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The vast, vast majority of single mom's in Costa Rica live in extended family environments. That is HOW they do it. When you walk though a Tico community you will typically see multiple dwellings crammed onto a single lot to accommodate these extended families. This is pretty much typical of the Costa Rican lifestyle and these extended families are the norm.

It is the women that have a break down in their families that are at risk and have few options. Your example does not address the single mom that is supporting their entire household. Many times this is the result of incest within the family, which is a big problem in Costa Rica. I would say that a VERY high percentage of single mom's that are supporting a household entirely on their own are at the very minimum semi-pros.

On the other side of the coin, you will almost NEVER find a single male living by himself. It is simply unaffordable and they do not have Babi*s to support.

Kc, I agree with your post. I would point out that many of the single males referred to above probably have a Ch*ld or two that they don't support. Among the lower classes at least, a father is nothing more than the guy who got Mami pregnant.

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I've actually talked to several (non-pro) ticas about this and while the majority live with their families, those that don't tend to live with one or two other ticas and split the rent and utilities. It is not that difficult for them to find another tica in similar circumstances who they can share a place with. Sometimes its a tica that just wants to get out of her families house. As far as babysitting, many of them will share babysitting responsibilities with their roomate or other single moms in the neighborhood.

Keep in mind, that living in your own place with just your K*ds AND being able to afford to hire a babysitter to look after them are "luxuries" that most uneducated women in CR are not going to get. This doesn't mean that they can't survive on those wages, just that their standard of living may not be what it is if they sold their ass.

Also remember this, the MAJORITY of putas in the greater SJ area are NOT servicing gringos primarily. They are banging Ticos. So the amount of money she can make isn't as high as many expect. My bet is they are probably getting $5-$20 a pop with these guys.

I will admit that would seem like a viable option. But it is not something that I have seen much of. You get 2 or 3 women with 2 or 3 K*ds each, especially if they are older K*ds.

Good post.

Counte Dante and KC:

You guys are right on about the typical living conditions here, especially single mothers. 15 the Septembre in Hatillo where my ex novia lives is a prime example. Virtually every housewhole consists of Mother and father, their K*ds including 1 or 2(sometimes more)single daughters with K*ds. And sometimes even nices and their K*ds. I really think every chica in the area from 14 to around 35 works at least part time as a puta. Have met most and never met one that didn't. Met several that have 2 sources of income; puta and ventadora de drugas.

Incest--Yep, there are several chicas living with half brothers and sleeping with them; now including my ex novia!! Brother pays the rent-she buys the groceries

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My post was not meant to address all possibilities, only to point out to you specifically that there are lots of alternatives to selling your ass in the DR or wherever. To me, it is self serving rationalization to state that “these girls have no choice but to sell their bodies as there is simply no other viable alternatives”

Well, I gave you just one that covers over one thousand females. In the various business trips I made to Latin America and in the 2 years I lived in Panama, plus the various 6 month TDY trips to Salvador CR and Honduras I met lots of dirt poor, but moral women that would absolutely never sell their ass to pay the rent. They all worked at honest jobs like secretaries, bartenders, hairdressers, maids, garment workers, lawyers, business owners, military spouses, embassy workers, just to name a few categories I could think of off-hand. Some had husbands and K*ds, some did not.

To address the family issue: If they don't have an extended family to turn to in a Latin country it means that either a) they have estranged themselves from their family or B ) The family commited mass suicide; which is highly doubtful.

If they are supporting their extended family thru working as a hooker, there is something very wrong somewhere.

To put a fine point on my opinion, I think it was Cheech Marin that said it best when he said: “Responsibility is a heavy responsibility, …….man”

Of course this is just my opinion......

There are always different ways to struggle thru this life but lets face it most of us take the path of least resistance. Yhats why we puck them easy putas isn't it??? It is rather a no brainer for a Chica that has already fuccked up her life by fuccking around with a guy tends to look down and see that her pu$$y has limit years to be preductive. Hell no one else is going to help & this is a way she can get what she needs & doesn't have to put up with men but for an hour or to here or there.

I certainlly don't blame them .

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Self-Serving Rationalizations? Are you kidding me? Nothing could be further from the truth. I have ZERO agenda in this discussion.

This is a simple case where I know what it cost to maintain a lifestyle that approximates middle class in Costa Rica and I know what the wages are and for the life of me, I can not get them to add up.

To qualify myself, I do not live in Escazu or Santa Ana. To the contrary I live in a 30-year-old regular Tico house in a regular Tico community on the very fringe of the central valley about 50 minutes from down town San Jose. This is an inexpensive place to live. My local restaurant chares $2 for a chicken fajita dinner and $1 for an Imperial. Unlike most of the rest of you, I know first hand what a Tico lifestyle costs.

Realistically to maintain something approximating a middleclass Tico household for 3 moms and 5 K*ds, rent and utilities is going to be $500 too $900. You figure $150 per adult living expenses and $100 per Ch*ld. This is just getting by.

Household $700
3 Adults $450
5 Ch*ldren $500

Total $1650

This would be just scrapping by. 8 People in a 3 or 4 bedroom house.

Now lets look at jobs, some are guestimates, some I know.

$1000 p/month Best Job, hard to get - Phone Room- Bi-Lingual /College educated
$800 p/month Administrator
$600 p/month Computer Programmer
$400 p/month Good Job - Bi-Lingual, College Educated Office Admin Assistant or Large Hotel reservationist with computer skills
$300 p/month Teacher, Airline Ticket counter, Bi-Lingual Tour Guide.
$200 p/month Basic Education, Store clerk, ect.

The bottom line is that is you can have 3 single mom families with GOOD jobs crammed into a 3 or 4 bedroom house; maybe they can do it barely eking by in something at the lower end of the middle class. I don't see how 2 moms could do unless they were both professionals. I don’t care how many uneducated single moms you cram into a household, there is just no way. The rents alone exceed their earning power.

If anyone can show me where my estimates are off, please do enlighten me. Like I said I have no agenda. This is all about the math as far as I am concerned.



C) Incest is a huge problem in Costa Rica. Just as in US, a high percentage of sex workers in Costa Rica are incest victims. I was told by one of the ZB girls that nearly all of them got it from a brother, half brother, a step father or in a few cases fathers. It sort of makes sense when you think about how much pipe they take everyday.

I think there is a class/education/income factor. Those that are in the poorly educated, sub $300 a month category have high likelyhood.

I do know that there are doctors and lawyers that work on the side, but for the most part, if they are making a living wage and are well educated, I think the percentages are much, much lower.

I have to agree with KC here, the putas come primarily from the lower classes, though not exclusively. This is also why an upper class Tica is little different from a Gringa. Unless the girl is far above average looking she's not likely to make a lot of money as a hooker, though more than as a store clerk. Middle class and above girls are not nearly as interested in us Gringos, I have found. And why should they be? Other than my wonderful personality, what I really have to offer is finance.

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Ditto What he said.
Exactly what I have seen. Well put Kcosta
Except one thing I have seen houses for rent for 250 per month that are not that bad... which is a little lower but everything food costs and wages is spot on including the incest its out of control in CR

Actually my ex novia lives in a 3 bedroom place that rents for c60000 per month plus electric and water which run about c25000. Most of her friends from the REY/KL live in very simular places. That is less than $175 per month. Know 2 Colombianas (no K*ds here) that share a place close to me for $300 a month and that includes utilities.

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Agree agree agree!

I still have yet to get anyone to tell me how ugly chicas get by? Ugly and sometimes fat too - how do they get by? They can't be hookers, that is for sure, so what are they doing?

As soon as someone tells me what the uglies are doing then I'll tell you what the pretties are doing to get by without selling ass. It is easy to tell actually, they are doing the same thing, you name it, both are doing it. Whatever it is that the uglies are doing works just as well for the pretties.

Just because we can't figure out how they make ends meet without selling ass doesn't mean they aren't doing it - the vast majority are making it without selling any pu*sy.

Furthermore Costa Rica is bigger than San Jose, it isn't like the whole country is just one gigantic brothel. The chicas inside SJ are making it just like the chicas outside the city.

I get your point, although you seem to have a relatively emotional attachment to the subject matter.

Perhaps I can explain my viewpoint by talking about people I met when I was working in CR.

My friend's dad lived in a modest little house in San Jose and he took us to drink beer at a roadside bar that was more like a shack. I doubt beer was even fifty cents. His son, my buddy, got to the states and took the best deal going; he joined the army, became a CID agent, retired after 20 or so years and opened his own private detective agency (No relation to anyone we all know). His brother Paco, started a vehicle import business where he would go to the States and export cars of 5 years and older, as, at least at the time, there was less of a sales tax if the car was 5 years old. He also started some side businesses. He lived in what I would consider to be a middle class house out by Sabana Grande. He was also planning on building a larger house. The one word that comes to mind when I think of Paco is "hustler" They came from very modest backgrounds, but managed to find a way to a better life.

The same goes for the guy that built CIMER. He arrived to CR near penniless from Lebanon and built an world class textile industry. Or one of the largest landowners on the Penisula de Osa; Santiago Ovares. I would again use the same term for both of these gentlemen.

I know at least a dozen other stories about poor individuals that made their fortunes in CR, just like folks in the U.S.

Is it harder in C.R? I am sure it is. They have less of everything, with the possible exception of stupid anti-business laws(but I could be wrong there)

We take a lot for granted in the U.S. However, cream always manages to rise to the top and a lot of these women that involve themselves in prositution usually have made a series of bad decisions, and that is just the latest one. I am not without sympathy, but when you systematically have Ch*ldren that you cannot support, who should bear the responsibility of raising these Ch*ldren in a middle calss environment? In the United States, apparently, the governement or Nanny state has taken over that role, but in CR, they just don't have the money to do so.

I hope that clarifies my view of the matter.

One other point is to note the wealth effect of all that land..... that cost the Ticos nothing. Many familys own alot of land and have sold the land at high prices with an almost zero cost basis they do spread this wealth through out the family and at the very least they help out family relatives in need once they cash out on their land. And I have seen many tico families stick 8 people in a 3 bedroom...not uncommon at all.