier :lol:


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Talk about a thread hijacking.... geez. :?

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I never went with a chica and wished I had given her more money because I felt she was punishing me with bare-bones service just for not overpaying.


Again...I say "interesting", you know in sort of a Artie Johnson kinda way. Perhaps a thread of its own.

HUNTER, do I get any chica discount if you keep saying Im gay? If I do get this Hondu HIV shit (actual medical term); can I stop working and go to CR fulltime? Get back to me with the numbers...crunch away.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:10 pm 
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How she gossips and what she does when I'm not around isn't my concern.

As far as my ruining the cheapskate reputation you and your buddies want to maintain , it's irrelevant. Everyone knows Gringos have lots of bucks and ( except for you guys) like to spend. That attracts them to places like DR.


Nothing wrong with that!

Lots of guys come though here will illusions of being in a relationship. The word Novia gets thrown around a lot and a lot of guys get confused.

Sounds to me like you have a pretty good grip on the situation. I was just trying to help. Hey and don't get me wrong, I hang out with these chicas too. I have one that I suppose I should call my Novia. I am just not ready to give her the title just yet.

I also agree on the cheapskate reputation. I NEVER mention CRT to chicas for that exact same reason. Lots other good reasons to be a part of it, helping you with chicas is not one of them.


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