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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:17 pm 
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One of my biggest sources of entertainment is watching guys fawning over putas in the DR. They try to be so nice and they sit there and suck up to them. It is pretty humorous all in all.

All the while the putas are looking around the room


Once again agree completely. Man, the few hard core guys in the room are making my life too easy. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:22 am 
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CREIGHTON!!! I just realized your right......1990 chicas are coming of age.

This scares the hell out of me, but makes me horny as hell!!!!!!!!

YeeeeHaaaaa!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:56 am 
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I notice a lot of cynicism here. I wonder if the guys living in Costa Rica are the more cynical ones.

Look I was only looking for some fun at the beach and perhaps a visit to the states. When I come down to CR I spend 2 days max around Del Rey and then want to head out to the beaches. The chica I found was a fun companion and the relationship if you'd call it that lasted a year. And yes I did shell out bucks both from the states and in CR and don't regret it. I can easily aford it and hell you can't take it with you so why not. And to anticipate your comments yes I have an active social life in the states with older women but the getaway is refreshing.

Now to respond to comments :

Gypsy - No point especially just exchanging experiences. Isn't that what this is all about.

Thirdworld : I'm a sucker ?? How. I gladly gave her money for enjoyment which included not just sex and that's what I got. I gave knowly and of my own free will without deception or trickery.

I can't stay : My ex was Norwegian my dauighter was born here so is Norwegian-American. The money I was sending wasn't the main issue it was the inapproriateness of it all which she found shocking and potentially very embarrassing. She would go bonkers everytime I showed her a photo.


Kccost : Who needs your cynical guess as to what she says behind my back. Pure paranoia !! They're not alll the same. I was in control. I made all the plans and called all the shots. Helping a woman out does not imply softness. Also you needn't explain Latin culture to me because I lived in Honduras for 2 years.

Pacifica - You are the most cynical of the bunch. According to your logic anyone who helps another for whatever reason and wherever is in it for his own ego. That means that generous grongos like myself are really the selfish ones while stingy bastards like you are altruistic ?? I just don't buy it.

Count Dante - Good for you but you left out the sequel to your fantasy. When the gringo returns from the states you get cast aside like an ordinary houseboy.

This has been fun. I'll be down March 8th and maybe run into some of you. My favorite place is the Key largo.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:24 am 
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.....Count Dante - Good for you but you left out the sequel to your fantasy. When the gringo returns from the states you get cast aside like an ordinary houseboy....


Since what I wrote about actually happened, I don't see how it can be termed a "fantasy". Perhaps that sequel is something you are fantisizing about.

Truth be told, if one those magical gringos had shown up, I would have happily stepped aside and let her hustle him for more cash. I'm not going to get in the way of her making some extra money. It is, after all, HER JOB. I wasn't planning on financially supporting her, so who am I to tell her not to take this guy's money? Besides, as soon as he is gone (or maybe while he just stepped out for a few hours) I would have been back to phucking her again.:twisted: To this day I have no idea why she never charged me and latched on the way she did. It happened and I enjoyed the experience, the gifts, and the memories. I still have some of the CD's she bought me and enjoy listening to them (she had really good taste in music).

One thing I see among SOME mongers (and also a lot of guys who aren't mongers) is that these guys tend to believe (conciously or unconciously) that if they give their hooker/stripper/novia enough money for no reason, eventually she'll fall in love with them. It is as if there is an equation in their head that goes
"she want's my money=she needs my money=she needs me=she loves me".

In some ways, I think these types want to get the girl addicted to the money they give them, thus giving the guy control. What woman would DARE "cheat" on you or leave you if you are paying her rent and her son's school tuition. It becomes some power trip where (they hope) the girl becomes so dependant on them for her very existance that these guys have absolute control. I guess Pacifica55's slavery analogy was a lot more accurate than I thought.

But it almost NEVER happens the way these guys think (or hope). Why? Because, perhaps more than other women, these women know how to get their own money. They know that the same pu*sy you were so happy to pay for is pu*sy some guy at the del rey or beatle bar or key largo will pay for. While they will try to get as much money from you as possible, and they might cut back on the hooking if you are especially generous, they know that if you stop sending money they can get it for themselves. To be honest, guys are better off playing that sugar daddy game with some non-pro gringa who doesn't quite know the true power and value of whats between her legs.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:03 am 
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Theyre not all the same.... she doesn't laugh behind my back... I'm not a sucker..... hmm looks like some reality is needed. Of course my girl is different.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:50 am 
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Kccost : Who needs your cynical guess as to what she says behind my back. Pure paranoia !! They're not alll the same. I was in control. I made all the plans and called all the shots. Helping a woman out does not imply softness. Also you needn't explain Latin culture to me because I lived in Honduras for 2 years.



Brother, I am not cynical. In every industry there are SOP, standard operating procedures. You have to understand that these women train and coach each other, ESPECIALLY the ones that work in DR. There is a culture among them and they talk and compare notes constantly. It is what they do. Watch next time you are there. They are ALL talking shop ALL of the time, just like you do at your job.

Do you think it is a coincidence that they ALL ask the exact same questions? Are you on vacation? What hotel are you staying? They want to know if you are a local (locals do not spend $100 p/hour, vacationers throw their money away) and they want to gage how much money you have and how far they have to travel to get there.

The reality is, in their industry, guys that send money are the big prize. It is what the academy award is to an actor, it is what catching a 1000 lb marlin is to a fisherman. You can choose to remain blind to this reality, but it does not change the reality. It is what it is. You are the most highly prized cleint in their industry. But make no mistake, you are a client, not a novio.

I am not saying that they are all the same. I have met some nice chicas at the DR. Part of what works for me, that allows me to get close to them, is that I let them know that I know what the game is and what the SOPs are. Once they know that you know what the SOPs are, they look at you in a different light and new doors open up.

I promise you, if you are acting in a manner in which you are precieved to be blind to the SOP of THEIR industry, you are going to be treated entirely different than the guys that know the game.

I promise you, I am not cynical. Read over my posts and you will see that I am one of the biggest advocates for treating these women with respect. I enjoy their company, I have a Colombiana that I am spending a lot of time with that I do not pay a dime to. I have others that treat me fantastic.

The number 1 thing that I do to get me in these positions to be close to these women, the first thing that I do, is convince them that I am not a "Typical Stupid Gringo". The common perception among DR women is that Gringos are stupid. This is what they spend their time talking about. That and how to get over on them. It is a constant topic of conversation among these women. Make no mistake about it.

I didn't say that you were soft for helping out your chica. What I said was that among Latins, that is considered soft. It is a whole different culture here. Things that you do that you consider generous, are preceived completely different in Latin culture. What I am trying to explain to you is that when you come to a foreign country, to a certain degree you need to leave your preconceived notions behind. It is not cynical to have an understanding of the fact that Latinas respect strength. They are wired completely different than Gringas. As hard as it is to understand, most of these women are more attracted to Latinos that treat them like shit than they are to Gringos that put them on a pedistal. I sure as hell don't understand that, I am just telling you that is how it is. I was not putting you down (or your girl), I was just trying to give you some insight into a whole different perspective that these women have that you are probably not going to figure out on your own by spending 2 nights at the Rey and then heading to the beach once or twice a year.

Good luck to you brother. We are all entitled to our fantasies. I have MINE!!! This is fantasyland after all. As long as you feel good about what you are doing that is all that matters. I am just trying to help you out. Best!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:52 pm 
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"Part of what works for me, that allows me to get close to them, is that I let them know that I know what the game is and what the SOPs are. "

Put a sticky on this one.


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well....if she doesn't need the KY when she's with me....I don't care what's she's doing when I'm not around....

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Here's an actual email letter letting me know the price....as if!!! $500.00 per week!!! what a hoot!

hola amor espero que estes bien si me puedes decir si me puedes regalar el televiso pantalla plana para crismas de hija mia , me gustaria visitar y quedarme alli contigo por siempre , te digo algo cada semana requiero de 500 dolares por semana si deseas enviarme muchas gracias por tu ayuda , no eres hombre viejo eres guapo y atractivo te lo digo de todo corazon , yo soy mujer fiel y honesta para toda una vida espero que me llames tu ya que sale muy caras las llamadas mi telefono en costa rica es xxxx y en colombia es xxxxxx este es de mi mama ya que yo vivo con ella en colombia medellin y mi direccion es callae xx a numero xx medellin colombia barrio buenos aires ok espero tu llamada pronto no estoy trabajando en la noche solo en el dia y esto esta muy pesado y yo me siento muy aburrida y deprimida el estrres me esta matando amor espero que me pienses bastante ok
att
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Here's another for a Christmas gift request:

amor quiero un televisor plassma para angie para navidad si es posible me llamas o me escribes , dime realmente si quieres que yo siga en el rey trabajando o si tu me puedes brindar tu apoyo economico.
te extraño mucho


Um, the Ch*ld in question is 2!

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Steven1 looks like your the one that is going to need the KY on this one :lol: :lol: :lol: !!

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um....no money was sent.....excuse me

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Zippy, I would recomend buying stock in KY if Wayneh does not wake up. I know I used a lot when I was getting the exact same letter that Steven posted (really almost the same word for word) from my ex wife (before we married and she was still in Colombia.

Hell these chicas work together to work out the wording to get the max return. And not just the putas, but all of them in latin countries, AND I LOVE LATINAS AND THE LATIN CULTURE! And I am not being cynical; I am just stating a fact. Latinas getting money out of a "rich gringo" is a major acomplishment and a point of pride for many latinas. I t is seen as a statis symbol amd others are very envious.

I have worked with Latinas for 25 years, Have been married to a latina, Have dated nothing but Latinas for 15 years, and I speak spanish. The comments I am making are not hearsay, conjector, rummer, nor just my opinions. The are exactly what I have overheard chicas saying, what Latinos have said to me, what my ex novia and her friends did and said in front of me.

KC, everything you said in your last post is exactly true and accurate. And Wayneh IT IS YOUR MONEY AND YOUR CHIOSE as to sending money. I and the others you think are being cynical are just trying to make you aware of the facts. If it make you happy, do it, just remember that no matter what she says, it is first and foremost just a way of making money to her. good luck!!! Hell I looked at it afterwards as donating to a charity--she was poor and needy!

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Steven1 wrote:
Here's an actual email letter letting me know the price....as if!!! $500.00 per week!!! what a hoot!

hola amor espero que estes bien si me puedes decir si me puedes regalar el televiso pantalla plana para crismas de hija mia , me gustaria visitar y quedarme alli contigo por siempre , te digo algo cada semana requiero de 500 dolares por semana si deseas enviarme muchas gracias por tu ayuda , no eres hombre viejo eres guapo y atractivo te lo digo de todo corazon , yo soy mujer fiel y honesta para toda una vida espero que me llames tu ya que sale muy caras las llamadas mi telefono en costa rica es xxxx y en colombia es xxxxxx este es de mi mama ya que yo vivo con ella en colombia medellin y mi direccion es callae xx a numero xx medellin colombia barrio buenos aires ok espero tu llamada pronto no estoy trabajando en la noche solo en el dia y esto esta muy pesado y yo me siento muy aburrida y deprimida el estrres me esta matando amor espero que me pienses bastante ok
att
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Here's another for a Christmas gift request:

amor quiero un televisor plassma para angie para navidad si es posible me llamas o me escribes , dime realmente si quieres que yo siga en el rey trabajando o si tu me puedes brindar tu apoyo economico.
te extraño mucho


Um, the Ch*ld in question is 2!



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The same thing happens every time. The chica will eventually “kill the goose that is laying the golden egg,” Wayne in this case, Patriot & Rolltide and a dozen more in other cases. The story remains the same, the players just play musical chair. Wayne seems at least not to be deluded about the whole situation.

I get a kick out of it when one of these "let me take care of her Romeos", the totally deluded player, swallows all she is dishing hook, line and sinker. This is followed by numerous mongers trying to talk sense to the “mark”. The “mark” on cue, blows off all the advice and proceeds to lose several or tens of thousands of dollars. He eventually catches her in a lie, or she cheats or robs him and the new player joins the mix.

The chicas, if she is hot, is already in one of the top earning class in the CR economy!

I personally object to Gringos become thus involved because it makes all Gringos look like patsies and fools.
Chicas see us as a mark, something to be lied to and manipulated. So, there is that. But, by all means, keep sending money if it makes you feel good,; heck send some to me if you want, MY TV set is not a flat panel model and I could sure use one.


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