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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:22 am 
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Like I said before, it is all about the math for me. I simply do not see how a single mom, that is not bi-lingual, that does not have a college education, and does not have computer skills can raise their Ch*ldren above a poverty level existence.

Where there's a will, there's a way.
I'd say that within this forum we can find the prove that quite a few of those devoted moms who were given the opportunity to find a man to take care of them and maybe getting out of poverty (even out of the country), and they just blew it. They could take advantage of that possibility every time they go with a client, but they don't. Lack of brain?
Wouldn't you call that a way out of poverty?
Guys, don't forget that we all have what we deserve. And gringos, don't feel bad for what you have, you worked hard for it, and you have given enough to this world. Just imagine what this world would be without the USA.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:20 am 
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Where there's a will, there's a way.
I'd say that within this forum we can find the prove that quite a few of those devoted moms who were given the opportunity to find a man to take care of them and maybe getting out of poverty (even out of the country), and they just blew it. They could take advantage of that possibility every time they go with a client, but they don't. Lack of brain?
Wouldn't you call that a way out of poverty?
Guys, don't forget that we all have what we deserve. And gringos, don't feel bad for what you have, you worked hard for it, and you have given enough to this world. Just imagine what this world would be without the USA.


Excellent post! You beat me to it, as I was reading zippy's post, this is what I too was thinking.


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One that knows this culture well should realize that women are basically left out of many circles. Many have been brought up to please their man & not raised to be independent like Gringas.


Very little evidence of this in the gulch so the putas must have missed most of their up bringing. If they were all about pleasing a man, they'd be more successful hooking a gringo for the long term. It usually isn't the gringo that fucks things up most of the time (from what I've witnessed on here if those stories are true) when dating these honeys.

Putas are very independent, so independent that they usually Phuck up a good thing just the same as gringas would. As soon as a puta doesn't get her way in a relationship, she is heading to the HDR. And, if it isn't an issue of getting her way, she is out the door just to test and Phuck with a gringo's head which usually results in her maintaining her status as a puta in the HDR.

So maybe their problem really is that they are too independent and ....
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Lack of brain?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:16 am 
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I think that's a good point. They value their independence very highly. And why not? It's also something most "boyfriends" try to undermine, subtly or not so subtly, consciously or unconsciously. I submit that most guys with money do want to control their hooker girlfriend, whether they admit it or not. The girls are independent, and they like it that way - it's one of the few real perks of the job.


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Like I said before, it is all about the math for me. I simply do not see how a single mom, that is not bi-lingual, that does not have a college education, and does not have computer skills can raise their Ch*ldren above a poverty level existence.


Sorry, can't give you a definitive equation that will add up to the fact that a young nubile women isn't immediately driven into prostitution because she has a couple of K*ds and can't join the middle class. I think that if she lives with her parents, as many single parents do, then that alleviates the cost of paying rent. But as I think I said before, often Tica hookers are also estranged from their family or as is the case with at least one famous Zona Blue Girl we have alll probably banged, all the women in the family are engaged in the flesh trade. :o

One point that I recall is that a women I dated in Panama City for about a year while I was assigned there lived in a rented apartment, she had a son with a hearing disorder and she worked as a teller in a bank. The apartment was far from plush, but not austere, comfortable and clean. She kept her son well clothed, put food on the table and still managed to take a vacation once a year or so.

Now you can argue that the standard of living is higher in Panama, but it is closer to Costa Rica than it is to the United States. So I would have to say based on anecdotal evidence is possible for a young women without a college education, with a Ch*ld not to have to prostitute herself to make a leaving and be part of the (lower) middle class in Panama.


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No one would get an argument about the lack of brains in general with people from me. I see major forms of stupidity abound on both sides of the puta vs monger game but this is just my opinion. Truth be known I see the Chicas scoring more TD's (not STDs :D ) than the mongers :shock: ! Many guys are flying off the seat of their pants to spend valuable money they can ill afford to lose on no less a puta at that. Then they try to blame the Chica because they try to make something unreal real. Smart hey?

One thing we all know for sure is the Chicas are always on the receiving end :D . Always positive cash flow it seems :wink: . They must have at least some form of intelligence to pull this off :) ....But I wouldn’t call them stupid because they rather be in poverty than be with a man they do not like. This doesn’t speak very well for a man IMHO that a Puta rejects him??? :o
Hardcore Putas are independent but I really have no affiliation with them & never will. There are many different case by case Latinas that work in & out of HDR. Some can be one timers or last for less than a week trying this. To lump them together as all hardcore is rather naive I feel.

I really feel we are talking apples to oranges here. Many factors involved. There is no one size fits all. No absolutes. I certainly don't feel bad about being successful I earned it :lol: :lol: .

The math is the key or we are just all shooting from the hip.

Personally where I live in the USA I see more per capita stupid people that have very little knowledge of anything but I don't live in Silicon Valley either.

If we have not lived amongst them I feel this is rather wreckless backseat driving at best yet it is interesting :wink: .

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:21 pm 
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Now you can argue that the standard of living is higher in Panama, but it is closer to Costa Rica than it is to the United States. So I would have to say based on anecdotal evidence is possible for a young women without a college education, with a Ch*ld not to have to prostitute herself to make a leaving and be part of the (lower) middle class in Panama.


Well I think that is exactly the point. Panama is a lot cheaper place to live, maybe half the cost of living as Costa Rica, maybe even less than half. Costa Rica is the most expensive place in Central America, by far. Costa Rica is not really a cheap place, yet the wages here remain remarkably low. I don't know how anyone does it in the best of circumstances. You can do okay on $700 a month, but $200 or $300 is ludicrous if you have to pay rent, no matter how many people you share a home with. The only way is if you are not paying rent.

I don't really mean to argue with you. I really don't have an agenda in this discussion. If I could formulate an understanding of how it is possible, knowing what I know about what things cost here, I would be the first to jump on your side in this discussion. I am a realist. Not much room for sentimentality with this hombre.


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I am just curious why this thread died? D seemed to be more than holding his own. Lots of good arguments for and against the virtues or lack thereof of working girls.

One other thing to Casper. ain't no way CR is twice as expensive as Panama. Once again I call BS on your post. :roll: :roll:


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I am just curious why this thread died? D seemed to be more than holding his own. Lots of good arguments for and against the virtues or lack thereof of working girls.

One other thing to Casper. ain't no way CR is twice as expensive as Panama. Once again I call BS on your post. :roll: :roll:


Not sure what made this thread die, but when you say "one again I call BS on your post" it make my bust up laughing. LOL, I think you said the same thing to Casper 4 times!

The topic of this thread was just hashed out in the general forum. Everyone should know, no one has to be a hooker.


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Not sure what made this thread die, but when you say "one again I call BS on your post" it make my bust up laughing. LOL, I think you said the same thing to Casper 4 times!

The topic of this thread was just hashed out in the general forum. Everyone should know, no one has to be a hooker.


Well put!! Hear, Hear, lets put this puppy to bed!! :lol:


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TimBones wrote:

One other thing to Casper. ain't no way CR is twice as expensive as Panama. Once again I call BS on your post. :roll: :roll:


Maybe your call for bull shit is more a reflection of your ignorance than anything else?

Housing costs in Panama ARE approximately double and for anyone that knows anything about how these women live, it is housing costs that are the deal breaker.

I love how these guys who come here 1 or 2 times a year and don't even speak the language think that they are expert on the challenges that face single mothers in a foreign countries. HA HA


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Poor Babi*s... Maybe they should learn how to use a phucking condom and then we wouldn't have to keep hearing this drivel about how they do it all for the bebes... wah wah


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Poor Babi*s... Maybe they should learn how to use a phucking condom and then we wouldn't have to keep hearing this drivel about how they do it all for the bebes... wah wah


It is the Oldest Story Known to Man and the Ugly American:

Throughout history Women abandoned by the fathers of their Ch*ldren and left with no other means of support have turned to prostitution to support their Ch*ldren. ANYONE that knows ANYTHING about history knows that this phenomenon has been going on across the globe for literally thousands of years.

It is just plain ignorant to suggest that this phenomenon is not a significant component to the sex trade in Costa Rica. The combination of arrogance and ignorance that some of you have displayed is as embarrassing as it is laughable.


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And if it is inevitable, what do you say to the vast majority that don't hook for a living? Not judging anyone for hooking. It just irks me this no "they don't have a choice."


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Ageless timeless story "stupid is as stupid does" on both sides of the fence. The sad part is the side effect of "stupid sex" is the offspring that suffers :evil: ... nasty little side effect..... :(

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Phantom - you said it all. You guys who are ragging on the ladies about the way they are trying to make it in this world just need to take a deep breath. ANYONE who lives in a third world country has it a heck of a lot rougher than you will ever know - You cannot possibly HOPE to know since you cannot walk in their shoes. And, of course, the reverse is true as well. My point is to stop the negativity because it can and does go both ways and we should try to keep it elevated, not drag it to the gutter.

Also please remember guys, respect and kindness for another human being does not make you a lesser person - quite the opposite in my view. And if you do not understand that, then perhaps you can just remember to be thankful that these generally decent persons are here for you - you could not enjoy "the life" if not for them. :wink:

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