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I appreciate all the potentates and sages throwing out ideas. This IS the "newbies" section; and a "newbie" to Costa Rica I am, somewhat.

In Amsterdam it is necessary to spell out each and every act you desire. Generally it's agreed to....but if you don't do it....you don't get it. I don't want that to happen once I start actually taking ladies from the Del Rey to my personal lair!

I've learned NOT to pay until everything is over and done with. Thanks.

I learned, at least for New Fantasy, that kissing and DATY were not to happen. Maybe that's because she didn't know me...I don't know and that's why I'm posting here: I don't know really what I can and cannot expect. I will say the sauna and the steam bath at New Fantasy were great!

Back to the Del Rey: Ok....so I am there at 8pm and drinking the overpriced liquor (found Tequilla to be the cheapest....the Scotch prices were pure D dumb). Many ladies were around me and several even speaking. The deal is.....I don't want to leave the place until I want to leave the place: Does this mean I don't talk with the lady until I KNOW I am ready to go? I concur that discussing each and every act is a downer.....but it's what I know from Europe. I DO NOT KNOW the Costa Rica ways. I own this reality. I also own I want to have a fine time and not a 60 second love affair. That would make it less than 8:30pm and then what am I supposed to do? Go spend some more money?!

I understand the "stunners" are plucked and peeled by the high rollers. Heck, I've got the dough....I'm just not spending it. I've NEVER met a woman in well over 60+ years who was worth $200 for all night let alone the $300 I've read about here!!!

I guess I simply have to do as one suggested above and play MY game. What's that? I want to get back to my hotel room; chit chat or share a drink be in liquor or cola; shower perhaps....slowly get things going and just let things keep on going from there. I don't want to have "...ask permission...." for certain "acts".....I just want to do them.....(Remember, for me I have purchased the illusion of a girlfriend/relationship). However, I also do not want anyone hollering "MOLEST!" and next I know POLICIA is on me! Just looking out for number one and that's why I am posting here. Thanks for all the 2¢!!


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The deal is.....I don't want to leave the place until I want to leave the place: Does this mean I don't talk with the lady until I KNOW I am ready to go?

I guess I simply have to do as one suggested above and play MY game. What's that? I want to get back to my hotel room; chit chat or share a drink be in liquor or cola; shower perhaps....slowly get things going and just let things keep on going from there. I don't want to have "...ask permission...." for certain "acts".....I just want to do them.....(Remember, for me I have purchased the illusion of a girlfriend/relationship). However, I also do not want anyone hollering "MOLEST!" and next I know POLICIA is on me! Just looking out for number one and that's why I am posting here. Thanks for all the 2¢!!

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This is the Newbie Section, so feel free to ask anything that's on your mind. :wink:

If you can type the above quote(s) in this forum for us to read, then why can't you verbally say the same thing(s) to a prospective chica?!?!?

If a chica (or a stream of chica's, one after another) comes up to you and asks you if you want company - but you just want to hang out in the bar for a couple hours ? Then just tell her that. If you're honest, and she decides to sit with you anyways, then it's on her! At least you were up-front with her from the beginning, and you owe her nothing. If you decide to buy her a drink, that's your choice. But at least she knows that you're not in any hurry to phuck!

And if you want to take a chica back to your room, and play "YOUR" game with her, just find the right one, and go for it. But again... tell her up-front that you want to chill in your room with her, and be honest. If she's interested, she'll let you know. And if she's not, she'll DEFINITELY let you know. In that situation, just click your heels together 3 times and say ........ NEXT!

These women might be P4P, but they're still human beings. Be honest, be a gentleman, be respectful, make 'em laugh, just let it happen and watch it all un-fold in front of you. (Damn - I need a Colombiana right now)!

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Just the Facts: When the money is in town, like a winter weekend night, the top tier girls don't make a lap before they are gone. Lament the fact that they can get $100 all you want, but you can't get a steak for burger prices in a sellers market. No long lament is going to change that.

The majority of DR/KL girls will go less than cien, some a lot less. On any given night, I wouldn't phuck 70% of the DR trade for free. A lot of the guys are like me, so that means we are all looking for the best of the 30% that remain. Work your best deal, but don't be surprised when she blows you off.


BINGO!We have a winner!!! Now I am agreeing with you... Kcc last week. I need to see a doctor! :lol:

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My opinion, Steven1 (and I too, have been through Amsterdam/the Walletjes/the Pijp...)

I don't think a "laundry list" or choreography is as necessary in C.R. as it is in Holland/Germany/Belgium. I think however that you can still discuss what you want without taxing her time too much.

I like to kiss, and so.... I will ask "Do you enjoy kissing?" but not "Is deep french kissing part of the deal?" If she says yes, I will give her a closed-lip kiss to guage her reaction. I also stress that I want her to be my novia for the evening, have drinks, maybe a little food, some music, candlelight etc. in addition to the sex. I've found that only the hardest of the old hardcores are negative about this. I also explain that the hundred is no problem for me (because *obviously* she is worth it(, but that I need twenty minutes to listen to her, twenty more minutes to taste her, twenty minutes to smell her and at least twenty minutes to touch her...and that's before sex. :lol: Sometimes this line of bull actually works! :lol:

I'm not stingy. However, I'll say something like, "I'm thirsty. I'm getting a beer. Do you want one?" If she tries to pull that Chivas/Grey Goose/Patron shit, I just laugh at her and ask, "Would you rather the Blue Marlin gets the money, or would you rather earn it for yourself?" She'll usually accept a less-expensive beverage.

I've also told girls that I'm hanging out, watching the circus and waiting for friends, but hey...there's an empty seat next to me if she wants to hang out.

Just keeping it casual, friendly and yes, a little romantic may be all the pre-negotiation you need, depending on the girl. Of course, YMWV.

Just keep it clear and friendly. How's your Spanish? :?:

I don't know if all the above helps. As I am blind, my strategy may differ somewhat from yours, but I never fail to recognize the humanity of my potential playmates. :D

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El Ciego,

Thanks, yes that helps with the pointers. My Spanish is passable and I found that very helpful during my first trip in late November. More than once it was noted to me by the lady that I was "...muy simpatico...". However, I simply am not going to go the "cien" route at all costs....even if it means a stunner. Well....cien for perhaps "toda la noche"....but I'm pretty budget minded. I recognize I DO have this problem about overly focusing on the dinero....but that's me be I in the USA, Costa Rica, U.K., or wherever. It's dumb, I know....I'm "working on it....".

What I found most inticing while sitting at the Blue Marlin bar was the overt willingness of the ladies approaching me to touch ....nothing "bawdy"...just the simple touch. I expect it's a "Latin thing". I also note I do have this issue about being in bars and paying for booze when I have better stuff in my own my stock in my room. Just not going to pay for Scotch at a bar like that. And yet, whenever I am at a bar, I must imbibe. Go figure. I found the Cuervo Gold to be the most "cost effective" when I was there.

At issue for me is that I'm a "day guy"....I want to knock one off first thing in the morning...this staying out until 1, 2 and 3am is simply not my idea of a good time. I'm an old guy, after all. I enjoy it, too. However, being the morning guy does make for a challenge. Any suggestions as to where to go other than New Fantasy or some other MP?

I've been thru the phase of seeing how many "hits" I can have in a day. Been there; done that. Now, it's all about quality and this illusion of "realness". Natural lubricant, not the jellies. Is it standard operating procedure for the ladies of the Del Rey and such to seemingly enjoy what's going down? I understand the dinero helps that along....

I spent some 4nights in San Jose the last trip and had two experiences: One at New Fantasy and the other at Muses. I decided today if I purchase the flight for the February 11, 2008 ten day trip which I have set up JUST to "monger" (the first trip was for property viewing up north and central). What to do....what to do....

Thanks for the comments and keep 'em coming guys.....


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Steven1, pardon me if the formatting here is messed up. I will reply to each point of your post:


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Thanks, yes that helps with the pointers. My Spanish is passable and I found that very helpful during my first trip in late November. More than once it was noted to me by the lady that I was "...muy simpatico...". However, I simply am not going to go the "cien" route at all costs....even if it means a stunner. Well....cien for perhaps "toda la noche"....but I'm pretty budget minded. I recognize I DO have this problem about overly focusing on the dinero....but that's me be I in the USA, Costa Rica, U.K., or wherever. It's dumb, I know....I'm "working on it....".



You state (below) that you're a morning guy...so why demand TLN? Being a day guy, you'll probably get better opening offers at the del Rey as it is. I don't think eighty for a couple/few hours would be all that hard to negotiate, particularly if some kind of other activity were included (eating, sipping, gaming, shopping for something *you* want for yourself, etc.).


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What I found most inticing while sitting at the Blue Marlin bar was the overt willingness of the ladies approaching me to touch ....nothing "bawdy"...just the simple touch. I expect it's a "Latin thing". I

Yes, it is a Latina thing. Costa Rican culture is very affectionate in general. Men freely embrace, people call strangers of the opposite sex "mi amor" or "corazon," the two-cheek buss between friends is standard procedure. It's one of the things I most enjoy about interacting with tico friends.


also note I do have this issue about being in bars and paying for booze when I have better stuff in my own my stock in my room. Just not going to pay for Scotch at a bar like that. And yet, whenever I am at a bar, I must imbibe. Go figure. I found the Cuervo Gold to be the most "cost effective" when I was there.

If you really want to sip cheap, try a guaro and Squirt or Fresca. Also, nothing wrong with bottled water between rounds.

Remember that the Costa Rican pace of life is slower (a fact that can be maddening to gringos awaiting a restaurant bill). Your one cocktail gives you squatting rights for at least an hour, particularly if you've tipped the bartender a reasonable gratuity.
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At issue for me is that I'm a "day guy"....I want to knock one off first thing in the morning...this staying out until 1, 2 and 3am is simply not my idea of a good time. I'm an old guy, after all. I enjoy it, too. However, being the morning guy does make for a challenge. Any suggestions as to where to go other than New Fantasy or some other MP?

Girls begin showing up at the Sportsmen's Lodge at around noon, the last I heard. They once were coming in right at breakfast, but I believe the house rules have changed a bit. Nice girls, tranquilo atmosphere for sipping/eating/chatting and seeking ladies.

Don't overlook the MP's. If you're a V.I.P. member, check out RBC100's "Tico Bar and MP List," at the top of the "Bars, Nightclubs and Massage Parlors" section of the forum.


I've been thru the phase of seeing how many "hits" I can have in a day. Been there; done that. Now, it's all about quality and this illusion of "realness". Natural lubricant, not the jellies. Is it standard operating procedure for the ladies of the Del Rey and such to seemingly enjoy what's going down? I understand the dinero helps that along....


It's funny, but I think I've encountered more honest sexual joy from the ladies in C.R. than even with most non-pro encounters I've had here in the States. Lubricant? They prefer the water-based liquid types...but after some initial stimulation, don't be surprised to see her titties blush and her vagina begin self-lubricating. Of course, YMWV depending on your looks, game, sexual skills, health, etc. If you're a good guy who cares about what she's feeling a bit, you'll probably find a convincing GFE.

Just IMHO.

I spent some 4nights in San Jose the last trip and had two experiences: One at New Fantasy and the other at Muses. I decided today if I purchase the flight for the February 11, 2008 ten day trip which I have set up JUST to "monger" (the first trip was for property viewing up north and central). What to do....what to do....

Thanks for the comments and keep 'em coming guys.....


Friend, you'll have a lot of fun. :D Keep it loose, stay in the positive even when things kinda piss you off, embrace pura vida when you're in C.R. and all will be well. Do your homework in the next couple weeks. Join the V.I.P., print out the excellent mongering map in the V.I.P. section, read about the venues. And please feel free to ask questions and make observations. Welcome.

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Thanks for the kind words, El Ciego. I am already a VIP member and fully intend to take full advantage of the discounts. I shall study the map, but I'm a bit in the dark with maps given a "spatial reasoning deficit" which means I can't tell North from South unless the sun is shining!

So many curious questions I have; like: Ok...I agree on, say, a $70 deal from the Del Rey. Does that mean that as SOON as the (my) first climax is complete, the lady gets up, dresses, and leaves? Is it expected that I provide addtl. cab fare (I'll probably be at the Castillo)?

What about going to Del Rey or Sportsman a bit early and having a lady come with me to the Castillo and the Gardens to take advantage of their daily happy hour 2 for 1 drink specials from 5pm to 7pm; buy dinner there and then retreat to the hotel room?

I'm sorry these questions seem so basic to those that live on this board, but the process is quite different than Europe and Amsterdam!

thanks for any and all help.

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Ok...I agree on, say, a $70 deal from the Del Rey. Does that mean that as SOON as the (my) first climax is complete, the lady gets up, dresses, and leaves? Is it expected that I provide addtl. cab fare (I'll probably be at the Castillo)? Yes, this is typical unless you have negotiated otherwise. I had one little sweetie who seemed to be in a hurry to leave after the event, granted we were together in my room for nearly two hours. I introduced her to a couple guys and one of them asked me how she was. While I still had my arm around her, I told him she was great but left too soon after the finish. He took her that night and had a great time. A few nights later I took her again and had to finally ask if she would like to stay or go.

What about going to Del Rey or Sportsman a bit early and having a lady come with me to the Castillo and the Gardens to take advantage of their daily happy hour 2 for 1 drink specials from 5pm to 7pm; buy dinner there and then retreat to the hotel room? All good. Most of the afternoon girls show up around 3:00pm and seem happy to sit and BS with guys. One word of advice, when you decide you are going to take her, let her know and work out any details so she is not sitting there thinking she may be wasting time she could use working someone who is "serious". Most of the afternoon girls will go for considerably less than cien. I start at $60 and bump another $20 for culito or CIM, but that is just me.


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Thanks for the kind words, El Ciego. I am already a VIP member and fully intend to take full advantage of the discounts. I shall study the map, but I'm a bit in the dark with maps given a "spatial reasoning deficit" which means I can't tell North from South unless the sun is shining!
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So many curious questions I have; like: Ok...I agree on, say, a $70 deal from the Del Rey. Does that mean that as SOON as the (my) first climax is complete, the lady gets up, dresses, and leaves? Is it expected that I provide addtl. cab fare (I'll probably be at the Castillo)?


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Depends on the girl. Say she's a Ciego "10," that is, a 7.5 with a wonderful attitude and a willingness to have fun and enjoy time spent. Maybe she'll want to stick around for a cuddle, a chat, a drink, a dance, her favorite telenovella or a second go. :D Some girls will want to split immediately, especially during HDR Prime Working Time (evenings before 1:00 a.m.).

Propina? Maybe... I don't consider cab fare (1,000 colones/$2.06 to be a tip...it's a gentlemanly courtesy.
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What about going to Del Rey or Sportsman a bit early and having a lady come with me to the Castillo and the Gardens to take advantage of their daily happy hour 2 for 1 drink specials from 5pm to 7pm; buy dinner there and then retreat to the hotel room?

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Why not? Hookers have to eat, too...and some of them enjoy a "real" (quote-unquote) date as part of the deal. Talk with her about it before leaving the HDR or SL...or Monkey Bar, or New York Bar or Key Largo.... :D

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I'm sorry these questions seem so basic to those that live on this board, but the process is quite different than Europe and Amsterdam!

thanks for any and all help.

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Hey, I don't live on the board. :P :roll: I just visit very frequently. :oops:

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Thanks all!

Heck a deck.....I flew EC-121 UNARMED in Nam. Didn't require a "wingman" then.....

It looks like I might just need one here.......any takers?! My time is short; my dinero is short; I'm on short rations....and I want the most from this trip!!!!

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Altough this past trip I only pulled 3 from the DR I must have interviewed @ least 18. One of the 3 was stunning in every way imaginable. The best seat in the house is by an entrance, BM bar being the best. You can see every one check in, if something strikes your fancy, jump on it, do not hesitate, if she is top tier she will not last long.
I missed two this past trip just turning my head and talking to my amigo, they were gone before 30 seconds had passed.
Talk to them tell them what you want, negotiate if need be. If there is any doubt let them walk, there are plenty more on the way in or out.
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The best seat in the house is by an entrance, BM bar being the best. You can see every one check in, if something strikes your fancy, jump on it, do not hesitate, if she is top tier she will not last long.
I missed two this past trip just turning my head and talking to my amigo, they were gone before 30 seconds had passed.
Hey get outta my my seat! :wink: I've left amigos mid-sentence when something special wanders in that door. :twisted:

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Steven1 wrote:
"So many curious questions I have; like: Ok...I agree on, say, a $70 deal from the Del Rey. Does that mean that as SOON as the (my) first climax is complete, the lady gets up, dresses, and leaves? Is it expected that I provide addtl. cab fare (I'll probably be at the Castillo)? "

My experience:
it's about negotiation. I always talk time, not how many times. So I tell them. Look I'm kind of horny today and you are really sexy so expect a first load in 5 min, but sorry I want to go for a second time because frankly, I prefer to help myself in the shower before paying any kind of money for 5 min.

And yes, I also use the same strategy/line about drinking. You rather get the money or the BM. never have I known a girl prefer the BM gets the money. They are not that stupid.

I also explain most of the time that I'll treat them like a lady/novia. Take them for a bite, talk, smell, pamper. 'Good time' illusion for both. I bargain hard, but I always explain upfront, they treat me nice, they get repeat business and propina.

in MP, the deal is somewhat cooler, more distant. With BM chicks you take take it more relaxed and control how much you want to spend in time and money, what you want to do what not. Never had to negotiate kissing, but it always came included. They say they love my smile and that I have wonderful teeth. lol

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Remeber there's no such thing as a stupid question; just stupid people who ask questions :P


All kidding aside, I really approach girls in the HDR just as I would a club here on South Beach.

The more spanish you learn, the more comfortable and un-mechanical YOU will seem.


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